Personally, I'm really tired of the "twisting tower" fad. Once you get past the "wow" factor, very few of them actually look good.
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^ I'd agree in most cases, BUT I believe this one is fitting as this tower is designed to resemble a strand of DNA, and St. Louis is a premiere BioTech center.
I'm thinking the design would appeal to the BioTech business innovators, and Medical professionals who it would be marketed to. I'd prefer it to make a full 180 degree turn but that would require 40+ stories which i doubt will happen with this footprint.
I'm thinking the design would appeal to the BioTech business innovators, and Medical professionals who it would be marketed to. I'd prefer it to make a full 180 degree turn but that would require 40+ stories which i doubt will happen with this footprint.
Although I don't mind a twisted or wavy tower, as long as it is a green (or eco) tower that would be great. In addition, I doubt very seriously if any new building would challenge Chase Park-Plaza's or Park East's height.
Here's a rendering for the Green Light Tower in Greece. I don't know if it has been built.
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Here's a rendering for the Green Light Tower in Greece. I don't know if it has been built.
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It better challenge their height. St. Louis deserves another 500 footer.
I was kinda digging around looking for info on this project and ran into this old St. Louis Magazine article. I don't know if it portends anything at all for this project or not, but I thought the quote (with the important qualifier that it was pre-recession) at the end was intriguing...
-RBBWith his namesake’s masterpiece towering above, Sam can’t help walking around the corner and down York, past the Chase Apartments—his next project—to the corner of Lindell and Kingshighway. Phase II will be the development of this stretch of real estate.
And Phase III?
Sam points across the bustling street to a parking lot his family never sold.
“That’s my goal. I’m going to build the tallest building in the Midwest right there,” he says. “I’m going to hire the best architect of our generation.”
He can see it already.
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Love the dream, but taller than the sears tower...? Maybe my sckeptisism is a sign of old age... 
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^^ Is it okay to post (skyscraper) porn for Gateway City on here?
looks like Chicago's tallest all-residential tower is The Legacy at Millennium Park topping out at 822' and 72 stories; The Trump International Hotel and Tower is 1,389' and 98 stories.... it was being built when Koplar made the statement, so I'll take him at his word that this will be 100 stories!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ta ... in_Chicago
btw, looks like Chicago has had 9 towers over 600' open in the last 5 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ta ... in_Chicago
btw, looks like Chicago has had 9 towers over 600' open in the last 5 years.
Yeah, I doubt we're getting a 1500' tower there too. Still, I love the ostentation. I'm hopeful that will mean we'll at least see something of 30+ stories there and/or a design that stands out; seems they're (or at least were) dreaming big. There's precious little of that 'round these parts these days.STLEnginerd wrote:Love the dream, but taller than the sears tower...? Maybe my sckeptisism is a sign of old age...
-RBB
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We at least need to hold the record for tallest residential tower in Missouri.... that means getting to 500' as KC's conversion of the Power & Light Buildings is moving forward.
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Realistically, I would probably expect two towers in the 20-story range or one tower in the 30-story range.
My apartment view is of the Kingshighway skyline. I've been looking at that view every day since 1997. Compositionally, the site calls for either low and massive or tall and slender. Next door to the Park Plaza (which is both tall and massive), you have to choose either the massive or the tall. Otherwise, two tall massive buildings next to each other will look dumb. Obviously, I'd prefer one $2 million condo per floor for 75 floors... but I'm not counting on it.
My apartment view is of the Kingshighway skyline. I've been looking at that view every day since 1997. Compositionally, the site calls for either low and massive or tall and slender. Next door to the Park Plaza (which is both tall and massive), you have to choose either the massive or the tall. Otherwise, two tall massive buildings next to each other will look dumb. Obviously, I'd prefer one $2 million condo per floor for 75 floors... but I'm not counting on it.
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^ I'd be fine with 30 stories but would be disappointed if it were not as high as Park Plaza and Park East towers. If we could do only one super-tall, though, my pick actually would be in a new 22nd Street district and not CWE. Sorry, GC!
Anything 30+ would be pretty awesome considering a 30+ residential building has never been built in St. Louis. The Plaza in Clayton is the tallest in the region at an even 30 floors.
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Montgomery Tower will be 32, but that's too bad it's going to Clayton instead of the City.wabash wrote:Anything 30+ would be pretty awesome considering a 30+ residential building has never been built in St. Louis. The Plaza in Clayton is the tallest in the region at an even 30 floors.
Nothing wrong with Clayton except that strengthening it rather than strengthening the city limits the long-term overall impact it can have on the region.moorlander wrote:I like Clayton.
A strong core helps everything.
But Clayton's great and getting better. That in and of itself is totally fine.
I'd love to see something like the "Jenga Tower" in New York; sort of a deconstructivist version of the Chase's wedding cake style:
http://56leonardtribeca.com/wp-content/ ... eonard.jpg
http://56leonardtribeca.com/wp-content/ ... eonard.jpg
That'd be cool. But that cantilevered construction doesn't come cheap. Each differentiated floor takes a lot more time to build than uniform ones. That building, 57 Leonard, is one of the top 5 most expensive buildings in NYC.
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Clayco and Forum studio picked as the general contractor and design firm, per NextSTL.
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^ Nice to see this making progress! Maybe we'll get to see a rendering in the next year or two. Looking at the reported $100 million or so project scope, though, I doubt we'll get the 500 or 600' story tower that Gateway City wants to see.
My guess is that the younger Kopler will push for something at least at tall as the Park Plaza. Let's hope they can pull it off.
Forum is the local architect - KPF is the design architect - This has good potentialchaifetz10 wrote:Clayco and Forum studio picked as the general contractor and design firm, per NextSTL.
My guess is between 30-35 stories - slightly taller than Park Plaza