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PostAug 26, 2025#676

Some light reading I found about the developer...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/business/trump-organization-scion-hotel-deal.html

https://archive.is/r3rgT#selection-1603.0-1603.96

Ignore the janky formatting on the links!

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PostAug 28, 2025#677

At the ULI downtown developers panel today, Mike said hotel and residences will open in about 2 months.

(Panel was Mike, Mike LaMartina/BPV, Goldman/ATT, Bob/Union Station, Oliver/Wash Ave, and Brian Pratt/AHM)

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PostSep 04, 2025#678

Post-Dispatch article on the Syndicate Building says the Jefferson Arms hotel and apartment will open in October.

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PostSep 04, 2025#679

Auggie wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
Post-Dispatch article on the Syndicate Building says the Jefferson Arms hotel and apartment will open in October.
The hotel is now live on the Marriott site.

https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/s ... /overview/

The notation on the list says "Opening Soon Nov 2025" but the site doesn't let you book until December.


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PostSep 04, 2025#680

dylank wrote:
Aug 14, 2025
Downtown Chicago has something like 17% for hotels. I don't know why this is such a wowzer. Alterra is trying to bring 5+ retail businesses together in one building downtown. Approve it. 

Hello

Retail lineup is more than 5+. We are self managing those. That is correct.

PostSep 04, 2025#681

Elek.borrelli wrote:
Aug 05, 2025
The unit layouts are also incomparable. The deep floorplates of the Victor, being a former factory conversion, are not well suited for residential, thus a majority of the units have bedrooms without windows.  While this is up to code courtesy of modern fresh air mechanical systems, this is far from appealing from a livability/ marketing standpoint. This is most likely another reason why it has struggled leasing. The above Jefferson Arms floorplans are efficient, feature unique architectural characteristics such as the bay windows, as well as high end finishes. The only issue that they might face is the lack of a pool. Besides this, I don't foresee it having any issues with lease up.

P.S. I work for a real estate developer where we target $4.50 / SF for one bedroom units. 

Thank you for the encouragement. Much appreciated.

PostSep 04, 2025#682

Auggie wrote:
Aug 14, 2025
Are these for sure though? Like 100% there will be 5+ businesses in this building or is that just how much space there will be?
Hi

There will be total of about 9 retail / rest bars spots.

PostSep 04, 2025#683

MattnSTL wrote:
Aug 14, 2025
It seems like Alterra will be running these businesses themselves, so it seems like a for sure thing they at least open. Anyone's guess at success after that, but I would certainly hope they stay in operation.
Hello Matt

We are partnering with few locals in operations and we will operate few ourselves. Announcement will be coming soon.

PostSep 04, 2025#684

STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 21, 2025
The building is a long way from being completed.  I don't see how they could possibly move people in this year.  The place is quite the disaster and construction seems to be stalled.  
I am taking a wager :)) will be open late October early November. Issued TCOs

PostSep 04, 2025#685

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 21, 2025
My guess is spring 2026.
The hotel would generally be taking booking 3 months out before opening.
Reservation open for Dec 21. Turn over to hotel operations is end of October early November. Crossing my fingers.

PostSep 04, 2025#686

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
Jeff Arms building Instagram account inactive since July 15.

The Jeff arms residences account inactive since August 8

Hello

We have several assets and choose to advertise and boost reels a lot across Instagram and Facebook.

You might have missed the boosts.
IMG_3321.jpeg (197.22KiB)

PostSep 04, 2025#687

STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
Jeff Arms building Instagram account inactive since July 15.

The Jeff arms residences account inactive since August 8
From what I’ve heard, a lot of the sub contractors have walked off the job.

You might have been misinformed. On the contrary subs putting more manpower on the job & working overtime. Especially Electrical and Mechanical are doing miracle work.

PostSep 04, 2025#688

STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
I would be suprised if it was substantially completed in the next 9-12 months.
Taking a wager:))

PostSep 04, 2025#689

STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
KMOV just reported on this, said it's 'coming online in late Fall'...
Take a tour.  You can schedule showings for the apartments.  It’s a complete mess.  I don’t see how the City Of St Louis could issue occupancy.  I hope I am wrong for it’s a big project for downtown.
Be the end of September you will see a big improvements. I hope we can have you tour again.

PostSep 04, 2025#690

pdm_ad wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
^ Not disputing, just passing along.
Thank you for your insight. That is the date we are shooting for at the moment.

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PostSep 04, 2025#691

AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
I would be suprised if it was substantially completed in the next 9-12 months.
Taking a wager:))
I will take that wager.  The wager being substantial completion of the entire building 9 months from my post ?  

PostSep 04, 2025#692

AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
Jeff Arms building Instagram account inactive since July 15.

The Jeff arms residences account inactive since August 8
From what I’ve heard, a lot of the sub contractors have walked off the job.

You might have been misinformed. On the contrary subs putting more manpower on the job & working overtime. Especially Electrical and Mechanical are doing miracle work.
It was your emplyees and subs who told me that.  

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PostSep 04, 2025#693

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 26, 2025
Spoke with one of the workers on site, he said January 2026 construction finish
Rezi & hotel should be open late fall 2025. Though retail construction would take longer to complete albeit at a much smaller crew size.

PostSep 05, 2025#694

STLAPTS wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Aug 22, 2025
I would be suprised if it was substantially completed in the next 9-12 months.
Taking a wager:))
I will take that wager.  The wager being substantial completion of the entire building 9 months from my post ?  
You can private message me for the wager.

Thanks.

PostSep 05, 2025#695

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Aug 28, 2025
At the ULI downtown developers panel today, Mike said hotel and residences will open in about 2 months.

Late October early November as it stands now.

(Panel was Mike, Mike LaMartina/BPV, Goldman/ATT, Bob/Union Station, Oliver/Wash Ave, and Brian Pratt/AHM)

PostSep 05, 2025#696

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Aug 26, 2025
I applaud that this project is getting done in a way we all hoped it would.  However, the lengthy financing period (when things were "good") and the current situation would give me pause that this firm can handle the Muni Courts building and adjacent lot development.  

Time will tell, and looking forward to the finish.  I can imagine this will open in phases, residential - amenities - commercial. 

Working on Late October early November 2025 for the rezi and hotel. Retail to follow.

PostSep 05, 2025#697

dweebe wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
Auggie wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
Post-Dispatch article on the Syndicate Building says the Jefferson Arms hotel and apartment will open in October.
The hotel is now live on the Marriott site.

https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/s ... /overview/

The notation on the list says "Opening Soon Nov 2025" but the site doesn't let you book until December.

This is correct. The reservation date might slide back and forth depending how fast the management team can bring the ops on line.

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PostSep 05, 2025#698

AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 05, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 04, 2025

Taking a wager:))
I will take that wager.  The wager being substantial completion of the entire building 9 months from my post ?  
You can private message me for the wager.

Thanks.
You suggested it on a public forum.  Let's keep it that way. If you'd like, we can make it a friendly wager.  Let us know what you were thinking. 

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PostSep 05, 2025#699

STLAPTS wrote:
Sep 05, 2025
AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 05, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Sep 04, 2025
I will take that wager.  The wager being substantial completion of the entire building 9 months from my post ?  
You can private message me for the wager.

Thanks.
You suggested it on a public forum.  Let's keep it that way. If you'd like, we can make it a friendly wager.  Let us know what you were thinking. 
Perfect. A donation of $100 to other’s favorite charity in case of a loss.

Mine is unicef.org.

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PostSep 05, 2025#700

AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 05, 2025
STLAPTS wrote:
Sep 05, 2025
AlterraMike wrote:
Sep 05, 2025

You can private message me for the wager.

Thanks.
You suggested it on a public forum.  Let's keep it that way. If you'd like, we can make it a friendly wager.  Let us know what you were thinking. 
Perfect. A donation of $100 to other’s favorite charity in case of a loss.

Mine is unicef.org.
Friendlier than expected but let's book it.  You can donate to the Urban League of Metropolitan St. Louis

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