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Trololzilla wrote:Moving fast, apparently - driving past on Park this past Sunday there were some lots already cordoned off with construction tape and excavated for what I assume is foundation work.

I know that the Habitat for Humanity homes are already under construction. It’s most likely those. The most recent homes to be announced won’t start for a few more months.

Garages! Alleys!  

Looks pretty good on Streetview nonetheless

Nice to see two of the five Habitat for Humanity homes being built along Park Avenue in the Gate District. Setbacks are reasonable. Let's hope they end up looking as good as the ones recently completed in the Tiffany Neighborhood. Nice to see the affordable homes breaking ground first in a large project. This all bodes well for St. Louis Midtown Redevelopment Corp. https://www.slu.edu/news/2020/february/gate-district-west-housing-developers.php

Building permits submitted for 4 new homes on 2700 Hickory by 

GLADIATOR HOMES LLC

Anyone have a rednering?

They are asking $385K for those Dogtown homes. There is A LOT of vacant land on Hickory Street in the Gate District, good to see some lots return to residential.

The porch looks good, but the double peak and off-center second-story window is bothersome.

The Gladiator Homes project on Hickory is assisted with CDBG funds from CDA, as well as being built on land acquired by CDA many years ago for a land assembly project that never quite got to completion back when the Aldermen directed where CDBG funding went. The houses will be income restricted to buyers at or below 80% AMI. If I remember right, the proposed sale price is $160,000 each. CF Vatterrot also has a project underway on the 2700 block of Rutger and 2800 block of Hickory with 7 homes that are also CDA assisted on land that was part of the same assembly effort. Part of the site was the long ago demolished St. Henry Church. These houses are also income restricted affordable houses.

^^ these look way better than the garbage that McBride is throwing up in the Hill.

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Jun 30, 2020

^^ these look way better than the garbage that McBride is throwing up in the Hill.

Agreed. These are nice looking homes. 

MattnSTL wrote: ↑

Jun 30, 2020

The Gladiator Homes project on Hickory is assisted with CDBG funds from CDA, as well as being built on land acquired by CDA many years ago for a land assembly project that never quite got to completion back when the Aldermen directed where CDBG funding went. The houses will be income restricted to buyers at or below 80% AMI. If I remember right, the proposed sale price is $160,000 each. CF Vatterrot also has a project underway on the 2700 block of Rutger and 2800 block of Hickory with 7 homes that are also CDA assisted on land that was part of the same assembly effort. Part of the site was the long ago demolished St. Henry Church. These houses are also income restricted affordable houses.

So the homes in Dogtown are $385K, these will be $160K (which is great BTW), wonder what these will look like. Anybody seen plans? I'm more hopeful of Gladiator than Vatterott. Either way, the Gate District is such a strange, mixed bag of styles, I'd hope for good urban form with decent setbacks and parking on the alley instead of drive ways. 

MarkGroth2020 wrote: ↑

Jun 30, 2020

MattnSTL wrote: ↑

Jun 30, 2020

The Gladiator Homes project on Hickory is assisted with CDBG funds from CDA, as well as being built on land acquired by CDA many years ago for a land assembly project that never quite got to completion back when the Aldermen directed where CDBG funding went. The houses will be income restricted to buyers at or below 80% AMI. If I remember right, the proposed sale price is $160,000 each. CF Vatterrot also has a project underway on the 2700 block of Rutger and 2800 block of Hickory with 7 homes that are also CDA assisted on land that was part of the same assembly effort. Part of the site was the long ago demolished St. Henry Church. These houses are also income restricted affordable houses.

So the homes in Dogtown are $385K, these will be $160K (which is great BTW), wonder what these will look like. Anybody seen plans? I'm more hopeful of Gladiator than Vatterott. Either way, the Gate District is such a strange, mixed bag of styles, I'd hope for good urban form with decent setbacks and parking on the alley instead of drive ways. 

Selling in Dogtown for $385k and in the Gate District for $160k, I imagine the developers are selling at a loss? Do the CDBG funds cover the gap?

Are these the kind of projects the city should be subsidizing though? Affordable, decent, respectable housing?

They're high quality and energy efficient affordable houses. About 1600 sf if I recall correctly. Sure, finishes will be builder grade, but it won't be junk. The subsidy makes up the difference in construction cost. You literally cannot build the house for anything close to the sales price anywhere. That's why Gladiator submitted for the subsidy in a competitive round. They will make a profit that is worth doing it, but it is capped, and nothing spectacular. They can make more on market-rate spec houses. These lots had time requirements from HUD to get them developed, or the City would have been paying back the acquisition cost with non-federal funds, of which we know the City has none to spare.

^ Mostly meant the new homes in the Gate.  I feel like we should be subsidizing homes of the same quality that are going up in Dogtown for neighborhoods that need the attractability, density, new residents.

For instance, those horrid looking new homes going up at St. Louis Park Place on the north side.  Subsidize homes that people will be proud to own, and rebuild communities.  It's what's direly needed right now.