Cool - I'll do that, thanks a bunch!
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The property is assessed at $222,800, which is set at 32% of actual market value for a commercial property in St. Lous City.pattimagee wrote:Cool - I'll do that, thanks a bunch!
That means the Assessor thinks it legitimately would sell for $696,250 when offered for sale by a person who is willing but not obligated to sell it, and is bought by a person who is willing to purchase it but who is not forced to do so.
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This project hasn't been wild fire but it continues to make slow progress... a couple more homes were permitted the past couple weeks.
Thought I'd add this on here.
Habitat for Humanity is teaming up with SLU to build five new, affordable single family houses in the Gate District West. For some reason, these five houses will cost $1.1 million.
http://stlouiscnr.com/habitat-for-human ... dium=email
Habitat for Humanity is teaming up with SLU to build five new, affordable single family houses in the Gate District West. For some reason, these five houses will cost $1.1 million.
http://stlouiscnr.com/habitat-for-human ... dium=email
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Good to see this. I get frustrated when Habitat tends to cluster their homes in already struggling lower income neighborhoods like the Patch and north county.
SLU is planning on building homes on more than 40 parcels of land in the Northwest area of the Gate District. The neighborhood association will issue the RFP and will pick a developer to build the homes on those parcels of land. SLU and others say that these homes will be great to live in due to their proximity to Iron Hill and other developments.
A timeline for the new homes is up in the air.
https://www.kmov.com/news/slu-looking-t ... c32309.htm
This should be a good development for the Gate District. This part of the city is getting hot.
A timeline for the new homes is up in the air.
https://www.kmov.com/news/slu-looking-t ... c32309.htm
This should be a good development for the Gate District. This part of the city is getting hot.
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FYI, this was covered in the SLU blighting 395 acres thread. Mods, may make sense to combine posts.
city-to-blight-395-acres-around-slu-med ... 7-s75.html
city-to-blight-395-acres-around-slu-med ... 7-s75.html
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Once SLU IDs a builder(s) to develop these for residential, will they maintain ownership and keep these parcels tax-free? Or, will the home be owner/landlord occupied and they get added to the property tax rolls? If the latter, will they get 10+ years tax abatement?
What is your confidence level that the Gateway District West Neighborhood Association will do the right thing when it comes to good urban development? Do they even know what that is?
What is your confidence level that the Gateway District West Neighborhood Association will do the right thing when it comes to good urban development? Do they even know what that is?
Would anyone be surprised if Wash U private for profit development arm take a shot at this RFP? It is right up their alley (pun intended) with the experience and resources to pull it together
I think this thread as a separate development within the 385 acre blight area is fine. No need to combine the threads in my opinion. Keep comments specific to this development here and comments on the greater blight area & SLU on the other thread
I think this thread as a separate development within the 385 acre blight area is fine. No need to combine the threads in my opinion. Keep comments specific to this development here and comments on the greater blight area & SLU on the other thread
I think it's a little far out of their focus areas. I do see CF Vatterott responding to the RFP. They have built a lot of houses in the Gate District over the last 30 years, and have market-rate and affordable projects in the neighborhood right now.dredger wrote: Would anyone be surprised if Wash U private for profit development arm take a shot at this RFP? It is right up their alley (pun intended) with the experience and resources to pull it together
Ugh, please, no.MattnSTL wrote:
I think it's a little far out of their focus areas. I do see CF Vatterott responding to the RFP. They have built a lot of houses in the Gate District over the last 30 years, and have market-rate and affordable projects in the neighborhood right now.
Is the rfp public?chriss752 wrote: SLU is planning on building homes on more than 40 parcels of land in the Northwest area of the Gate District. The neighborhood association will issue the RFP and will pick a developer to build the homes on those parcels of land. SLU and others say that these homes will be great to live in due to their proximity to Iron Hill and other developments.
A timeline for the new homes is up in the air.
https://www.kmov.com/news/slu-looking-t ... c32309.htm
This should be a good development for the Gate District. This part of the city is getting hot.
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Keep in mind that we don't know if it's even been released yet. This release says that the neighborhood association will issue the RFP, not that they already have.
P-D - SLU seeks home developers for 43 lots east of hospitalThe SLU-affiliated St. Louis Midtown Redevelopment Corp and the Gate District West Neighborhood Association issued a request for proposals Friday seeking proposals to build infill, for-sale homes on the 43 lots scattered along Vista and Park avenues.
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The RFP says the new homes should be two stories and match the characteristics of the existing historic houses on the streets.
The St. Louis Midtown Redevelopment Corp website does not look like it has been touched in almost 2 years (it doesn't even mention Iron Hill). And the Gate District West Neighborhood Association does not maintain a website at all, apparently.
Nice write-up from St. Louis City Talk:
"What an opportunity for St. Louis, SSM and St. Louis University to improve and connect our city versus further dividing and blocking off SLU’s campus from the city. This will be our true first look into what STLMRC will bring to our city in the way of new infill home construction. This will be a harbinger of things to come, a glimpse into what they envision for 400 acres of our city...
The potential of new homes and residents to shepherd us toward mixed uses in a neighborhood that could be quite walk-able and dense is exciting. The street grid south of the SLU med campus is largely intact and passable in this part of the Gate District Neighborhood.
Let’s hope the cul-de-sacs and Schoemehl pots that isolate, restrict and divide other parts of the neighborhood are not repeated here.
The fact that they re-created a new sub-neighborhood association just for this project is concerning. It means fewer people get a voice in what our city will look like in the future. It is ultimately frustrating to care about this city as a whole when the powers that be lean toward divide and conquer tactics, and block participation unless you “live there”. And in some cases living there, means just blocks from the development proposal."
http://www.stlouiscitytalk.com/posts/20 ... ighborhood
"What an opportunity for St. Louis, SSM and St. Louis University to improve and connect our city versus further dividing and blocking off SLU’s campus from the city. This will be our true first look into what STLMRC will bring to our city in the way of new infill home construction. This will be a harbinger of things to come, a glimpse into what they envision for 400 acres of our city...
The potential of new homes and residents to shepherd us toward mixed uses in a neighborhood that could be quite walk-able and dense is exciting. The street grid south of the SLU med campus is largely intact and passable in this part of the Gate District Neighborhood.
Let’s hope the cul-de-sacs and Schoemehl pots that isolate, restrict and divide other parts of the neighborhood are not repeated here.
The fact that they re-created a new sub-neighborhood association just for this project is concerning. It means fewer people get a voice in what our city will look like in the future. It is ultimately frustrating to care about this city as a whole when the powers that be lean toward divide and conquer tactics, and block participation unless you “live there”. And in some cases living there, means just blocks from the development proposal."
http://www.stlouiscitytalk.com/posts/20 ... ighborhood
StLouisPublicRadio - St. Louis University Adds Housing To Redevelopment PlanCarter’s committee will review all proposals and select the developers. The committee wants the construction to fit the character of the historic single-family homes on the streets.
Habitat for Humanity has purchased several other lots in the neighborhood to build affordable housing.
Hopefully Habitat for Humanity can build something better than their usual, as this neighborhood deserves better than 1 1/2-story ranch-style homes. Also, interesting that there was no mention of Iron Hill in that article.
I still don't see the RFP anywhere, but I see someone at St. Louis Midtown Redevelopment Corporation finally remembered that they have a website.
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Ha, thanks Framer. I don't cross link to my website here, I think there are forum rules that disallow that kind of thing. Anyhow, would like to hear what everyone thinks about this process and the potential outcomes. I hope SLU is turning the corner on releasing their land banked properties for development.framer wrote:Nice write-up from St. Louis City Talk:
"What an opportunity for St. Louis, SSM and St. Louis University to improve and connect our city versus further dividing and blocking off SLU’s campus from the city. This will be our true first look into what STLMRC will bring to our city in the way of new infill home construction. This will be a harbinger of things to come, a glimpse into what they envision for 400 acres of our city...
The potential of new homes and residents to shepherd us toward mixed uses in a neighborhood that could be quite walk-able and dense is exciting. The street grid south of the SLU med campus is largely intact and passable in this part of the Gate District Neighborhood.
Let’s hope the cul-de-sacs and Schoemehl pots that isolate, restrict and divide other parts of the neighborhood are not repeated here.
The fact that they re-created a new sub-neighborhood association just for this project is concerning. It means fewer people get a voice in what our city will look like in the future. It is ultimately frustrating to care about this city as a whole when the powers that be lean toward divide and conquer tactics, and block participation unless you “live there”. And in some cases living there, means just blocks from the development proposal."
http://www.stlouiscitytalk.com/posts/20 ... ighborhood
Hadn't learned of the Habitat for Humanity component until now. Their recent work in Tiffany seems reasonable. Also, it seems the small section of neighbors immediately in the area want faux historic, not mod.urbanitas wrote:StLouisPublicRadio - St. Louis University Adds Housing To Redevelopment PlanCarter’s committee will review all proposals and select the developers. The committee wants the construction to fit the character of the historic single-family homes on the streets.
Habitat for Humanity has purchased several other lots in the neighborhood to build affordable housing.
Hopefully Habitat for Humanity can build something better than their usual, as this neighborhood deserves better than 1 1/2-story ranch-style homes. Also, interesting that there was no mention of Iron Hill in that article.
I still don't see the RFP anywhere, but I see someone at St. Louis Midtown Redevelopment Corporation finally remembered that they have a website.
Do you have any pics or an address of the Tiffany Habitat homes?Mark Groth wrote:Hadn't learned of the Habitat for Humanity component until now. Their recent work in Tiffany seems reasonable. Also, it seems the small section of neighbors immediately in the area want faux historic, not mod.
And yes, unfortunately, that's what I expect most of the housing will be - brick veneer facades and vinyl-siding on the rest, with large setbacks and huge side lawns. But I prefer the term faux old, as none of those homes ever remotely resemble anything historic.
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Here are our HFHSL renderings — 5 homes total in phase I. All universal design and energy efficient.
In Tiffany we will build 11 total homes when finished there, 8 are completed. See 3846,61 and 69 Folsom for most recently completed homes.
In Tiffany we will build 11 total homes when finished there, 8 are completed. See 3846,61 and 69 Folsom for most recently completed homes.
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^Thanks for the renders. Yes, these are plain, boring, boxes with vinyl siding; just what we'd expect from Habitat for Humanity. And I'm fine with that. They perfectly fit the group's mission, and are a worthwhile addition to the neighborhood. Not everything can (or should) be built to the highest standard.
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Looks like the brick wraps around the frontage before the siding starts. That's a small detail that makes a major difference from a street view and neighborhood perspective.
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Yes- it returns 10’ so the hardy board siding isn’t visible from front.
See our Tiffany finished product, great high quality and affordable and efficient and accessible and aesthetically complimentary housing !!
See our Tiffany finished product, great high quality and affordable and efficient and accessible and aesthetically complimentary housing !!
newstl2020 wrote: ↑Sep 27, 2019Looks like the brick wraps around the frontage before the siding starts. That's a small detail that makes a major difference from a street view and neighborhood perspective.