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PostOct 01, 2009#876

There was a burglary today on Wise... 3 males were using a stolen car and broke into a house, stealing a number of items. The police showed up as they were exiting, and 2 of the 3 were caught after they failed to get away... They are thought to have been frequenting the area... just an update for you Dogtown folks...

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PostOct 01, 2009#877

Thanks for the update.
FloPoErich wrote:There was a burglary today on Wise... 3 males were using a stolen car and broke into a house, stealing a number of items. The police showed up as they were exiting, and 2 of the 3 were caught after they failed to get away... They are thought to have been frequenting the area... just an update for you Dogtown folks...

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PostOct 01, 2009#878

Good ol' Post Dispatch. The prominent article in the right hand column is;

"Man shot after stopping to help stranded motorist"



Then directly under the title; "Police say a teen wearing all black clothing shot him in the leg with a pellet gun."



A pellet gun. Really? Top story. Wow.


The victim then got back into his car and drove to a nearby gas station for help. He was in stable condition at a local hospital.


Stable condition. Thank God he's going to survive. Most people don't survive pellet shots to the leg - except for ya know, 10 year old boys who have pellet gun wars.

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PostOct 01, 2009#879

From the PD comments section this morning about the gangsta shooting over in Clinton Peabody last night. In response to the standard city bashing, I found this little gem. I enjoyed it immensely.



"That is the old Clinton Peabody housing project site, which is like a little section 8 ghetto sandwiched between Lafayette Square and Soulard. Generally not too much of a problem. If some of you are too scared to come down to Lafayette Square and Soulard, or conceive of the whole city as being ghetto or pre-ghetto, I invite you to limit your meanderings to the nearest Walmart-- that is if you can even get your giant butt off the couch anymore and out into the faceless vinyl-sided maze you misunderstand as a community. While thugs shoot thugs in the city, little suburban piggies drive their Hummers to Applebees and wallow in the morass of mozzarella sticks, shopping malls and howling ignorance that they call their lives."

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PostOct 01, 2009#880

TGE-ATW wrote:From the PD comments section this morning about the gangsta shooting over in Clinton Peabody last night. In response to the standard city bashing, I found this little gem. I enjoyed it immensely.



"That is the old Clinton Peabody housing project site, which is like a little section 8 ghetto sandwiched between Lafayette Square and Soulard. Generally not too much of a problem. If some of you are too scared to come down to Lafayette Square and Soulard, or conceive of the whole city as being ghetto or pre-ghetto, I invite you to limit your meanderings to the nearest Walmart-- that is if you can even get your giant butt off the couch anymore and out into the faceless vinyl-sided maze you misunderstand as a community. While thugs shoot thugs in the city, little suburban piggies drive their Hummers to Applebees and wallow in the morass of mozzarella sticks, shopping malls and howling ignorance that they call their lives."


I was wondering where Central Scrutinizer had gone. Here's your answer.

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PostOct 01, 2009#881

dweebe wrote:
"That is the old Clinton Peabody housing project site, which is like a little section 8 ghetto sandwiched between Lafayette Square and Soulard. Generally not too much of a problem. If some of you are too scared to come down to Lafayette Square and Soulard, or conceive of the whole city as being ghetto or pre-ghetto, I invite you to limit your meanderings to the nearest Walmart-- that is if you can even get your giant butt off the couch anymore and out into the faceless vinyl-sided maze you misunderstand as a community. While thugs shoot thugs in the city, little suburban piggies drive their Hummers to Applebees and wallow in the morass of mozzarella sticks, shopping malls and howling ignorance that they call their lives."


I was wondering where Central Scrutinizer had gone. Here's your answer.


That doesn't sound like TCS to me, but I like it anyway. :lol:

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PostOct 02, 2009#882

JuiceInDogtown wrote:Good ol' Post Dispatch. The prominent article in the right hand column is;

"Man shot after stopping to help stranded motorist"



Then directly under the title; "Police say a teen wearing all black clothing shot him in the leg with a pellet gun."



A pellet gun. Really? Top story. Wow.


The victim then got back into his car and drove to a nearby gas station for help. He was in stable condition at a local hospital.


Stable condition. Thank God he's going to survive. Most people don't survive pellet shots to the leg - except for ya know, 10 year old boys who have pellet gun wars.


Well said.

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PostOct 02, 2009#883

JuiceInDogtown wrote: Thank God he's going to survive. Most people don't survive pellet shots to the leg - except for ya know, 10 year old boys who have pellet gun wars.


Or Plaxico Burress

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PostOct 04, 2009#884

Last night, I walked down Washington as the bars were shutting down and saw a grouping of flashing police lights at the SW corner of Washington and Tucker, right near the Lure nightclub. Crossing to it, I saw 3 police cars (2 squad & 1 detective) roping an area off with yellow crime scene tape, demarcating part of the scene by wrapping the tape around their cars.



Asking some people what’s going on, they lead my eyes to a fire hydrant at the corner, where underneath a giant pool of blood made its place on the sidewalk. Apparently, an “altercation” took place between partiers, culminating in some guys from an Escalade limo shoving some other guy, who fell down and cracked his head into the hydrant. The Escalade drove off with its passengers, and the other guy stayed on the ground, bleeding. A lot. It looked to be at least two full pints of blood on the sidewalk.



Meanwhile, the club was letting out, with party people eating hot dogs, acting “fabulous”, and trying to hail cabs as the police were cordoning off the crime scene. There were about 4-6 uniformed officers around additional to the squad cars, counter-balancing douche bags wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts 2 sizes too small and some girl who really wants to be Paris Hilton, or at least look like her.



Nothing on StLToday.com, and I’m really curious to know if that guy made it or not. I’m assuming minimally a massive concussion, skull fracture, and heavy blood loss.

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PostOct 04, 2009#885

GC... that's the "sexy and bloody" night. It's a new venue with a $100.00 prize for the "Best Douchebag" that the $30,000 millionaires compete for.



That happened early Sat. morning (Friday night)... is this the same? Because I was awakened late Friday, early Saturday and saw a bunch of cop cars down there...

Safe city map:

Reported As Serious Assault

DateTime 2009/10/03 00:01:00

Address 1200 block of WASHINGTON AVE

Area Downtown West

District 4

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PostOct 05, 2009#886

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument



Just talked to my cop friend in that district. Said that this was a party, couple leaving the house at 1:10, likely to get beer. Two THUG gunman ordered them into the house, when the shootout started. UNFORTUNATELY, the officer and a friend were the ones critically injured and senselessly murdered. I am so happy the thugs have been caught. It turns out that the unnamed person killed is a neighbor of mine, lives very close to me. If I am correct, this person is a mother of at least 2, if not 3 kids. I am so p'd right now! I hope those thugs burn..... :hell:

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PostOct 05, 2009#887

^

Channel 4 of course inaccurately reported that it happened in Lafayette Square as opposed to LaSalle Park.

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PostOct 05, 2009#888

^can't wait to see the Stltoday comment crew ripping the City, likely talking about the murder in Soulard or Lafayette Square.

PostOct 05, 2009#889

Looks like the initial info. was inaccurate. This person must know something more. I do know the officer was walking with her BF to the car when they were approached. I'd assume it was not a party then. I do know for sure that my neighbor was the victim. She has two kids, as described below. What a tragedy!



From the KSDK.com commentor:



"The story does not tell enough. Not only did these robbers invade their home and 3 people got shot, but they held up a family. This family had 2 elderly women, 2 young children, and 3 adults in that home. They should be put in jail and never let out to harm others. A beautiful woman died today. A police officer and a fire fighter were seriously injured. We should remember them all."

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PostOct 05, 2009#890

^Why spend the tax dollars necessary to keep them in prison for the rest of their lives? Express train to death row, and likely million plus dollars that would have been used to support sub-humans for life sentences gets invested into community development.



Honor the deceased through continuing to invigorate the community in which they lived, as opposed to letting this push negativity into the area.



Edit: I realized I hit a whole lot of hot button issues here. If it is removed I understand. Just my opinion.

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PostOct 05, 2009#891

At least these two scumbags were apprehended. They are a waste of spare body parts and would be more useful as fertilizer :evil:

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PostOct 05, 2009#892

Does anyone here think a 16 year old is not able to tell the difference between wrong and right? This kid should and will be charged as an adult. I'd be surprised if this kid even had a parent to claim him down at the station. Both need to burn that is for sure. Talk about senseless! 2 more kids will grow up with no



The scary, depressing and sad thing is that when things like this happen, they catch the thugs, yet there are always more and more thugs lined up ready to do the same thing or worse. When does it ever end!!

Who knows what the future holds. It is scary now, I'd hate to see how mean the streets are in 25-50 years.

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PostOct 05, 2009#893

^ Don't get too down Dogtown. FWIW - crimes like this have been occurring for a long, long time. Crimes will never be eradicated, but it's not destined to get worse and worse. In fact, the number of murders in the city is down substantially this year. That doesn't make this killing any less tragic, but you shouldn't get carried away either. The fact remains that if you're not involved in illegal activity and not on the street in the early hours of the morning you are very, very, very, very unlikely to be the victim of a violent crime. You should be more concerned with safety while driving.

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PostOct 05, 2009#894

gopher wrote:GC... that's the "sexy and bloody" night. It's a new venue with a $100.00 prize for the "Best Douchebag" that the $30,000 millionaires compete for.



That happened early Sat. morning (Friday night)... is this the same? Because I was awakened late Friday, early Saturday and saw a bunch of cop cars down there...

Safe city map:

Reported As Serious Assault

DateTime 2009/10/03 00:01:00

Address 1200 block of WASHINGTON AVE

Area Downtown West

District 4


Different assaults, same corner, two nights apart. Idiots. If only liquor patrol would do surprise checks for handguns & cocaine the same way they do for underage drinkers, Lure would be shut down immediately.

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PostOct 05, 2009#895

Grover wrote:
^ Don't get too down Dogtown. FWIW - crimes like this have been occurring for a long, long time. Crimes will never be eradicated, but it's not destined to get worse and worse. In fact, the number of murders in the city is down substantially this year. That doesn't make this killing any less tragic, but you shouldn't get carried away either. The fact remains that if you're not involved in illegal activity and not on the street in the early hours of the morning you are very, very, very, very unlikely to be the victim of a violent crime. You should be more concerned with safety while driving.


I guess it is human nature to think the sky is falling when the murder victim happens to be my neighbor, with two young kids nonetheless. Just depressing and makes you very angry. :hell:

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PostOct 05, 2009#896

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Grover wrote:
^ Don't get too down Dogtown. FWIW - crimes like this have been occurring for a long, long time. Crimes will never be eradicated, but it's not destined to get worse and worse. In fact, the number of murders in the city is down substantially this year. That doesn't make this killing any less tragic, but you shouldn't get carried away either. The fact remains that if you're not involved in illegal activity and not on the street in the early hours of the morning you are very, very, very, very unlikely to be the victim of a violent crime. You should be more concerned with safety while driving.


I guess it is human nature to think the sky is falling when the murder victim happens to be my neighbor, with two young kids nonetheless. Just depressing and makes you very angry. :hell:


Fair enough.

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PostOct 06, 2009#897

Grover wrote:^ Don't get too down Dogtown. FWIW - crimes like this have been occurring for a long, long time. Crimes will never be eradicated, but it's not destined to get worse and worse. In fact, the number of murders in the city is down substantially this year. That doesn't make this killing any less tragic, but you shouldn't get carried away either. The fact remains that if you're not involved in illegal activity and not on the street in the early hours of the morning you are very, very, very, very unlikely to be the victim of a violent crime. You should be more concerned with safety while driving.


Much of what you said is true, but I hope you'll understand that it's little consolation for my family and many other people right now. We didn't know the victim very well, but she was an acquaintance, a fellow parishioner, and we know several of her family members. I cannot imagine what they must be going through. And I cannot be comforted by thinking of the rarity of random violence like this, the downward trend in homicides in St. Louis, or any comparisons to driving safety(?). All I know is that two young boys, both of which are not much older than my son, are without their mother because of two lowlife thugs. Someone loved by many was senselessly killed, and some of her family and friends were literally terrorized in the process.



I don't know what else to say, except that my thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this...

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PostOct 06, 2009#898

You're absolutely right. The only point is that there's no reason to fear or the safety of our streets in 2050.

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PostOct 06, 2009#899

If this is the same Mario Coleman who was convicted twice before then we can all thank judge John J. Riley for this.



IF this is the same person, then the cops did their jobs TWICE yet the judge WE ELECTED let them right back out TWICE before.


A 22-year-old suspect, identified as Mario Coleman of St. Louis, was charged late Monday with one count of first-degree murder, two counts each of first-degree assault and first-degree robbery, one count of burglary, and six counts of armed criminal action. He was being held on $1 million cash bond.
http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/ ... 0d06b.html



John J. Riley was judge on both of these according to casenet...



0622-CR06095-01 - ST V MARIO COLEMAN

MARIO COLEMAN

12/12/2006

Burglary - 2nd Degree { Felony C RSMo: 569.170 }

Actual Sentence? 3 years

Know what he got?

The Court suspends imposition of sentence. Deft. placed on probation for a period of three years



And then...



In 8/28/2008...

0822-CR05286-01 - ST V MARIO COLEMAN

Unlawful Use Of A Weapon (Subsections 1 - 4) { Felony D RSMo: 571.030 }

Actual sentence? 4 years...

Know what he got?

SHOCK INCARCERATION 120 days. and then 2 years probation





Oh and the 16 year old? You know he can't get the needle don't you?

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-633.ZO.html

As it's "Cruel and Unusual Punishment".



:hell: Arm yourselves.

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PostOct 06, 2009#900

^ ARMING YOURSELF IS FOR STUPID REDNECK ANIMALS!!!! Prepare yourself for that response. I personally can't wait to get my conceal carry permit.





The Fox 2 anchor called LaSalle Park "a nice little neighborhood south of Purina." That surprised me.

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