^ you may need to define "moron". 
Juice wrote:
Indeed. You just proved my point.
For a lack of better words, I call you a moron. Oh, there's that selective sensitivity again.
Indeed. You just proved my point.
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dweebe,
the image you posted isn't showing up on my computer... but let me guess:
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the image you posted isn't showing up on my computer... but let me guess:
CLASSIC
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Speaking of crime...
Monday night, I heard what sounded like someone hitting on my door at around 11:30pm. My dogs started going nuts. I took out my .38 and walked upstairs...I looked outside, and walked around the perimeter of my house. Nothing.
20 minutes later, I was finally starting to calm down from being startled, when my neighbors car alarm went off. I finally decided it was time to call the police so they could have a look around.
I called south patrol. The lady who answered said she would "see what she could do" because "they are very busy tonight."
Is this not part of the job for police? If you order a cheeseburger from McDonald's, would an acceptable response be "I'll see what I can do, we are very busy tonight?" I don't think so.
But, McDonald's workers are only responsible for our food. The police are responsible for our safety. I find this response unacceptable. It really is no wonder that the police have such a bad reputation in the city. It's a shame, too.
If I were calling because a dog was barking, I would understand this response. I was calling because I thought there was a criminal walking the streets in my neighborhood.
Monday night, I heard what sounded like someone hitting on my door at around 11:30pm. My dogs started going nuts. I took out my .38 and walked upstairs...I looked outside, and walked around the perimeter of my house. Nothing.
20 minutes later, I was finally starting to calm down from being startled, when my neighbors car alarm went off. I finally decided it was time to call the police so they could have a look around.
I called south patrol. The lady who answered said she would "see what she could do" because "they are very busy tonight."
Is this not part of the job for police? If you order a cheeseburger from McDonald's, would an acceptable response be "I'll see what I can do, we are very busy tonight?" I don't think so.
But, McDonald's workers are only responsible for our food. The police are responsible for our safety. I find this response unacceptable. It really is no wonder that the police have such a bad reputation in the city. It's a shame, too.
If I were calling because a dog was barking, I would understand this response. I was calling because I thought there was a criminal walking the streets in my neighborhood.
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streetsabby wrote:Does anyone know what happened on the cpi parking lot Sunday night? It's the parking lot on Washington between 16th and 17th, just west of the Ely Walker. I was walking up the street and heard a bunch of yelling, by the time I got up to that block there was about 6 cop cars and a paddy wagon. A guy was down on the ground, screaming, in cuffs. A bunch of other people were standing around. Maybe it was just a drunken fight?
Earlier today, there was a cop dealing with 2 younger boys in the same parking lot. The cop had them sitting on the curb. Not sure what was going on there either.
Drunken fight would be a good description of it.
innov8ion wrote:I respectfully disagree. Less people have been killed this year than last year at this time.
Murders are down, Assaults, especially those with weapons are up, way up. As are robberies. The good news is that we've been catching a lot of the bad guys lately. The bad news is that the CA's office doesn't always issue charges.
JuiceInDogtown wrote:Speaking of crime...
Monday night, I heard what sounded like someone hitting on my door at around 11:30pm. My dogs started going nuts. I took out my .38 and walked upstairs...I looked outside, and walked around the perimeter of my house. Nothing.
20 minutes later, I was finally starting to calm down from being startled, when my neighbors car alarm went off. I finally decided it was time to call the police so they could have a look around.
I called south patrol. The lady who answered said she would "see what she could do" because "they are very busy tonight."
Is this not part of the job for police? If you order a cheeseburger from McDonald's, would an acceptable response be "I'll see what I can do, we are very busy tonight?" I don't think so.
But, McDonald's workers are only responsible for our food. The police are responsible for our safety. I find this response unacceptable. It really is no wonder that the police have such a bad reputation in the city. It's a shame, too.
If I were calling because a dog was barking, I would understand this response. I was calling because I thought there was a criminal walking the streets in my neighborhood.
Did you call the South Patrol Station or 911? The area stations are not equipped to dispatch calls and that may have been the reason you got the reponse that you did. (Not saying it was right)
911 is the way to go when you need the Police. Even that gets backed up though and you may be placed on hold.
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FloPoErich wrote:Murders are down, Assaults, especially those with weapons are up, way up.
When you turn the pistol sideways, all cool like, you're more likely to hit dudes in the leg. So I've heard.
maybe every citizen should be armed. criminals might think twice. cleary the criminals are armed..
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JCity wrote:maybe every citizen should be armed. criminals might think twice. cleary the criminals are armed..
I'm pro gun ownership rights, but the idea that it should be mandatory or even enocouraged for a majority of the populace scares me a bit.
First of all, the odds of being a victim of crime would have to go way way up before I would weigh the it on the cost/benefit analysis and decide that packin' 24/7 is worth it.
Secondly, if gun ownership went up many many times that would mean a lot of law abiding citizens who were ill prepared to handle firearms would have them.
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FloPoErich wrote:JuiceInDogtown wrote:Speaking of crime...
Monday night, I heard what sounded like someone hitting on my door at around 11:30pm. My dogs started going nuts. I took out my .38 and walked upstairs...I looked outside, and walked around the perimeter of my house. Nothing.
20 minutes later, I was finally starting to calm down from being startled, when my neighbors car alarm went off. I finally decided it was time to call the police so they could have a look around.
I called south patrol. The lady who answered said she would "see what she could do" because "they are very busy tonight."
Is this not part of the job for police? If you order a cheeseburger from McDonald's, would an acceptable response be "I'll see what I can do, we are very busy tonight?" I don't think so.
But, McDonald's workers are only responsible for our food. The police are responsible for our safety. I find this response unacceptable. It really is no wonder that the police have such a bad reputation in the city. It's a shame, too.
If I were calling because a dog was barking, I would understand this response. I was calling because I thought there was a criminal walking the streets in my neighborhood.
Did you call the South Patrol Station or 911? The area stations are not equipped to dispatch calls and that may have been the reason you got the reponse that you did. (Not saying it was right)
911 is the way to go when you need the Police. Even that gets backed up though and you may be placed on hold.
I called south patrol because I have a hard time distinguishing what is and isn't an emergency. Plus, it seems like when I've called I've always gotten directed to those that can help...in other words, calling in a drunk driver on the highway, they'll put you on hold for the Highway Patrol (or ISP in Illinois).
Next time I will just try 911, I just hate tying it up when someone could be having a heart attack.
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southsidepride wrote:JCity wrote:maybe every citizen should be armed. criminals might think twice. cleary the criminals are armed..
I'm pro gun ownership rights, but the idea that it should be mandatory or even enocouraged for a majority of the populace scares me a bit.
First of all, the odds of being a victim of crime would have to go way way up before I would weigh the it on the cost/benefit analysis and decide that packin' 24/7 is worth it.
Secondly, if gun ownership went up many many times that would mean a lot of law abiding citizens who were ill prepared to handle firearms would have them.
No, no , no. It's totally cool. Perhaps the government could just subsidize proper gun training for all citizens. I mean, we have a "well regulated militia" here in Forest Park Southeast, but I would just want to make sure that the Shaw residents were not simply a "reasonably-well regulated militia."
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Alls I know is when I heard that noise outside and my dogs starting going nuts when I had been in bed for an hour, it was a comfort to have the steel in my hand.
Btw, my post was the email I sent to disom@slmpd.org, assuming this is Chief Dan Isom's email address since it didn't get returned to me. He doesn't seem to offer it anywhere on their website or on his blog, unless I'm blind. A little strange, they usually have that type of information.
Btw, my post was the email I sent to disom@slmpd.org, assuming this is Chief Dan Isom's email address since it didn't get returned to me. He doesn't seem to offer it anywhere on their website or on his blog, unless I'm blind. A little strange, they usually have that type of information.
If you're gonna carry (and I think responsible people should), you must take training, and then more training, and then even more training. And I hope to god no one ever gets forced into the situation where they have to use it.
You've got to be aware of the laws of when you can carry, and when you can't. You must be well-versed in the state laws and be prepared to use deadly, lethal force. Not only the physical aspect, but the mental aspect of taking another life.
This is a big responsibility, and not everyone should have it if they can't handle that responsibility. This also includes gun safety IN and out of the house, and training everyone in your household how to safely use firearms.
That being said, there are several places around St. Louis that offer excellent training; especially weapon retrieval, and more importantly weapon retention.
A great place to go is the August A Busch range out in St. Charles. They've got skeet, trap, pistol, and a rifle range. The range fees run about $3.00 / hour (last time I was there) and they have around 3 range officers running the course. I've also shot down at Bullseye down on Manchester and they have some pretty good classes down there to help with sight alignment, proper stance, etc.
Some of the ranges like Bullseye and TopGun allow you to rent guns to try as well.
Plus, if you ever get out to Fairfax, VA take a tour of the National Firearms museum and if you get the chance, fire on the NRA range. It's awesome.
If you don't get a CCW, or even believe in owning a gun, everyone, and I mean everyone should know how to safely handle a firearm.
You've got to be aware of the laws of when you can carry, and when you can't. You must be well-versed in the state laws and be prepared to use deadly, lethal force. Not only the physical aspect, but the mental aspect of taking another life.
This is a big responsibility, and not everyone should have it if they can't handle that responsibility. This also includes gun safety IN and out of the house, and training everyone in your household how to safely use firearms.
That being said, there are several places around St. Louis that offer excellent training; especially weapon retrieval, and more importantly weapon retention.
A great place to go is the August A Busch range out in St. Charles. They've got skeet, trap, pistol, and a rifle range. The range fees run about $3.00 / hour (last time I was there) and they have around 3 range officers running the course. I've also shot down at Bullseye down on Manchester and they have some pretty good classes down there to help with sight alignment, proper stance, etc.
Some of the ranges like Bullseye and TopGun allow you to rent guns to try as well.
Plus, if you ever get out to Fairfax, VA take a tour of the National Firearms museum and if you get the chance, fire on the NRA range. It's awesome.
If you don't get a CCW, or even believe in owning a gun, everyone, and I mean everyone should know how to safely handle a firearm.
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JuiceInDogtown wrote:I called south patrol because I have a hard time distinguishing what is and isn't an emergency.
Ugh! For the ten thousandth time, you don't have to make that decision. The dispatcher will make it for you. That's what they get paid to do.
Like my cop friends have always told me - if you want the police to show up, call 911. If you don't, call some other number.
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I find the idea that every "responsible citizen" needs to be schooled in the ballistic arts rather absurd.
throatybeard wrote:I find the idea that every "responsible citizen" needs to be schooled in the ballistic arts rather absurd.
Please re-read my post as that's not what I stated.
Everyone should know how to handle a firearm safely.
Not everyone should have it [a firearm / CCW] if they aren't willing to take on the responsibility that goes with it.
Can we please roll the Rick back up the hill now?
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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
Looks like the 'THUGS' are going to be charged. Let me correct myself, it appears as if one of the THUGS was served justice. The other 2 will pay with their lives or life in prison. Are these criminals this stupid or bold, thinking they will not get caught? They are going down for life, due to their need for a small amount of cash. Maybe life is just better in the state pen. Who f-ing knows! I am glad that they will get what they deserve and Mike Dolan can now RIP.
Looks like the 'THUGS' are going to be charged. Let me correct myself, it appears as if one of the THUGS was served justice. The other 2 will pay with their lives or life in prison. Are these criminals this stupid or bold, thinking they will not get caught? They are going down for life, due to their need for a small amount of cash. Maybe life is just better in the state pen. Who f-ing knows! I am glad that they will get what they deserve and Mike Dolan can now RIP.
^
Kudos to the boys and girls in blue.
Now lets hope the justice system puts these 'THUGS' away or under ground permanently.
Kudos to the boys and girls in blue.
Now lets hope the justice system puts these 'THUGS' away or under ground permanently.
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Kudos to the boys and girls in blue
Good point Gopher!Forgot to give it up for the police dept.Great job! =D>
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DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Kudos to the boys and girls in blue
Good point Gopher!Forgot to give it up for the police dept.Great job! =D>
Definitely - nice work, SLPD.
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Bravo to the St. Louis Police!
May the Dolan family and friends find peace in knowing these scum will face either death or life behind bars. Enjoy the free love in prison boys
I see from reading the STL Today story that the commenters in the days after the murder who were screaming for the Post to offer the vaguest description of the suspects (i.e. that they were black) are STILL complaining about it.
W T F? The police caught them!
May the Dolan family and friends find peace in knowing these scum will face either death or life behind bars. Enjoy the free love in prison boys
I see from reading the STL Today story that the commenters in the days after the murder who were screaming for the Post to offer the vaguest description of the suspects (i.e. that they were black) are STILL complaining about it.
W T F? The police caught them!
Let's see: crime (check), speculation about perps (check), race-related argument's (check), personal attacks (check), attempted threadjack extolling the benefits of carrying a loaded gun around one's home investigating random noises while children sleep in adjacent rooms (check), perp's caught (check), opportunity to vent individual fantasy's regarding appropriate punishment (check)............looks like this one's a wrap! That's some nice police work their Lou.