“Ferguson Police Department from interim chief’s point of view” [Los Angeles Times]. Wild stuff, some of it utterly unmoored from reality.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fer ... tml#page=1
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fer ... tml#page=1
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^ denial and delusion to the bitter f*cking end. it's no wonder nobody wants to be here.
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I can't recall what area she had told me however when i see her again i'll ask her. She's not a native of Saint.Louis she's from Minneapolis. She also went on to tell me that she's a complete urban person she really doesn't want to leave downtown. I asked her what areas she was specifically looking to move too she mentioned U. City Webster Groves Maplewood Richmond Heights areas she's looking at so the inner ring suburbsdowntown2007 wrote:Can you offer any more information? Some description of these incidents? The concentration of crime downtown is usually in the small pocket around the NLEC/Bridge/7-11 and they area of struggle.St.Louis1764 wrote:It's very hard to fight for the neighborhood you love when its being taken away by criminals. I talked to a lady yesterday in downtown as she told me that she was fed up with the crime particularly downtown & she hopes to move out of downtown by sept.1st. She has solid & valid reasonings. I just hope someday there can be a time when crime isn't as high as it is today in our future.
75 & rising is nothing to celebrate about. Cops can only do so much it takes for residents to have the will power to stand up for whats right.
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Bringing guns into a zoo is the closest this Ohio guy will ever get to a safari, I guess. Or what if there was a great zoo train robbery this guy could thwart? The NRA is running out of gun proliferation ideas since they own every legislature. They've heard we may be threatened by gorilla warfare. Should we arm the Orangutans? I'm not sure how concealed carry would work with them.jstriebel wrote:I understand that not every gun-owner is this guy, but this is why it's so easy to get frustrated by gun advocates.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... tA.twitter
Like what is he even fighting for? Why does this matter?
Dude, the animals in a zoo are CAGED. You will be perfectly safe.jstriebel wrote:I understand that not every gun-owner is this guy, but this is why it's so easy to get frustrated by gun advocates.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... tA.twitter
Like what is he even fighting for? Why does this matter?
Crime on the rise again in St. Louis.
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/06/08/ ... -st-louis/
Wasn't concealed carry supposed to reduce crime since criminals would be less bold thinking the victim may have a concealed gun? Or are they more bold and inclined to shoot first in case the victim is concealing a gun and could shoot first. I suspect there are just a lot more guns being purchased and they are making their way to criminals in increasing numbers.
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Wasn't concealed carry supposed to reduce crime since criminals would be less bold thinking the victim may have a concealed gun? Or are they more bold and inclined to shoot first in case the victim is concealing a gun and could shoot first. I suspect there are just a lot more guns being purchased and they are making their way to criminals in increasing numbers.
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^ what events drove the two spikes in December and March?
up compared to WHEN? superb "journalism" CBS.Murder, robbery, burglary, car thefts and assaults all went up double digits last month, as the city’s year-to-date crime report for May shows a total crime increase of 15.5 percent.
In St. Louis through May, the year to date numbers show:
– Murder up 34.6 percent
– Robbery up 40.3 percent
– Assaults up 16.5 percent
– Burglary up 19.7 percent
– Larceny up 11.3 percent
– Vehicle theft up 18.1 percent
...assaults with guns rose 41.7 percent.
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Sure am glad I am not obsessed with crime. I find the whole topic a huge bore.
It's a battering ram politicians use to pummel each other; it's a cause celebre the cops use to justify the hiring of more police officers at taxpayer expense; and it's mostly a wedge issue people use as a scare tactic to cause division and fear.
Really an overblown issue. Is it a problem? Sure. Are most people directly affected by it? No.
They just love being scared.
It's a battering ram politicians use to pummel each other; it's a cause celebre the cops use to justify the hiring of more police officers at taxpayer expense; and it's mostly a wedge issue people use as a scare tactic to cause division and fear.
Really an overblown issue. Is it a problem? Sure. Are most people directly affected by it? No.
They just love being scared.
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Crime is easily sensationalized and definitely used as a political wedge, but it affects all of us. And the reasons for urban growth in recent years are surely complex and many, but I have no question that the downturn in crime is a significant reason why more people are willing to live in them. Any city that returns to a consistent level of early 90's-era violent crime is going to face tremendous challenges.
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Heres a ? Do you all think its time for PC Sam Dotson to be relieved of his duty's i know he hasn't been on very long however i feel homicides have gotten worse along with other things. I'm not saying crime is going to go away however halving it or cutting it half will be a major step in the right direction. Lets be real about crime is Saint.Louis's biggest nemesis it really does effect where people choose to live work vacation also attracting those big companies that you all talk about..I'll go out on a limb if we're going to talk about pr or perception this is the biggest problem right now. I'm not sensationalizing this i'm being real about it this needs to be addressed cause the current method just not working .Lets face it people are going to go where theres abundant job growth good quality education safe streets less crime progressive and good positive pr does help along with all the national rankings. Being a cheap place to live isn't going to bring people here. Saint.Louis has the foundation i just don't think our leaders know how to take the next step or don't want to take the next step.
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Interesting piece on Smart Guns in the Post Dispatch this morning.
"Criminologists say they believe many of the nation’s roughly 11,000 annual gun-related homicides are committed with stolen weapons."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/s ... 0b31a.html
Also:
"Each year in the U.S., 31,000 people die in gun-related incidents and 73,000 more are injured, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Smart technology — using fingerprint recognition, hand biometrics, coded locks or other features to make sure a gun can be fired only by its owner — could be used to prevent many of those casualties. Had Nancy Lanza owned a smart gun, perhaps she, her son and the 26 people he shot in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., might have lived. In addition, the technology could save some of the 650 Americans each year between the ages of 10 and 19 who, according to published estimates, use relatives’ guns to take their own lives. At least 18 police officers whose weapons were used against them have been killed in the line of duty since 2007."
So, gun hobbyist are concerned that the law may require all NEW guns sales to be smart guns someday. What exactly is the objection to that? Would that violate the 2nd Amendment?
http://armatix.us/products/ip1-personalized/
"Criminologists say they believe many of the nation’s roughly 11,000 annual gun-related homicides are committed with stolen weapons."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/s ... 0b31a.html
Also:
"Each year in the U.S., 31,000 people die in gun-related incidents and 73,000 more are injured, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Smart technology — using fingerprint recognition, hand biometrics, coded locks or other features to make sure a gun can be fired only by its owner — could be used to prevent many of those casualties. Had Nancy Lanza owned a smart gun, perhaps she, her son and the 26 people he shot in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., might have lived. In addition, the technology could save some of the 650 Americans each year between the ages of 10 and 19 who, according to published estimates, use relatives’ guns to take their own lives. At least 18 police officers whose weapons were used against them have been killed in the line of duty since 2007."
So, gun hobbyist are concerned that the law may require all NEW guns sales to be smart guns someday. What exactly is the objection to that? Would that violate the 2nd Amendment?
http://armatix.us/products/ip1-personalized/
Band vans are getting hit again.
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmus ... _louis.php
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmus ... _louis.php
...This latest wave of thefts has left Cracchiolo feeling frustrated and angry. He has heard from booking agents that some touring musicians have requested to be routed around St. Louis, and he is afraid that St. Louis is developing a bad reputation.
"St. Louis isn't the only place where this happens," Cracchiolo says. "If you follow the issue on a national scale, you'll see that it happens in San Francisco all the time, it happens in Chicago pretty constantly. The difference is that nobody is going to skip those markets. You can't really do a full U.S. tour and not play those markets, because they're major markets. St. Louis is not. It's something where you can maybe make that decision and say, 'We can't avoid San Francisco, but maybe we can avoid St. Louis this time around.'"
Radio Birds is scheduled to play at Off Broadway on July 30. Keller says the band has no interest in canceling the show.
"This doesn't only happen in St. Louis by any means," he says. "Seeing as it has happened like nine times very recently is a little concerning and we'll definitely take precautions, but I don't think we'll take any more precautions than we would anywhere else from here on out."
On the other hand, Moynihan says that on Hollow Earth's next tour, the band will likely be steering past St. Louis.
"It has gotten to the point now where we're like, '*****.' [St. Louis] is a stop that makes sense for getting somewhere else, but the shows are never good, everybody gets their gear stolen. So why are we ***** coming here," Moynihan says. "And then we remember the City Museum."
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^ this could be stopped if the STLPD gave a sh*t about it. how hard could it be to plant a decoy van and wait for the perps to strike? and all you f*cking need to prevent it is to have somebody watch the van! jesus, i just don't see how this has become such a huge issue.
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Is it a given that all these crimes were perpetrated by the same small group of criminals?urban_dilettante wrote:^ this could be stopped if the STLPD gave a sh*t about it. how hard could it be to plant a decoy van and wait for the perps to strike? and all you f*cking need to prevent it is to have somebody watch the van! jesus, i just don't see how this has become such a huge issue.
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i haven't heard one way or the other but i think it's pretty likely that it's an organized operation. regardless, to my knowledge there hasn't been a single arrest or even a suspect yet in all the time this has been going on. anybody know differently? i just find it hard to believe that it's this difficult to apprehend crooks targeting specific vans in specific locations during specific times.MarkHaversham wrote:Is it a given that all these crimes were perpetrated by the same small group of criminals?urban_dilettante wrote:^ this could be stopped if the STLPD gave a sh*t about it. how hard could it be to plant a decoy van and wait for the perps to strike? and all you f*cking need to prevent it is to have somebody watch the van! jesus, i just don't see how this has become such a huge issue.
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Highly damaging if she is charged:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 5675e.html
Sources: http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-and- ... 41886.htmlA suspended St. Louis police officer is accused of gun and drug charges.
St. Louis city prosecutors charged 34-year-old Natalie Williams on Tuesday with two felony counts of unlawful use of a weapon and one count of distribution or manufacturing of drugs.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 5675e.html
Hasn't it also been speculated that this is an inside job?urban_dilettante wrote:i haven't heard one way or the other but i think it's pretty likely that it's an organized operation. regardless, to my knowledge there hasn't been a single arrest or even a suspect yet in all the time this has been going on. anybody know differently? i just find it hard to believe that it's this difficult to apprehend crooks targeting specific vans in specific locations during specific times.MarkHaversham wrote:Is it a given that all these crimes were perpetrated by the same small group of criminals?urban_dilettante wrote:^ this could be stopped if the STLPD gave a sh*t about it. how hard could it be to plant a decoy van and wait for the perps to strike? and all you f*cking need to prevent it is to have somebody watch the van! jesus, i just don't see how this has become such a huge issue.
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So it looks like we've had homicides today in the city's northside, southside and westside. Thank god we don't have an eastside.
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^ actually that may have been yesterday afternoon; a woman was found shot in a home.
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The idiot with the billboard company just started his protest about the city's murder rate by sitting on top of a billboard in North St. Louis. He says he'll stay up there until the city goes 7 straight days without a homicide.
Better make it another 7 - the cops just found a dead baby in the bushes near Grand and Keokuk.
This guy is a fool, but his plight might just actually generate some interesting comments from local leaders.
Better make it another 7 - the cops just found a dead baby in the bushes near Grand and Keokuk.
This guy is a fool, but his plight might just actually generate some interesting comments from local leaders.
Fortunately, the baby thing at least turned out to be a false alarm: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 7f343.htmlNorthside Neighbor wrote:The idiot with the billboard company just started his protest about the city's murder rate by sitting on top of a billboard in North St. Louis. He says he'll stay up there until the city goes 7 straight days without a homicide.
Better make it another 7 - the cops just found a dead baby in the bushes near Grand and Keokuk.
This guy is a fool, but his plight might just actually generate some interesting comments from local leaders.
Sitting on top of a billboard with the weather we've had lately?
That seems... not smart.
That seems... not smart.
This happen in DC sad stories like this happen across the nation in a regular bases not just in stl. News like this helps keep mainstream middle class people living in the burbs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cri ... ml?hpid=z3
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cri ... ml?hpid=z3