Dumb people with smart phones.roger wyoming II wrote:nice to see some quick arrests on some of these crimes.... cameras in Hodiamont helped there and it always is a bonus when teens social media their dumbassery.
Absolutely. Wasn't that the original site of St. Anthony's Hospital? Too bad that structure couldn't have been preserved, but it came down in the 1970s, the decade in which our city leaders are still stuck when it comes to urban development.TheNewSaintLouis wrote: Dutchtown at 1 time used to be nice. The intersection of Grand & Chippewa looks a terrible mess & gives the area a bad vide . That old national store along has got to go just makes the area look very uninviting.
That stretch of Grand (and the surrounding blocks) have really deteriorated over the last decade.threeonefour wrote:Absolutely. Wasn't that the original site of St. Anthony's Hospital? Too bad that structure couldn't have been preserved, but it came down in the 1970s, the decade in which our city leaders are still stuck when it comes to urban development.TheNewSaintLouis wrote: Dutchtown at 1 time used to be nice. The intersection of Grand & Chippewa looks a terrible mess & gives the area a bad vide . That old national store along has got to go just makes the area look very uninviting.
That intersection looks terrible. McDonald's, Burger King, and Arby's all closed along this stretch years ago. While they weren't architectural triumphs, at least they looked better when they were occupied. Nettie's is long gone, replaced with yet another mobile phone / convenience store. Meramec Street, on the other hand, looks much better, especially near Virginia Avenue. However, as one passes St. Anthony of Padua and travels east, things get a bit worse. I have lived in Carondelet on the west side of I-55 for ten years, and Dutchtown has gotten much worse since then despite the valiant effort of Meramec Street businesses to make the area better. There are simply too many rentals on the state streets nearby, and too many property owners who clearly don't give a damn. I don't want to stray too far off topic, but these conditions lead to more crime.
As for crime in the city at large, the links leeharvey posted say it all. It's still very much a problem, regardless of the public relations strategies employed by the mayor and police chief, which involve alternately ignoring crime and telling people that it's down overall even when high-profile crimes give people legitimate reasons to be concerned.
I think that part is OK, across Grand from there that neighborhood is OK for the most part..its families that sent their kids to Resurrection grade school and also a mix of Asian families.dweebe wrote:
I keep waiting for the news of when Ted Drewes closes the Grand store. It wouldn't shock me at all.
A lot of the footage in that video was not of BPV.DogtownBnR wrote:http://fox2now.com/2014/08/08/three-peo ... k-village/
Thousands upon thousands of people come downtown everyday and most if not all are safe. Incidents will happen in popular places with a lot of people. And as a place becomes more popular there will be more incidents. People in STL are too sensitive to crime. It happens everywhere.arch city wrote:The robbery didn't happen at BPV.
Here's the story.
And here's the general vicinity (courtesy of Google Maps).
Too bad one simply cannot go downtown and be safe. However, one should never walk down streets and alleys where there are dark empty buildings. Traversing alleys and dark empty streets will you mugged in any city.
Having grown up in St. Louis' urban core and having spent lots of time downtown, I know that.downtown2007 wrote:Thousands upon thousands of people come downtown everyday and most if not all are safe. Incidents will happen in popular places with a lot of people. And as a place becomes more popular there will be more incidents. People in STL are too sensitive to crime. It happens everywhere.
I often wonder with a lot of south city on the rebound if dutch town never slipped would the city have a huge homeless crises. For example with all the progress in the tower grove neighborhoods, fpse, mcree town and soon Benton park e&w if dutch town stayed strong I think there we be a lot more people out on the streets. I am not against gentrification but maybe dutch town right now is providing the city a service by housing the poor. But I do want and optimistic dutch town will have a comeback.dbInSouthCity wrote:I think that part is OK, across Grand from there that neighborhood is OK for the most part..its families that sent their kids to Resurrection grade school and also a mix of Asian families.dweebe wrote:
I keep waiting for the news of when Ted Drewes closes the Grand store. It wouldn't shock me at all.
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i,Iive,to,draw wrote:Unless you had one robbery last july then 3 this july that would be about 300 percent, but plainly misinterpreting facts wouldn't surprise me any about st louis's sensational media .
