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Correct me if I'm wrong but there's already a police substation on the corner.

leeharveyawesome wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but there's already a police substation on the corner.

There is, and it usually has at least one, if not two, police cars parked outside. I live on Accomac, although not the block where this shooting happened. It's a beautiful street, and I'm surrounded by great neighbors. I've never felt unsafe hanging around in my backyard or walking around the neighborhood. I usually see lots of folks out walking, jogging with their dogs, socializing. A lot of kids play in the streets in the summer.

southsidepride wrote:If you just search comments on this site about "2700 Accomac" or "Old Accomac" you can see there are some gangs here that don't want to let go of their hood.

Maybe it's time for cops to go in guns blazing. These punks would be better off as compost!

Well said! The criminal element, who's members have no respect for anything, not even their own lives has been allowed to ruin former great places like St. Louis for too long. This is a disgrace!

Here in LA, there have recently been gang injunctions put in place in certain areas, the most recent being in the area known as Echo Park, with the purpose of limiting certain colors that are worn and known gang members from hanging out, etc. I'm sure the constitutionality of such an injunction will be tested at some point. Is there any such measure in STL?

^ unfortunately injunctions are useless without the enforcement to back them up. if a police substation on the same block doesn't deter these POS i doubt an injunction will do any good.

How about an old fashioned neighborhood peace march?

Show solidarity with neighbors and community organizations, led by the police chief, the mayor, the alderman, and representatives from crime victim families.

The good people are not alone. They outnumber the evil-doers. Online discussions are great, but they're not read by criminals. Only a physical presence on the street will be felt by them.

Let them know they are unwelcome!

Find it hard to believe people have more time to go out and kill someone rather spending that time trying to make themselves a better person.. Guns aren't dangerous it's people with the guns that make them dangerous ....

BrickCity4470 wrote:Find it hard to believe people have more time to go out and kill someone rather spending that time trying to make themselves a better person.. Guns aren't dangerous it's people with the guns that make them dangerous ....

Well, guns ARE dangerous. That's what they exist to be.

But you can certainly say it's the people that actually make use of that danger.

And dangerous people with access to guns are much more dangerous than those without access to them.

Find it hard to believe people have more time to go out and kill someone rather spending that time trying to make themselves a better person..

You really have a hard time believing this? Come on down here in the rabble and see what it's like at the bottom of the 99%.

It's amazing what happens all around you that you don't even really know about and you're probably better off not knowing.
Sub-90 IQ perps impersonate city workers then rob at gunpoint (article casually mentions a similar incident just last week when a homeowner ended shot in a doorway scuffle). This was in Soulard. Much of the day-to-day crime news is kept out of the papers, the papers (get it?).

I think I've seen this particular retarded looking fellow around, maybe not.
http://www.kmov.com/news/just-posted/Tw ... 01791.html

Either way someone lost their life because of a clown that doesn't care and NN i was born in that 99 in the early 80s at the old city hospital . I was raised off of De tonty St then in McCreetown at its worse then moved to Fairgrounds park area where the big massacre happened at the old National store... I can say ive grew up in the roughest of the roughest.. We're all in charge of our own destiny/future as we grow and are all ceptable to peer pressure .
Ofcourse our courts let these criminals off way to easily
I'm a very understanding person and listener and will help anyone but we often use poverty as a very poor excuse for the reasoning for such bad things as murders

We're born into land of opportunity so they say ...
Like i mention St.Louisans put up with so much negative media that you try tuning it out....
The truth of the matter is how can we prevent the bleeding of souls ....
I don't think theres a way guns out number residents but i could be wrong ...

Had some folks from the Neighborhood Stabilization Team and the police department come by this morning and drop off a Crime Stoppers sheet, Nuisance Reporting card, and a sheet for a meeting tomorrow for the Fox Park Neighborhood.

The Fox Park Neighborhood Association
and Alderwoman Christine Ingrassia

Town Hall Forum on Crime
with Police Chief Sam Dotson

Saturday March 8th
10am - 12pm

Sheet Metal Workers' Local 36
2319 Chouteau Ave

Seems there's been shootings about everyday or every other day.. Where are they getting these guns from?

Anywhere they want. This country is awash in guns and ammo.

^ Yet, the vast majority of people don't go around shooting and murdering others. This problem is basically limited to one segment of society, which is of a criminal element.

The leftist line that these people have had a rough life, so they can't really be blamed has causes havoc on our cities. It's often times very true that this is a societal problem, whereby a high percentage of these individuals grow up in fatherless homes, raised by single mothers, who became pregnant as a teenager. It's also true that the union dominated schools, which see our schools as a jobs program, rather than a place to educate children have done tremendous harm. It very well may be true that they've eaten lead paint in their older homes, which has caused lower than average IQ. The list of excuses goes on and on.

Whatever the excuse of the day is, it's high time to revert the blame back from society and put responsibility back on the criminals, including the juveniles, many of whom you see standing on the corner today, will become hard core criminals in a few years. It's very sad indeed that people have such little respect for life-including their own-that they go around committing heinous crimes such as these, but it's much sadder and outrageous that the rest of us must fear for our own security.

onecity wrote:

The leftist line that these people have had a rough life,

As a "leftist" my view is provide social and financial resources so their opportunities are equal to kids in Ladue, break up and scatter poverty ghettos to the winds, and if someone commits a violent/deadly crime, f*** 'em.

+1

Now I do think we need to focus on mental health and the fact that poor people with mental illness fall through the cracks much more easily.

But that doesn't mean I condone violent behavior at all and would like to see more criminals who attack innocent people locked up for good or executed.

^ Mental illness is a real issue concerning homelessness, but not so much of one when it comes to the serial criminals who only know a life of crime. Whereas these repeat offenders are responsible for the vast majority of serious crimes such as assault and murder, most homeless people don't commit major crimes.

Does anyone on here believe that the culture of music has a big staple on todays people specially in the african american community..The N word is heavily used in this community like its saying thank you for acknowledging im ignorant disrespectful and don't give F*** with what others think.. Todays music particularly rap is horrible demeaning and down right atrocious. That's not music its crap that shouldn't be put out in a community that i feel is almost in self genocide... I was reading a article about Missouri being one of the leading states for african american deaths in shootings . Shameful this state needs to do something about the guns on the streets. St.Louis can't do it alone. This community needs a lot of peace and healing and churches aren't the answer for prayers..
I also feel the government aides this behavior.. Why should someone get a check for having a kid that can likely go out and work like the rest of us...
Mental not mental you know what your doing when you open your legs and you wiggle your stick..