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The citizens of O'Fallon Park and similar northside neighborhoods need to be as disgusted by crime as the folks in Francis Park. I believe most are, but unfortunately the "no snitch" attitude still rears it's ugly head.

Posted this yesterday. Copy of email sent from the StLPD. Seems as if these thugs are getting bolder and bolder. They just walk in without a hood or mask. Someone has to identify these thugs.

Per the authority of Capt. Ronnie Robinson, DSN 3702. Please disseminate
to all commissioned personnel.


The depicted pictures are of the Robbery 1st that occurred at Target
4255 Hampton on 7-30-10 at 4:11PM, per complaint #10-43419.

The subject in the yellow Polo shirt showed the cashier a dark colored
pistol in his waistband and took $1637.00 in cash. He is described as a
black male 28-33 years old, 6'0" to 6'2" 180-200lbs. He had a gold watch
and a Bluetooth earpiece.

The subject in the white muscle t-shirt and braids was seen entering the
store with the above suspect. He left the store prior to the robbery.

Both subjects fled in a dark colored 4door vehicle, possibly a Pontiac
Bonneville. The vehicle had white letters at the top of the rear window.
It also had a sunroof with an air deflector on top. The vehicle can be
seen fleeing the area south on Hampton.

Anyone with information please contact the Second District Detective
Bureau, 444-0151 or 444-0100.

Thank you

Det. Bob Schumann 3096/302
444-0151

Holy crap. Had I known they had that kind of loot I might have considered this job myself.

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Posted this yesterday. Copy of email sent from the StLPD. Seems as if these thugs are getting bolder and bolder. They just walk in without a hood or mask. Someone has to identify these thugs.

Per the authority of Capt. Ronnie Robinson, DSN 3702. Please disseminate
to all commissioned personnel.


The depicted pictures are of the Robbery 1st that occurred at Target
4255 Hampton on 7-30-10 at 4:11PM, per complaint #10-43419.

The subject in the yellow Polo shirt showed the cashier a dark colored
pistol in his waistband and took $1637.00 in cash. He is described as a
black male 28-33 years old, 6'0" to 6'2" 180-200lbs. He had a gold watch
and a Bluetooth earpiece.

The subject in the white muscle t-shirt and braids was seen entering the
store with the above suspect. He left the store prior to the robbery.

Both subjects fled in a dark colored 4door vehicle, possibly a Pontiac
Bonneville. The vehicle had white letters at the top of the rear window.
It also had a sunroof with an air deflector on top. The vehicle can be
seen fleeing the area south on Hampton.

Anyone with information please contact the Second District Detective
Bureau, 444-0151 or 444-0100.

Thank you

Det. Bob Schumann 3096/302
444-0151

The problem is, if caught they know they will get a slap on the wrist and wont do any time.

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

Downtown2007 wrote:The problem is, if caught they know they will get a slap on the wrist and wont do any time.

An armed robbery gets you a "slap on the wrist"? Seriously? Where do people come up with this stuff?

Yeah I think sentences that have been handed out have been far too lenient, but assuming all armed robbers get a "slap on the wrist" is being overly simplistic and is the kind of rhetoric I expect to see on STL Today comment boards.

Body found on Russell near Jefferson.... Yikes!!

Anyone have more info? I'm working on it.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 78c22.html

Early word from police source....The woman was a prostitute.

southsidepride wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:An armed robbery gets you a "slap on the wrist"? Seriously? Where do people come up with this stuff?

Yeah I think sentences that have been handed out have been far too lenient, but assuming all armed robbers get a "slap on the wrist" is being overly simplistic and is the kind of rhetoric I expect to see on STL Today comment boards.

I realize home burglary is not the same as armed robbery of a Target store but ....
After I confronted a burglar in my home I was able to give police a description of the burglar AND the license number of the car he was driving. They caught the guy (miracle!?!) and I easily "picked him out of a lineup" (that process is NOTHING like they show on TV, btw.) He was arrested and brought before a judge. He admitted being in my house but told the judge his car had broken down (in my driveway? with the trunk open?) and he was in MY house "looking for a phone". Astonishingly, the judge *believed* that story and charges were dismissed. No explanation given for how a broken-down car was able to squeal out of my driveway and down the street at lightening speed.

southsidepride wrote:Yeah I think sentences that have been handed out have been far too lenient, but assuming all armed robbers get a "slap on the wrist" is being overly simplistic and is the kind of rhetoric I expect to see on STL Today comment boards.

I would be inclined to agree with that. But then I found out about the Missouri statute that allows for a suspended imposition of sentence, a gift that gets handed out to felons in the City of St. Louis far too often.

Here are several links to information about the use of the SIS in Missouri, Googled for your convenience.

You'd think a crime this brazen would be a slam dunk for prosecutors. In most places, yes. Here, I'm not so sure.

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:These are generally handed out for DWI's and drug cases, NOT armed robbery.

I realize that's true for many cases. But just last fall, someone I knew was killed by a lowlife that just months before this incident received an SIS for violating his first SIS. Both incidents prior to the homicide were felony weapons charges. Perhaps if the city's courts system wasn't a complete joke, an innocent person would still be alive today, her immediate family wouldn't have been terrorized, and the lowlife responsible would have been sitting in prison where he belonged in the first place. So I don't have much faith in the local justice system. Just my admittedly biased opinion, of course.

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Body found on Russell near Jefferson.... Yikes!!

Anyone have more info? I'm working on it.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 78c22.html

I was actually going down Russell to Lafayette Square on my morning run and saw a bus stopped with the driver outside on the phone. I figured it had broken down. On my way back the whole block was taped off with many police cars, so I had to go around the block. Come to find out it was a dead body - driver or passenger probably saw it.

Scary to think about it, but I came very close to finding that body.

speaking of crime:
My garage was just broken into.
The alarm just woke me up.
Took me too long to get out of bed and check it out.
Nothing was taken, but there is no reason why they won't come tomorrow to get what they saw tonight.
It was clear the criminal(s) jumped my privacy fence and exited through the door, going to have to lock the door to slow them down a little.
I was already armed, next time I will be faster.
Ah,city life.

How's this for "slap on the wrist:"

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 78c22.html

steve wrote:How's this for "slap on the wrist:"

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 78c22.html

Great. The trouble is, he was already a convicted felon when he committed the crimes that resulted in an appropriate sentence. Granted, we don't know details about his previous crimes and/or sentences from the article, but here's another example of a felon that was turned loose by the courts to commit more crimes before he finally got what he deserved.

According to casenet, he's been convicted of stealing cars and possessing pot. Pretty run of the mill crimes for your garden-variety criminal. And not particularly indicative of a violent mentality.

[EDIT: Also, he plead guilty to resiting arrest. That may have been violent, but he does have a pretty skimpy record considering how heinously he acted in these robberies.]

Alex Ihnen wrote:I'm not offering a solution here, I recognize that, but we, as a country, lock up way too many people. We need to find another way.

A nice start would be to legalize marijuana (at least).