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Great looking photos, but....
What if the Rams are moving? Does the project proceed without a team? That would never work because the financing is tied to selling PSLs.
What about Earth City/Riverport?
Why this location? Does look cool though, sort of like Heinz Field in Pittsburgh
Are the property owners in that area all on board? Lots of private ground to acquire
What happens to the Dome? Does it stay as a white elephant, mostly vacant?
Can't wait to hear the NFL's, Kroenke's response!
Maybe Kroenke says something like, "Well, had they come to me with this plan in the first place, I'd never worked on the L.A. deal. But now that deal is done, so I'M planning on moving. The STL effort is too little, too late."
What if the Rams are moving? Does the project proceed without a team? That would never work because the financing is tied to selling PSLs.
What about Earth City/Riverport?
Why this location? Does look cool though, sort of like Heinz Field in Pittsburgh
Are the property owners in that area all on board? Lots of private ground to acquire
What happens to the Dome? Does it stay as a white elephant, mostly vacant?
Can't wait to hear the NFL's, Kroenke's response!
Maybe Kroenke says something like, "Well, had they come to me with this plan in the first place, I'd never worked on the L.A. deal. But now that deal is done, so I'M planning on moving. The STL effort is too little, too late."
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^Currently the convention center is highly restricted on what convetions it can attract durring the NFL season. If the Rams leave the dome convention business will grow significantly. The dome would continue to hold large conventions, concerts, meetings, and amateur sports events.
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^Also, from what I've read and heard, they already own a quarter of the land through the LRA. From the tone of the press conference, it sounds as if the rest of the land is owned by friendly organizations (GRG?) who are willing to work on the project. And expect to hear nothing out of Kroenke on this. His way is to never speak up during negotiations. He wants to remain silent to build leverage.
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Got to love the aggressive timetable. I might live long enough to actually see this happen!
What happens when public dollars for this project are seen as competing for other things like N/S Metrolink expansion? Have the proponents already assured such will not be the case?
What happens when public dollars for this project are seen as competing for other things like N/S Metrolink expansion? Have the proponents already assured such will not be the case?
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A Metrolink stop should be implemented into this project. I do not believe that was brought up or mentioned.
All good questions.Northside Neighbor wrote: What if the Rams are moving? Does the project proceed without a team? That would never work because the financing is tied to selling PSLs.
Puke emoji for so many reasons. Riverport cripples with 15,000 people for a concert. Plus it's a lot more filled than the 80's when they proposed a stadium for Bill Bidwill.Northside Neighbor wrote:What about Earth City/Riverport?
Why not?Northside Neighbor wrote:Why this location?
Good question. Hellllooo eminent domain!Northside Neighbor wrote:Are the property owners in that area all on board? Lots of private ground to acquire.
It gets used as Hall #6 (or whatever they call it) year round for conventions.Northside Neighbor wrote:What happens to the Dome? Does it stay as a white elephant, mostly vacant?
Yup.Northside Neighbor wrote:Can't wait to hear the NFL's, Kroenke's response!
So you're staying Stan will be angry we didn't "give up the goods" on the first date?Northside Neighbor wrote:Maybe Kroenke says something like, "Well, had they come to me with this plan in the first place, I'd never worked on the L.A. deal. But now that deal is done, so I'M planning on moving. The STL effort is too little, too late."
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what would happen to the Ashley street power plant? that better not be on the chopping block
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A demo of the Stamping Lofts/FarmWorks seems like it could be particularly problematic if their opposed to selling.chaifetz10 wrote:^Also, from what I've read and heard, they already own a quarter of the land through the LRA. From the tone of the press conference, it sounds as if the rest of the land is owned by friendly organizations (GRG?) who are willing to work on the project. And expect to hear nothing out of Kroenke on this. His way is to never speak up during negotiations. He wants to remain silent to build leverage.
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Quick reactions...
Urbanists are already chirping about too much surface parking.
Preservationists are chirping about loss of historic buildings.
No way a project like this passes muster for use of eminent domain. What is the public purpose?
(Although if I am following this correctly, are they talking about public ownership of the facility?)
Urbanists are already chirping about too much surface parking.
Preservationists are chirping about loss of historic buildings.
No way a project like this passes muster for use of eminent domain. What is the public purpose?
(Although if I am following this correctly, are they talking about public ownership of the facility?)
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Impressive and the fact that the ass clowns over at nextstl are already losing it over this makes it soooo much better
I'm pretty sure they mentioned preservation and even renovation.i,Iive,to,draw wrote:what would happen to the Ashley street power plant? that better not be on the chopping block
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They mentioned preservation and "cleaning it up" as they believe it's a very valuable.dweebe wrote:I'm pretty sure they mentioned preservation and even renovation.i,Iive,to,draw wrote:what would happen to the Ashley street power plant? that better not be on the chopping block
Peacock mentioned that there are currently 2 metrolink stops servicing this location which was one of many reasons this location was chosen.DogtownBnR wrote:A Metrolink stop should be implemented into this project. I do not believe that was brought up or mentioned.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... d233b.html
I think it's great that we've proposed something, but this is not redevelopment. This is erasing. This land will be essentially unusable except for games and events. It will be just as lifeless as it is currently around the dome. The only problem is this will be on our riverfront where there should be the most activity."Our vision is a redevelopment of the North Riverfront. … There's green area, there's trailways, there's pathways."
Site preparation would begin by June, according to the plan. The stadium would open for the 2020 NFL season.
Peacock said the plan would eradicate blight and turn the area into a crown jewel. Thirty-three buildlings are in the project area, and a majority are vacant, he said. The city owns one-fourth of the land. The plan preserves the 1902 Power and Light Building.
Redevelopment of this area is imperative for the health of the St. Louis community, he said.
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While it's more politic to talk about how this project continues the revitalization of "downtown", I think it would be even better to talk about how this project expands the city's revitalization to the Northside.
This project and the Stan Span should all pay dividends toward furthering the revitalization of North City/McKeetown.
It looks more and more like the future of St. Louis is moving north. A project like this could help that happen faster.
This project and the Stan Span should all pay dividends toward furthering the revitalization of North City/McKeetown.
It looks more and more like the future of St. Louis is moving north. A project like this could help that happen faster.
Well, it would make a great spot for the Gypsy Caravan!This land will be essentially unusable except for games and events. I
Ha! Can we expect car people to walk that far then and save some buildings?moorlander wrote:Peacock mentioned that there are currently 2 metrolink stops servicing this location which was one of many reasons this location was chosen.DogtownBnR wrote:A Metrolink stop should be implemented into this project. I do not believe that was brought up or mentioned.
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^ about 1/2 mile from the Landing/Arch stop.,,, not too bad and maybe they can run golf carts to shuttle the non-waling masses.
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At least one alderman has already said this plan will never happen.
It makes you wonder whether these sorts of schemes line up political support before going public, or if they just put them out there and deal with the reaction later.
Who's plan is this, anyway? Nixon's?
It makes you wonder whether these sorts of schemes line up political support before going public, or if they just put them out there and deal with the reaction later.
Who's plan is this, anyway? Nixon's?
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6 structured parking garages and space in the bottle district for a 7th.
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