^Awesome - looks like a lot of fun and a great view. Love projects without any tax incentives!
The app says “Coming Soon”stlurbanist wrote: ↑Oct 12, 2023I thought it was already open! Their web site also had hours and tuesday promotion.jshank83 wrote: ↑Oct 11, 2023Topgolf looks done. All the driving range area seems to be complete. Bags holding edges down are removed. They have ball collectors at the end for shots that go in the far drop off.
Looks like the hitting bays are done also. I can’t imagine much is left. I’m surprised we haven’t heard an opening date yet.
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Welcome to St. Louis, @Topgolf ! The Midtown location with @GatewayArchSTL views is expected to attract 600,000 customers and generate $2 million in sales tax each year.
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Welcome to St. Louis, @Topgolf ! The Midtown location with @GatewayArchSTL views is expected to attract 600,000 customers and generate $2 million in sales tax each year.
^ that sales tax from this and Target are likely going to exceed $5M annually in new sales tax. Not including payroll.
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So they expect each person to spend about $33 or $20,000,000 in revenue
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It's pretty easy to exceed that amount by quite a bit every single time you go from my experience. Should be pretty successful.
I'm having a brain fart: but is the Top Golf tax abated in any way?addxb2 wrote: ↑Oct 20, 2023^ that sales tax from this and Target are likely going to exceed $5M annually in new sales tax. Not including payroll.
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This is great. Hoping all this development leads a greater % of SLU students to view StL as a place they could make home.
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I heard there were no incentives issued of any kind for TopGolf. That was a few years ago though and direct from Brooks Goedecker.
The assessment went from $1,549,700 in 2022 to $3,034,430, but that's just the land. Commercial improvements are $0.00. Maybe because it hadn't opened yet, idk.
Correct, no incentives used.quincunx wrote: ↑Oct 22, 2023The assessment went from $1,549,700 in 2022 to $3,034,430, but that's just the land. Commercial improvements are $0.00. Maybe because it hadn't opened yet, idk.
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I take metrolink on weekdays during rush hour and I have not seen any action so far. Could it be that once the weather warms up there would be more people and also am not sure about their hours.jshank83 wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2024Anyone know how it is doing so far?
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My company has organized a few happy hours / team building events there. I’m hopeful they get a good amount of corporate events there.
Every time I pass by it's pretty busy. Went on a Thursday about a month ago and there were only a couple open bays
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Once the weather breaks they'll pick up.
If you're on their email and text lists you might notice how the promotions and communications slow down spring/summer/fall and then are nearly constant when the weather gets not good.
If you're on their email and text lists you might notice how the promotions and communications slow down spring/summer/fall and then are nearly constant when the weather gets not good.
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I went to CTG last night. Great time, great views, TONS of security in the lot. There was a guy on foot, 2 cars and a City PD camera system at the entrance. I spoke with my server and she told me the following.... CTG crowds started out slower than anticipated in October, early Nov. Crowds were great in December. Jan and Feb were slow, but (w/the exception of warm weather locations) the coldest winter months are the slowest time of year nationwide. She said they are expecting a huge bump in crowds this spring and summer with Cardinals games and other events. This place will pick up steam in my opinion. Last night, the middle level where I was, was very busy. I could see balls flying from the 1st level, not so much from the top level. I think the area as a whole looked great. I hope the momentum keeps up. It's amazing what new streets, sidewalks and curbs can do for an area.
Oh great, private equity got their claws into Top Golf. Say goodbye in 3...2...
I mean it doesn't seem like Callaway has been doing a great job as it is.
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They are also getting undercut by a ton of different players entering the field. They used to be destinations but copycats keep opening up and siphoning players while the concept simultaneously just isn't as compelling as it used to be.
If Top Golf ends up closing it's city location (which I suspect isn't performing well just going by it regularly) I could easily see another operator starting up in there and offering a much cheaper experience because they didn't have to build the damn thing
If Top Golf ends up closing it's city location (which I suspect isn't performing well just going by it regularly) I could easily see another operator starting up in there and offering a much cheaper experience because they didn't have to build the damn thing
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I have been to the mid town location 3 - 4 times, and brought new guests who really enjoyed it. I sincerely want this (and all city businesses) to succeed.