Ballpark Village Towers and Mixed Use Project

debaliviere · PostJul 26, 2005#762005-07-26T17:56+00:00

I think that's one of the earlier renderings - it seems like there has been a few different versions, but regardless, all of them were just suggestions.

Once we see renderings released by Cordish, the developer, then we'll have a much better idea of what the village will look like.

soulardd · PostJul 26, 2005#772005-07-26T20:00+00:00

I think that it would be awesome if the village ended up looking like that rendering. Who knows whether there will really be a nice looking, tall, modern tower like that but I really think that something of that magnitude would go a long way to show people that the city is back in a big way.

(Along with the two new towers in the bottle district and the new pinnacle tower.)

comandantecero · PostJul 26, 2005#782005-07-26T20:42+00:00

from the way Cordish made it sound, it seems the new incarnation will be more retail heavy (while this rendering seems to show a lot of residential/office buildings). That rendering does look cool, hopefully they keep the dense configuration.

debaliviere · PostJul 26, 2005#792005-07-26T20:53+00:00

^

Yeah, it's weird - the Cardinals and Cardinal broadcasters seem to be singing a different tune from Cordish. I keep hearing on broadcasts and on radio shows that they want apartments that overlook the ballpark for a Wrigleyville feel.

suburban lou · PostJul 26, 2005#802005-07-26T21:07+00:00

Actually from the latest article I read it seems like it will be more residential Cordish wants to build between 500-1000 units

xing · PostJul 26, 2005#812005-07-26T23:29+00:00

It would be nice, being that Sea World is of Anheuser Busch, if they created a Seaworld Aquarium. It seems to make sense. The Ballpark Village might be a good location.

smsplanstu · PostJul 27, 2005#822005-07-27T02:41+00:00

Xing,

You're on to something that I and probably many others did not even contemplate, a Seaworld Aquarium when they usually do theme parks. I guess it would be bigger than a Ripley's Believe it or not, and I hope better too. I've been to two Ripley's and that's enough, a Seaworld version would be attractive and is already an established name with a following.

The residential needs to be urban and plentiful with maybe 200+ units to a square block.

debaliviere · PostJul 27, 2005#832005-07-27T12:53+00:00

If Cleveland can have a Sea World, why can't we?

southcitygent · PostJul 27, 2005#842005-07-27T17:11+00:00

I thought the Sea World in Ohio closed several years ago.

jeffrk · PostJul 27, 2005#852005-07-27T17:20+00:00

I thought the Sea World in Ohio closed several years ago.

Well, sort of. Back in 2002 (I think!) Sea World was purchased by Six Flags, who then owned Six Flags Ohio, which was across the lake. Six Flags then changed the name to "Six Flags Worlds of Adventure," which was purchased last year by the Cedar Fair corporation. Currently, the former Sea World Ohio site is turning into a large water park (Wildwater Kingdom), across from and part of "Geauga Lake" amusement park, which was the original name before it was purchased years ago. Confused?

http://www.geaugalake.com/

m2tbone · PostJul 27, 2005#862005-07-27T22:57+00:00

^

That makes perfect sense to me. I was about to tell it about the same way, but you beat me to it.

vpr611 · PostAug 20, 2005#872005-08-20T17:27+00:00

Does anyone know if there are any plans to give the ugly old parking garages a facelift when ballpark village gets going? I wouldn?t think it would be that hard to remodel the outside of the parking garages to look more like the stadium or just to give them a more modern look. Maybe they could even give up some parking spaces for some additional street level retail.

tb1000 · PostAug 20, 2005#882005-08-20T18:07+00:00

I don't think there will be a need for any additional retail space in that vicinity considering that Ballpark Village will have a lot of it.

In regards to the condos that are proposed, I wonder if they will have patios with chair back seating on them. That would be awesome!

stlmike · PostAug 20, 2005#892005-08-20T18:54+00:00

^ In a downtown area, there should be very few blocks without retail. Change the damn lots to garages with retail ground floors.

chesterfieldkid03 · PostAug 25, 2005#902005-08-25T17:22+00:00

While substantial office development has taken place in the western suburbs, new development also is planned for the central business district (CBD) downtown market of St. Louis. Baltimore-based The Cordish Company has been named as the developer of Ball Park Village, which will occupy 12 acres of ground next to the new ballpark currently under construction. The new stadium is scheduled to open for the 2006 Cardinal season. ?The completion of this piece of the stadium redevelopment will significantly change the CBD skyline and add a new dimension to attract Class A office tenants to downtown St. Louis,? he says.

Link.....

http://www.heartlandrebusiness.com/arti ... shot1.html

markinlondon · PostSep 13, 2005#912005-09-13T13:04+00:00

With all this excitement over the Bottle District renderings, I can?t wait to see the Ballpark Village renderings! Imagine how we are all going to react to this one. I personally think that this project has the best chance of long term success and will be a pillar in downtowns comeback. I just hope Cordish has some excellent designs and is able to maximize the potential. Condos with a view of the field should sell for top dollar in a baseball crazy city like this. The village should also get a lot of free publicity during the games. IMO this will help to ensure the long term success of the team by generating income in non-traditional ways. I can?t wait till 2008 with so many projects being completed!

Expat · PostSep 13, 2005#922005-09-13T13:19+00:00

^No kidding! I can't wait to see what they have planned. I have faith in Cordish - they know how to build places that appeal to people.

courtland · PostSep 13, 2005#932005-09-13T16:29+00:00

Gosh this is an exciting time to be living in the "Lou".. when will you be joining us Expat?

fountboy · PostSep 13, 2005#942005-09-13T17:06+00:00

Hey I just thought of this. Might be pretty cheezy but hey it could be a landmark someday. Make a residential tower at the Village a glass baseball ball with the butt of the bat as the top of the building, and make the round butt a panoramic restraunt or club like the top of the Palms in Las Vegas or something?

Just a thought that came to my head.

midcoaststl · PostSep 13, 2005#952005-09-13T17:34+00:00

Any ideas of a time frame of when we might see these renderings?

Expat · PostSep 13, 2005#962005-09-13T18:05+00:00

courtland wrote:Gosh this is an exciting time to be living in the "Lou".. when will you be joining us Expat?

Courtland, thanks for asking. This is indeed an exciting time to be living in the Lou. You guys are very lucky to have front row seats as St. Louis explodes in a way I have never seen before. Unfortunately, we have hit some roadblocks that prevent me from joining you in the near future. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and I have found that being absent makes the heart grow fonder. It is driving me crazy not to be there. But one of these days, I will go from being an Expat to be a Repat.....

(Fountboy, you are thinking outside the box

)

thewayofthearch · PostSep 14, 2005#972005-09-14T04:28+00:00

fountboy wrote:Hey I just thought of this. Might be pretty cheezy but hey it could be a landmark someday. Make a residential tower at the Village a glass baseball ball with the butt of the bat as the top of the building, and make the round butt a panoramic restraunt or club like the top of the Palms in Las Vegas or something?

Just a thought that came to my head.

Check this out-this is the new Mayoral Residence of London:

Pretty Cool!

Go to the site and check out the interior...whoooaa....[/img]

markinlondon · PostSep 14, 2005#982005-09-14T13:38+00:00

I like your glass baseball bat building idea fountboy. I would love to see the ballpark village with a modern twist to the design, however I suspect it will be a more traditional design which compliments the new stadium.

The city hall is one of my favorite buildings in London. I attended a wedding on the top floor of that building. Here?s another one of my favorites in London, the Gerkin building. Old and new buildings blend together quite well in London.

fountboy · PostSep 14, 2005#992005-09-14T18:30+00:00

I agree, those were a few of my fav buildings when I saw them studying abroad. I think it would be cool to start mixing modern glass; ie My baseball bat idea and BD towers mixed with the cool old architecture we have in stl. That in my mind makes a city look and feel much more sophisticated as it does with London.

Expat · PostSep 14, 2005#1002005-09-14T19:12+00:00

^I agree Fountboy. When a city is daring enough to mix things up like that, it sends a message of confidence and sophistication.

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