jlblues wrote:Actually, yes there is. Their ability to obtain financing, and the city to sell bonds, has changed drastically for the worse. Retailers are much more conservative in signing new leases now than they were 1 year ago. And the housing market...no need to say anything there. And, frankly, this whole debacle I'm sure isn't going to instill a whole lot of faith in anyone thinking of financing or investing in this project.SShoe wrote:I also think people need to relax. We had a major mixed-use project planned for that site well before Centene showed any interest. At this point, there is no reason that Cordish can't go back to the original phase one development plans they had six months ago (Redevelopment Agreement 1) and effectively start construction tomorrow.
If Cordish had a signed redevelopment agreement, general contractor signed, all the construction documents fairly complete, had letters of intent from retail tenants, financing secured, and the city was ready to sell bonds, the day after Busch II came down, then we could very well be seeing some retail opening up by now, or a few months from now. There is a reason Cordish never signed the redevelopment agreement. They were never satisfied with the deal, and they certainly aren't now.
phoaddict wrote:I was also thinking about writing him (Mayor Slay) a speech to read to the people of St. Louis about having passion hope and unity, that he would give on a specified date (much like a state of the union address)...
Something like that perhaps?"We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and the oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender...to Cordish.
With all apologies due Winston.jlblues wrote:I don't think anyone was that optimistic. I believe the current bet is that BPV will have broken ground by page 300.innov8ion wrote:Additionally, this makes 6 pages in one day for this thread. If BPV will be up by page 300 as many posit, they better hurry up with negotiations!
phoaddict wrote:Magnatron wrote:Has anyone ever officially invited the Mayor to join this forum??? Might get some good ideas and pointers by reading from it...
I was thinking of doing that very thing...
I was also thinking about writing him a speech to read to the people of St. Louis about having passion hope and unity, that he would give on a specified date (much like a state of the union address)... I think the people of greater st. louis need a face, or leader that can actually lead.
goat314 wrote:Thanks Debaliviere, I'm only a junior in college and I'm down here at Florida State University but I plan to comeback to St. Louis for the cause when I finish my masters in Urban & Regional Planning. I think St. Louis is in serious need of some young blood. Thats what its gonna take for this region to change. We need all the old codgers to die off so young progressive minded people can change. I don't know if you have ever heard of Kwame Building group, but the owner of that is a family friend and I plan to do some work with them when I get out of school. I've been all around the country and feel like St. Louis has ridiculous potential, because it was intended to be a world class city. I just wanted people to be aware, because I truly believe people in St. Louis care they just don't know where to vent their ideas. This is the perfect place in my humble opinion.
Sometimes I wonder if settling in a plot of land in wyoming would be a better option than devoting my emotions and anxiety to a city that couldn't give a damn about itself. This is what's holding me back from coming back home. (and also the reason for many emigrants - just read the stltoday forum from all the angry responses of centene) People would come back, and they all desperately want to come back to their home town (i think stl really grows into the hearts of people), but why would they want to deal with same-old same-old politics and anti-progression.
dweebe wrote: Cards president Bill DeWitt III tried to spin the delay saying the construction during the All Star game will say "We're building and come back when we're finished."
Heh, if you have youthful energy you can't retire to Wyoming or an uninhabited island just yet. You've got to learn to navigate the bureaucratic waters inherent in any civic activity. I think that's the trick of life; to not become jaded as you age. Stay positive, persevere, pick your battles, excel at networking, don't burn bridges, be selfless, listen, etc. Who cares if others are negative? Don't let it keep you from accomplishing what is in your heart and drives you.phoaddict wrote:I feel the same way as you. But also, I think it would help the cause if you continue to get experience from other cities (if not countries)....that's what I'm plannign to do at least. I graduated last year from school....
But I have the same feelings of youthful energy. But sadly as inno8ion has stated, it's not so black and white all the time, which i'm learning, and there are a lot of D!CKS in this world.
Magnatron wrote:dweebe wrote:I love this picture.
I am totally gonna make a postcard outta that. caption on the back will say "The majestic Saint Louis Arch overlooks the brand new Ball Pit Village"
innov8ion wrote:Heh, if you have youthful energy you can't retire to Wyoming or a uninhabited island just yet. You've got to learn to navigate the bureaucratic waters inherent in any civic activity. I think that's the trick of life; to not become jaded as you age. Stay positive, persevere, pick your battles, excel at networking, don't burn bridges, be selfless, listen, etc. Who cares if others are negative? Don't let it keep you from accomplishing what is in your heart and drives you.
If you want to seriously effect change in St. Louis, don't just come on here to complain or BS about how think things should be. Assess your skills and interests. Take a look at the various avenues to make a difference and help improve the city in measurable ways. Every little bit counts and grassroots support is how good cities become great.
I hope this wasn't too corny but I think it's important to consider.
I like this idea. We should make an event out of it. A BBQ, a float in Pujols Pond, and a wiffleball game in "Ballpark Village".Magnatron wrote:I think we should go to all the Cards games, and stand outside and picket... that or start our own protest game of wiffleball in the BallPit Village. Maybe it would catch on and people would come from miles around to wach our wiffleball games.... We could start a league.
jlblues wrote:I like this idea. We should make an event out of it. A BBQ, a float in Pujols Pond, and a wiffleball game in "Ballpark Village".Magnatron wrote:I think we should go to all the Cards games, and stand outside and picket... that or start our own protest game of wiffleball in the BallPit Village. Maybe it would catch on and people would come from miles around to wach our wiffleball games.... We could start a league.
The great thing about it is, if you get enough people to do it, it would get a ton of press coverage. And, they may arrest one or two people to make an example out of them, but there is safety in numbers, i.e. get a couple hundred people or so and what are they going to do, arrest them all? Plus, with all the press coverage, they would probably drop the charges anyway...maybe.
So what do we say...opening day?
jlblues wrote:I like this idea. We should make an event out of it. A BBQ, a float in Pujols Pond, and a wiffleball game in "Ballpark Village".Magnatron wrote:I think we should go to all the Cards games, and stand outside and picket... that or start our own protest game of wiffleball in the BallPit Village. Maybe it would catch on and people would come from miles around to wach our wiffleball games.... We could start a league.
The great thing about it is, if you get enough people to do it, it would get a ton of press coverage. And, they may arrest one or two people to make an example out of them, but there is safety in numbers, i.e. get a couple hundred people or so and what are they going to do, arrest them all? Plus, with all the press coverage, they would probably drop the charges anyway...maybe.
So what do we say...opening day?
