I just saw new renderings and they showed three buildings an average of probably 100-130 meters tall and another at about 70-80 meters. I dont know why ur complaining 2tall
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Yes, 300-390 feet is like comparing the Civil Courts building and older SBC building (AT&T?) while the 210-240 is more like the mansion house (guessing).
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Yep thats right cuz the mansion house buildings are 80 meters each and multiply it by three and u get about 240 feet. (after conversions)
Actually, the three Mansion House towers are all 285 feet, which I am not sure of in meters. Probably about 86. The civil courts is 386' and SW Bell 399'. 210-240' would be comparable to the Pet Building's elevator shaft at 216 feet I believe.
I'm only complaining because I feel as if they released the renderings and they will not actually build what they showed. The two taller towers in the renderings are around 30-35 floors and the tallest one possible 40+. The the old Busch, the improvements to the interstate, removal of the ramp, and I'm sure some of the new stadium was payed for by you, the tax payer, so I would hope you would all have high expectations for this project.
If they are only building a two 22 story towers then try inmagining a couple more Marriott hotels(the shorter one). The new Renaissance Hotel tower is 22 stories and some people didn't even know it was built. I don't call 22 floors too impressive.
I'm only complaining because I feel as if they released the renderings and they will not actually build what they showed. The two taller towers in the renderings are around 30-35 floors and the tallest one possible 40+. The the old Busch, the improvements to the interstate, removal of the ramp, and I'm sure some of the new stadium was payed for by you, the tax payer, so I would hope you would all have high expectations for this project.
If they are only building a two 22 story towers then try inmagining a couple more Marriott hotels(the shorter one). The new Renaissance Hotel tower is 22 stories and some people didn't even know it was built. I don't call 22 floors too impressive.
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1) I knew Texas was like its own country, but I didn't know they used Metric system.
2) Only about 65 million of botht the stadium and BP village is public money. 40 mil in a county loan, to be repaid through a hospitality tax, and 15 million for ramp removal and replacement for I-64. The Loan is earmarked for infrastructure and utilities improvements...so whatever the build has very very little to do with taxpayer money. However, the new Renaissance tower was built in a highrise rich environment. These, regardless of their end hieght, will be a former void so to speak, so they will be much more prominent. I wouldn't imagine anyone missing theses new ones.
2) Only about 65 million of botht the stadium and BP village is public money. 40 mil in a county loan, to be repaid through a hospitality tax, and 15 million for ramp removal and replacement for I-64. The Loan is earmarked for infrastructure and utilities improvements...so whatever the build has very very little to do with taxpayer money. However, the new Renaissance tower was built in a highrise rich environment. These, regardless of their end hieght, will be a former void so to speak, so they will be much more prominent. I wouldn't imagine anyone missing theses new ones.
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No i only use the metric system cuz iv'e been on Emporis for a while and they use metric, plus i just like it better.
And yes Texas is basically its own country. Thats why i really don't like it. The people here are so arrogant.
And yes Texas is basically its own country. Thats why i really don't like it. The people here are so arrogant.
I believe there's a void downtown for a great brewpub. What do people think about a nice brewpub in Ballpark Village akin to Trailhead Brewery or Rock Bottom? This seems to be a perfect fit here... Or maybe WashAve?
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^^^ been to the tap room? it's a bit out of the action, but down town none the less.
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There's also Morgan St Brewery but I'd hardly call it a "great" brewpub...
and Square One BRewery in Lafayette Square.
Morgan Street is actually a pretty good brewpub...they make a great Honey Wheat
Morgan Street is actually a pretty good brewpub...they make a great Honey Wheat
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Rock bottom is a really good, well done place. I wouldn't mind one in the heart of DT.
innov8ion wrote:I believe there's a void downtown for a great brewpub. What do people think about a nice brewpub in Ballpark Village akin to Trailhead Brewery or Rock Bottom? This seems to be a perfect fit here... Or maybe WashAve?
Man! I haven't even thought of Rock Bottom Brewery forever! That makes me think of the Wynkoop Brewery and rail yard ale. We have some great breweries here but I wouldn't mind having a bit of Denver injected into ball park village!
I'd like to check out the Tap Room and the others mentioned. Even still, these brewpubs aren't within walking distance to the heart of downtown. I'm sure there will be some dispute but I basically characterize the heart of downtown inside the center of a radius including Savvis, Busch and the Edward Jones Dome. This isn't to discriminate against the many fabulous areas of our city... And I truly hope that progress along Washington Avenue continues westward to the developments around 20th.
mophipsi wrote:and Square One BRewery in Lafayette Square.
Morgan Street is actually a pretty good brewpub...they make a great Honey Wheat
And I truly hope that progress along Washington Avenue continues westward to the developments around 20th.
You haven't spent much time down here, have you? Think Jefferson now . . . Compton next year.
Anyone know if Clark St. will be open for pedestrians from 8th to Broadway for opening day? Based on the KMOV webcam it seems to be progressing nicely.
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The construction is going along pretty quickly now, but I don't think Clark street will be open when the stadium opens. If they are lucky they'll have some sidewalks on the north side of the stadium by next month.
Edit: Checked it out today. Curb and gutter has been poured on both sides of the street and crews were working on the south side of the street.
Edit: Checked it out today. Curb and gutter has been poured on both sides of the street and crews were working on the south side of the street.
Any news on a list of tenants for BPV? It should be interesting to see how it all shakes out with the Bottle District.
I heard they [Cordish] were going more "family-friendly" than their typical urban projects - anyone have specifics?
I heard they [Cordish] were going more "family-friendly" than their typical urban projects - anyone have specifics?
keer5771 wrote:Any news on a list of tenants for BPV?
You can count me in as a residential tenant. I've been saving my pennies since this thing was announced, and I'll be first in line. I think this will be an opportunity of a lifetime for a STL ball fan to live in a residential space with views of the ball field. Outstanding!
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You can count me in as a residential tenant. I've been saving my pennys since this thing was announced, and I'll be first in line. I think this will be an opportunity of a lifetime for a STL ball fan to live in a residential space with views of the ball field. Outstanding!
You better be saving more than pennies to afford a unit facing the balpark. Those things are probably going to cost a fortune. Have they announced any prices yet?
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someone a few pages back suggested a resteraunt wher homers 62 & 70 landed ....
not only is it a great idea - but think about this. They could have a "Mcgwire Burger" with a byline like this:
"contains no artificial additives. Seriously. we mean it."
not only is it a great idea - but think about this. They could have a "Mcgwire Burger" with a byline like this:
"contains no artificial additives. Seriously. we mean it."
Conurbation wrote: You better be saving more than pennies to afford a unit facing the balpark. Those things are probably going to cost a fortune. Have they announced any prices yet?
No, stuff downtown is steadily going up in price, so I think they're reluctant to announce anything now in fear of showing their hand too early. I'm assuming that prices for a unit with a view of the field will generally be equal to or slightly greater than penthouse prices at other downtown developments. So right now, that would equate to about $250 a sq foot. Hopefully, they'll price them within reach. I certainly don't mind paying a premium, but I won't get ridiculous (well, maybe).
loftlover wrote:I certainly don't mind paying a premium, but I won't get ridiculous (well, maybe).
Not to rain on your parade, but I think you will have to get ridiculous if you want a unit with a good stadium view. You'll be competing with companies all over the area buying units for thier executives and business meetings and such. I'm pretty sure AB might buy a couple. I'd guess prices will easily be $300+/sq. ft. I could be wrong, though.
The views from the top of the Pavilion towers are so amazing. I'd guess the price per sf for the new construction will go much higher than $300.
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speaking of the premium that one could command for those views - is anyone suprised that they decided to go for such short buildings? The design as planned doesn't seem to maximize units with a view of the ball field. A few of them are set back and they have only 10 or so floors with stadium views .... one would think that they would plan taller buildings right against the stadium .....