Those in situ architectural relics would look great in a loft...I hope they can keep them.
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I saw these pics from a recent walk-through posted on Reddit this morning: http://imgur.com/a/6wcZS#0
I love the Old Post Office view from one of those windows!
I love the Old Post Office view from one of those windows!
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Any word on this? Is construction in progress? Same for Alexa?
Still no word? Is it possible it has become harder for them to secure financing since the announcement of AT&T closing?
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The amended Redevelopment Plan with the city went into effect December 6. I wouldn't be too worried just yet.
irock, ATT has been emptying One Center for years of workers who have either been bought out, telecommuting and/or relocated like my wife. Employees who didn't live downtown and for all practical purposes are not moving downtown. Simply put, they don't need that much space and moving employees to the building over. On top of things, the biggest impact was well over a year ago was ATT selling yellow pages to a private equity group. I Don't think it is nothing new to the developers of Arcade and doubt very much it is the reason for any delays
In addition, same thing is happening to a lot of ATT space. My wife was informed that she her position will become full time telecommuting with no office or cubicle. A week later or so, ATT announced the sale of their big Northern California regional office in San Ramon, CA with very little lease back.
If anything, One Center might be very attractive for some tech move ups and/or a major investment bank back office relocations. Both hiring employees that might be much more inclined to also live downtown.
In addition, same thing is happening to a lot of ATT space. My wife was informed that she her position will become full time telecommuting with no office or cubicle. A week later or so, ATT announced the sale of their big Northern California regional office in San Ramon, CA with very little lease back.
If anything, One Center might be very attractive for some tech move ups and/or a major investment bank back office relocations. Both hiring employees that might be much more inclined to also live downtown.
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I'm not panicked yet but this is a key marker of whether or not 2014 is merely a mixed year or a great year for downtown.Presbyterian wrote:The amended Redevelopment Plan with the city went into effect December 6. I wouldn't be too worried just yet.
I believe Arcade, Chemical and Blues Museum are all intended to get started this year and if we go 3 for 3 on these it will be a pretty incredible 2014. If not, we'll need some unexpected progress elsewhere. BPV and Tower OPOP, etc. will be nice but more is definitely needed.
Yes this is what i am hoping for also.dredger wrote:If anything, One Center might be very attractive for some tech move ups and/or a major investment bank back office relocations. Both hiring employees that might be much more inclined to also live downtown.
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Any insight into the Chemical and Station Plaza projects?Presbyterian wrote:The amended Redevelopment Plan with the city went into effect December 6. I wouldn't be too worried just yet.
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Chemical Building is moving forward. They were negotiating with the city to get reserved parking in the city garage across the street. LandWhite is the developer, and I believe they hope to start construction in the next month or so.
Station Plaza is still early. I'll see if I can find any updates.
Station Plaza is still early. I'll see if I can find any updates.
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^ thanks much.... the last update I saw at the Post-Dispatch for Chemical was in Oct. where the owners were looking to wrap up a few details and hope to begin construction in three months. Maybe a bit behind schedule, but nothing that was alarming.
What is the station plaza project?roger wyoming II wrote:Any insight into the Chemical and Station Plaza projects?Presbyterian wrote:The amended Redevelopment Plan with the city went into effect December 6. I wouldn't be too worried just yet.
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^ Station Plaza is 1900 Pine that a developer out of Minneapolis wants to turn into residential. I believe it was last offices for Blue Cross or something... tax abatement was approved by HUDZ committee last fall I believe.
OK I'm familiar with this project. I thought it was something that was being proposed in conjunction with the Chemical building, I almost wet myself.roger wyoming II wrote:^ Station Plaza is 1900 Pine that a developer out of Minneapolis wants to turn into residential. I believe it was last offices for Blue Cross or something... tax abatement was approved by HUDZ committee last fall I believe.
Even though it appears downtown is in somewhat of malaise, there is still a lot of residential projects being proposed. We could easily start adding 1000 units/yr before the streetcar even breaks ground. I imagine when the streetcar breaks ground we will see an initial explosion of proposals. It will also bring more retail and solidify downtown as a viable market for more mainstream developers.
Are you talking about just downtown? If you add up all the project, even the ones that are just a proposal. Are the even a 1000 units total over the next 5 years? If we are not adding jobs, what incentive is there to live down here if you have to drive to the county to work?goat314 wrote:We could easily start adding 1000 units/yr before the streetcar even breaks ground.
Sorry the over optimism is nice but sometimes it just is confusing
Hoping im wrong
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-Arcade Building, Downtown, 250 units (proposed)
-Chemical Building, Downtown, 120 units (proposed)
-Roberts Tower, Downtown, 132 units (opening spring 2014)
-Millenium Center, Downtown, 102 units, (proposed)
-Alverne, Downtown, 81 apartments (proposed)
-Butler Bros. Building, Downtown, 342 units (proposed)
-Drury Tower, 30 stories, Laclede's Landing (proposed)
There are over 900 right on this list alone. I also believe I am missing a few. There will be plenty more where these came from. Several of these are directly on the streetcar route.
-Chemical Building, Downtown, 120 units (proposed)
-Roberts Tower, Downtown, 132 units (opening spring 2014)
-Millenium Center, Downtown, 102 units, (proposed)
-Alverne, Downtown, 81 apartments (proposed)
-Butler Bros. Building, Downtown, 342 units (proposed)
-Drury Tower, 30 stories, Laclede's Landing (proposed)
There are over 900 right on this list alone. I also believe I am missing a few. There will be plenty more where these came from. Several of these are directly on the streetcar route.
^^ don't forget about Purina and Anheuser Busch. Even though not downtown, I know a ton of people that live downtown and commute the 1 to 2 miles to work.
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There are plenty of people that live downtown and commute out to the burbs for work. They do it because there is a lot more to living downtown than walking to work or a short commute to work. Benefits like walking distance to bars, restaurants, and sporting events, great living spaces with good amenities, little maintenance (lawn mowing, raking leaves, etc), being a part of the action, accessible public transit, a community feel, and a feeling that you are contributing to making the city and region better.irock7777 wrote:Are you talking about just downtown? If you add up all the project, even the ones that are just a proposal. Are the even a 1000 units total over the next 5 years? If we are not adding jobs, what incentive is there to live down here if you have to drive to the county to work?goat314 wrote:We could easily start adding 1000 units/yr before the streetcar even breaks ground.
Sorry the over optimism is nice but sometimes it just is confusing
Hoping im wrong
Not to mention the fact that some people just enjoy city/downtown living. [EDIT: Actually downtown2007 DID just mention it.] The county certainly didn't get to where it is because by attracting jobs in order to attract residents. It was just the opposite. A lot of people preferred suburban living, so they moved out their and dealt with a commute to work. Eventually work moved to where the people went, but it wasn't always that way.
Why can't it work that way for the city. If people keep moving downtown, jobs will come.
We seem to think about the city needing jobs to attract residents but allow that residents in the suburbs attract jobs. An inadvertent double standard, no?
Why can't it work that way for the city. If people keep moving downtown, jobs will come.
We seem to think about the city needing jobs to attract residents but allow that residents in the suburbs attract jobs. An inadvertent double standard, no?
Your right. But didn't people say this 10 years ago when the lofts first sarted showing up. Its 10 years later and we are still loosing jobs downtown.jstriebel wrote:Why can't it work that way for the city. If people keep moving downtown, jobs will come.
I just compare whats happening in the west end and whats happening downtown. West end is kicking downtowns butt right now. Im staying down here but the midtown/west end looks to have much more momentum
Maybe its just a lul before these downtown projects get going this year.
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Checking up on 1900 Pine, I do see movement. Ownership is now listed as a shell company, even if the sale hasn't yet finalized. That suggests it is moving forward.
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The west end did not decline as far as downtown did. Most of the jobs lost downtown were due to buy-outs.
To bing jobs downtown we have to improve downtown as a whole. (like new streetscapes, super high-speed fiber lines, more rail transit and a modern parking system)
To bing jobs downtown we have to improve downtown as a whole. (like new streetscapes, super high-speed fiber lines, more rail transit and a modern parking system)
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Plus the West End has 3 major advantages over downtown. A world class health facility that draws people almost 24 hours (BJC), Washington Univ, and the CWE is better connected to other neighborhoods.