Air Collaborative isn't even about "climate change".Auggie wrote: ↑May 23, 2025You're right, climate change has nothing to do with the weather. They're totally separate things, obviously.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑May 23, 2025As presumed. It's a DEI type thing. Nothing about sirens or even tornadoes or the weather at all.addxb2 wrote: ↑May 23, 2025Holleman: Emergency staff was in 'collaboration' workshop as tornado neared St. Louis
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... ae0fb.html
An invitation to the workshop, obtained by the Post-Dispatch, said “climate change will continue to create new uncertainties and pose disruptions,” and that the workshop would help participants “learn and develop skills to increase agility and collaboration in city functions” so that employees can “respond nimbly and effectively.”
CEMA served as a workshop co-host of sorts, along with the city’s Planning and Urban Design Agency, sending the invitation to employees from various city departments. On its website, Air Collaborative claims its mission is to provide “programming that inspires new connections and ignites the creative economy.”
https://aircollaborative.org/mission-history/
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When you learn how to read and understand words, you'll see that Air is an organization that hosts things like workshops to help organizations collaborate towards a common goal. In the city's case, some type of unified response with regards to climate change.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑May 23, 2025Air Collaborative isn't even about "climate change".Auggie wrote: ↑May 23, 2025You're right, climate change has nothing to do with the weather. They're totally separate things, obviously.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑May 23, 2025
As presumed. It's a DEI type thing. Nothing about sirens or even tornadoes or the weather at all.
https://aircollaborative.org/mission-history/
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dAuggie, it's DEI Industrial Complex useless garbage. How about a workshop called "how to press the tornado siren". Actually, no response is needed for you. You accomplish everything without me even saying anything. Keep it up.Auggie wrote: ↑May 23, 2025When you learn how to read and understand words, you'll see that Air is an organization that hosts things like workshops to help organizations collaborate towards a common goal. In the city's case, some type of unified response with regards to climate change.
Not even debating the merits of the importance of the workshop, how do you not leave SOMEONE behind to man the post? That's just for a regular old day. They KNEW the potential severity of the storms that day and still didn't have someone there?
That's just crazy.
That's just crazy.
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Is there a time when NWS issues a warning and the sirens aren't supposed to go off? Can anyone explain to me why "the button" even exists or why it isn't controlled by an app that can be accessed from anywhere?
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Good bye Rams money if a lawyer(s) for one or more of the dead peoples’ families can prove the lack of siren notification caused the death.
And rightfully so. Maybe this massive lawsuit will finally put an end to this farcical DEI/climate change collaboration BS that doesn’t mean squat, especially when a tornado watch had been issued hours in advance.
Good night STL, DB and Auggie can turn off the lights
And rightfully so. Maybe this massive lawsuit will finally put an end to this farcical DEI/climate change collaboration BS that doesn’t mean squat, especially when a tornado watch had been issued hours in advance.
Good night STL, DB and Auggie can turn off the lights
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Being a DEI hire or not has nothing to do with incompetence cause human error happens everyday. The fact that we were in a moderate risk for severe weather the workshop should have been rescheduled for another day it’s not like we weren’t just down this road on 314 day. Honestly judging the way someone looks doesn’t mean they are or were an automatic DEI hire. This is the very simple reason why prejudice’s exist cause everyone automatically assumes & even if they were why does it or would it bother anyone if they were? The most important part is if they can do the job & handle the responsibility of that job. She messed up & she knows that now but to go on & be hateful towards anyone is the reason why ignorance has become tolerated. They them she her he him who cares let people live their lives the way they want. This is America the most diverse country on this planet we should be very tolerant of each others differences by now it’s 2025 not 1925. I am woke as heck & I’ll never deviate from that cause I was brought up in a background where you treat everyone with respect dignity and kindness
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Legally, the jury is out. Missouri allows for some protections to municipalities in this space. Willful and malicious intent are required.
Willful: The intentional performance of an act with knowledge that harm is likely to result, or with reckless disregard for the safety or rights of others.
Malicious: Behavior that is intentionally harmful, done with ill will, spite, or for the purpose of causing injury.
The city did send out an alert and they’d rely heavily on the sudden intensification of the storm. “It dropped a tornado on us”
Willful: The intentional performance of an act with knowledge that harm is likely to result, or with reckless disregard for the safety or rights of others.
Malicious: Behavior that is intentionally harmful, done with ill will, spite, or for the purpose of causing injury.
The city did send out an alert and they’d rely heavily on the sudden intensification of the storm. “It dropped a tornado on us”
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“Reckless disregard”…hmmmm…a tornado watch that was issued several hours before by NWS and they still went ahead with a workshop. Sounds guilty.
As for the respect and kindness quote above, we’re talking about people who died here. Leave your feels out of this when it comes to DEATH.
As for the respect and kindness quote above, we’re talking about people who died here. Leave your feels out of this when it comes to DEATH.
This is the main point. The workshop could have been the most important and necessary workshop ever and it still wouldn't justify leaving the tornado sirens button unattended on a day like Friday.
Because the technology hasn't been updated. I read somewhere that they began upgrading then last year but aren't done yet.Black02AltimaSE wrote: ↑May 23, 2025Is there a time when NWS issues a warning and the sirens aren't supposed to go off? Can anyone explain to me why "the button" even exists or why it isn't controlled by an app that can be accessed from anywhere?
It’s definitely a progressive undertone that is not critical to city operations or even building employee capacity. It’s cringe to imagine Sarah Russel so enthusiastic about “creative economy response to global warming” (What does that even mean) that they couldn’t join via Zoom.
Trump moved quick to approve disaster declaration.
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To be fair, this seems to be a standard timeframe for FEMA. Nothing moves quickly with FEMA no matter the administration.
There is a process that has to be followed before we get approved for FEMA funds a you know. My guess is that Schmidt, Hawley & Bell will keep the heat on the administration to get the funds administered. There is NO doubt North STL should be declared a federal disaster area.
My general view was that it takes 1-5 weeks for them to go through the process after aid is requested. 2+ months is way too long, North City really can't wait that long. Hopefully Hawley's inroads with Trump and Schmitt's blind loyalty help move it along faster though.DogtownBnR wrote: ↑May 23, 2025To be fair, this seems to be a standard timeframe for FEMA. Nothing moves quickly with FEMA no matter the administration.
There is a process that has to be followed before we get approved for FEMA funds a you know. My guess is that Schmidt, Hawley & Bell will keep the heat on the administration to get the funds administered. There is NO doubt North STL should be declared a federal disaster area.
The level of response from the STL region has been exceptional. It shouldn’t take a natural disaster. If the region kept this enthusiasm in North STL, you’d be surprised how quickly the regions biggest challenges would disappear.
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I'd love to see the region continue to give north St. Louis this much love, and then work on doing the same for East St. Louis, IL.
Anyway, tornado maps showed that the Illinois side of St. Louis was hit as well. I haven't heard anything about the efforts over there.
Anyway, tornado maps showed that the Illinois side of St. Louis was hit as well. I haven't heard anything about the efforts over there.
Public safety is more than cops, but that's what the state is forcing the city to spend more on.
kSDK - 'We can all fit in one car': Days before deadly tornado, CEMA commissioner asked for additional staffing
https://www.ksdk.com/article/weather/to ... 49a9620235
kSDK - 'We can all fit in one car': Days before deadly tornado, CEMA commissioner asked for additional staffing
https://www.ksdk.com/article/weather/to ... 49a9620235
The Nation - In St. Louis, a Tornado Rips Across an Economic Disaster Area
https://www.thenation.com/article/econo ... -recovery/
https://www.thenation.com/article/econo ... -recovery/
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We still don't have power since our meter base got damaged due to tornado.
1. Most damage was done by the storm after Tornado and not by the actual tornado - did I get it right?
2. Why did so many mature trees get uprooted. Did I miss the discussion on this topic somewhere?
3. Forest park changed forever. Does anyone know how many trees got uprooted there?
1. Most damage was done by the storm after Tornado and not by the actual tornado - did I get it right?
2. Why did so many mature trees get uprooted. Did I miss the discussion on this topic somewhere?
3. Forest park changed forever. Does anyone know how many trees got uprooted there?