It indicates that that is the long-term plan. If they want a TDD for stadium parking at this point, it had better be a public, city-owned garage or there will be an angry mob on their doorstep.wabash wrote: ↑Sep 17, 2020DB, does this language not indicate that their plan is for structured parking?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 10, 2020Here is the letter. Surface parking it is.
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- Master Redevelopment Agreement anticipates establishment of a Transportation Development District (TDD) for multiple transportation purposes, including structured parking
[ul]- TDD petition field in June, 2020 includes City Block 901 within TDD geography
- Applicant indicates intent to pursue construction of mixed-use parking structure in City Block 901
BTW, not that it really matters, but...why is this thread in the Central Corridor forum?
The forum descriptions don't make it clear how downtown is defined. Given the downtown plan covers Downtown West, I guess east of Jefferson should go in the downtown forum.
Or maybe the preservation forum.
Sounds right. A decade or so from now maybe it can be moved to the downtown construction forum...quincunx wrote: ↑Sep 17, 2020Or maybe the preservation forum.
And the thread will be on fire with excitement over a new parking garage!
KMOV had a story on this featuring Mitchell Jorstad. Can't find an online story. Alexis Zotos said the team said maybe the garage with ground retail. She said it might take incentives, not sure if that refers to the TDD or something else/more.
^ I saw that last night. What a world...give us incentives and we MIGHT build a parking garage. How kind!
Stl Public Radio - Monday: Downtown West Demolition Plans Spark Pleas For City To Reconsider
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... reconsider
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... reconsider
KMOV- Petition calls for city to rethink plan to knock down buildings in Downtown West for MLS parking
https://www.kmov.com/news/petition-call ... 37ef0.htmlThe letter goes on to say they anticipate requesting public incentives for the structured parking.
That T-shirt shop (and whatever else was there) was displaced, right? The News 4 report claimed they weren't displaced.
There were open businesses there very recently. I'd assumed they were kicked out.
There were open businesses there very recently. I'd assumed they were kicked out.
If they were there when the buildings were acquired earlier this year, then I think displaced would be accurate.
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Well team spokesman said it’s going to be a surface lot and maybe a garage down the line and that they plan to ask for public incentiveswabash wrote: ↑Sep 17, 2020DB, does this language not indicate that their plan is for structured parking?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 10, 2020Here is the letter. Surface parking it is.
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- Master Redevelopment Agreement anticipates establishment of a Transportation Development District (TDD) for multiple transportation purposes, including structured parking
[ul]- TDD petition field in June, 2020 includes City Block 901 within TDD geography
- Applicant indicates intent to pursue construction of mixed-use parking structure in City Block 901
Think of all the property owners around the perimeter of the stadium and training facility site who want parking for their customers and tenants: Drury, LHM (Union Station), the Fairfield Inn, Stonemont (1831 Chestnut owners), Station Plaza, the CITY SC team, the City of St. Louis, Bi-State Development, and several others.
Imagine a world where all of them agreed to give up or forego their parking garages and surface lots, and then each contributed future sales and property taxes proportionally to build a 2-Level, 1200-space, public parking garage below the practice fields...
Imagine a world where all of them agreed to give up or forego their parking garages and surface lots, and then each contributed future sales and property taxes proportionally to build a 2-Level, 1200-space, public parking garage below the practice fields...
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You need about 300,000 SQ feet of space for 1,200 spot garage. I don’t know if 2 levels will do and you’re also looking at $50,000,000 min cost for an under ground garage with 1,200 spots. You also probably need 5,000 spot garage to fill the demand with about 4-5 time turnover per spot. The new union station was a zoo pre covid. You also need 5,000 spots for mls game days. And finally there is no demand to do anything with those lots right now.urbanitas wrote: ↑Sep 18, 2020Think of all the property owners around the perimeter of the stadium and training facility site who want parking for their customers and tenants: Drury, LHM (Union Station), the Fairfield Inn, Stonemont (1831 Chestnut owners), Station Plaza, the CITY SC team, the City of St. Louis, Bi-State Development, and several others.
Imagine a world where all of them agreed to give up or forego their parking garages and surface lots, and then each contributed future sales and property taxes proportionally to build a 2-Level, 1200-space, public parking garage below the practice fields...
Have they started chewing on the buildings yet?
There will be discussion on the Charlie Brennan show this morning on KMOX.
There will be discussion on the Charlie Brennan show this morning on KMOX.
Andrew Weil of Landmarks Stl was on the Charlie Brennan Show on KMOX. Starts at 21:50
https://omny.fm/shows/charlie-brennan-s ... 020-9-10am
https://omny.fm/shows/charlie-brennan-s ... 020-9-10am
The building on the Pine Street side, was a single-story building, has been demolished.
They can say unremarkable all they want. But even this building could have been reborn or reimagined.
Creativity in this city is dying a slow death.
Creativity in this city is dying a slow death.
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Every year I feel like I become a little less of the bright eyed optimist about this city from when I moved here. I understand the cynics point of view more and more.
We should at least own it. Maybe we should start some kind historic parking lot association? Obviously some of these will be downtown longer than some of these buildings, and these lots deserve attention, too.
