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PostSep 25, 2020#201

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^Wow. That's an impressive human chain. Who knew there were so many preservationists in this town?!  😉
 

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PostSep 25, 2020#202

“May I have your attention everyone, if you are here for the don’t knock this sh*t down protest, it is on the next block over”.

PostSep 28, 2020#203

Demo fencing is up and they plan to have the site cleared by the 10th of October
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PostSep 28, 2020#204

So, to distill:

  • The Pres Board was asked to review the demolition.  Did they? I understand these buildings aren't in a historic district.  But I thought there were two BOA members who requested it.
  • They will be flattened for surface parking initially.
  • Maybe in two years there will be a parking garage here, where the ownership group will ask for subsidies, even though they didn't even have to purchase these to begin with.  They literally could have acquired any of the other lots, if they even tried.  Of course they might not have been for sale, but for the amount they paid on legitimately usable buildings was high.  I would imagine you could have bought any of the other lots for the same.  They don't even have buildings on them.
  • They will institute a 1% TDD tax, regardless of a parking garage being built.
  • They will basically control all commerce at the district.
Is that accurate?

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PostSep 28, 2020#205

^ From PRB member Richard Callow's tweets it hasn't gone before them and he plans to ask CRO about this at the monthly meeting (I think set for later this week) as well as the demo approval on South Jefferson of the MCM "Swank" Building for a Starbucks that apparently the alderperson (Ingrassia) does not support.

(I'm not entirely clear on things but my understanding is CRO had discretion to send over to PRB the 1900 Olive Block demos but wasn't required to do so and chose not to.  Regardless, it's not a good situation.)

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PostOct 01, 2020#207

I guess I'll pour out some liquor for the lost homies...can't wait to see the garage renderings in 10 years!

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PostOct 01, 2020#208

80 years of the same mistake. 

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PostOct 01, 2020#209

Pathetic and embarrassing for our city.

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PostOct 01, 2020#210

Was really hoping the MLS stadium would revitalize stretches like this. My mistake. 

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PostOct 01, 2020#211

Has anyone tweeted @ the MLS team/ownership?  Not that I'd expect any real response, but just curious if it's been done.

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PostOct 01, 2020#212

I haven't seen them comment on the topic on Twitter. Feel free to try yourself.

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PostOct 01, 2020#213

To clarify, many many many people have tagged them in tweets on the subject.  It's not as if they're just waiting for someone to directly send them a question to respond.

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PostOct 01, 2020#214

Yep, I’ve skirted the line or concerned citizen and cyber bully.

I’m almost more disappointed in their lack of response than I am the loss of the buildings. Being a true community partner means answering to both the praise and criticism of your actions.

Ignoring 1500 petition signatures and hundreds of social media mentions tells me they don’t fully respect the community their bulldozing.

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PostOct 01, 2020#215

From Coatar.  He's my alderman so I reached out to him for comment on this as well as other things.  Of course he isn't the alder for the 19th ward, but it is right next door and impacts his I'm sure.

I oppose the demolition of the buildings in the 1900 block of Olive.  I sat in the various committee hearings with the MLS ownership group where they specifically said they have more than enough parking with the nearby surface lots and the structured parking they are building south of Market.  Now they've changed their tune.  Unfortunately, these buildings did not require public input and a hearing in front of the Preservation Board.  I'm currently working on some amendments to the existing Preservation Review Ordinance that would require demolition of qualifying and merit buildings to come to the Preservation Board for demolition approval.  This would ensure that the public knows about these demolitions and has a chance to weigh in through public comment.  It appears the demo of the 1900 block has already started as a type this message.  Full disclosure, this stretch of downtown west is not in my ward and I read about the proposed demolition online like everyone else.  I'm glad someone at least caught it (presumably by checking building permits) before it started.  Hopefully we can avoid situations like this in the future.

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PostOct 01, 2020#216

Good to hear. And glad to hear it confirmed that the team has changed their tune on parking.
Here's a simple preservation review ordinance change- If it's over X years old, it gets reviewed.

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PostOct 01, 2020#217

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From Coatar.  He's my alderman so I reached out to him for comment on this as well as other things.  Of course he isn't the alder for the 19th ward, but it is right next door and impacts his I'm sure.
I oppose the demolition of the buildings in the 1900 block of Olive.  I sat in the various committee hearings with the MLS ownership group where they specifically said they have more than enough parking with the nearby surface lots and the structured parking they are building south of Market.  Now they've changed their tune.  Unfortunately, these buildings did not require public input and a hearing in front of the Preservation Board.  I'm currently working on some amendments to the existing Preservation Review Ordinance that would require demolition of qualifying and merit buildings to come to the Preservation Board for demolition approval.  This would ensure that the public knows about these demolitions and has a chance to weigh in through public comment.  It appears the demo of the 1900 block has already started as a type this message.  Full disclosure, this stretch of downtown west is not in my ward and I read about the proposed demolition online like everyone else.  I'm glad someone at least caught it (presumably by checking building permits) before it started.  Hopefully we can avoid situations like this in the future.
I'd guess the ownership group "changed their tune" when they got the cost estimates for that structured parking south of Market...

PostOct 02, 2020#218

This apparent urgency to bring the 19xx Olive block down, and the stadium construction team schedule to take control and begin demo and excavation of the Anthem parking lot by the first week of November, is probably not a coincidence.

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PostOct 02, 2020#220

More parking, mission accomplished!
It was 1901 Pine, btw.

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PostOct 02, 2020#221

Have you ever seen anything so beautiful?

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PostOct 02, 2020#222

Tourists and locals alike will come gaze upon its grandeur.

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PostOct 02, 2020#223

If only we could get a Quik Trip on this block.

Can someone start a Change.org petition?

My only fear is that the gone-too-far joke would be taken for real public opinion.

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PostOct 02, 2020#224

^ Yeah, don’t give em any ideas lol.

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PostOct 03, 2020#225

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If only we could get a Quik Trip on this block.

Can someone start a Change.org petition?

My only fear is that the gone-too-far joke would be taken for real public opinion.
A QuikTrip on a 10-story garage podium? 

It could serve as the quintessential example of St. Louis-style "mixed-use" urban development! Quik, somebody photoshop a rendering... 🙂

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