No, it's not besides the point. What he's saying is cheap or ugly or whatever anyone thinks it is, it's contemporary in design and not just an EFIS and glass box. It's functional, but also decorative. Whether it's the new towers proposed in Clayton or the new buildings going up in the CWE, none of them take any chances (as projects in other cities do). This project, for better or worse, does.
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^ i don't think we have the same point in mind. maybe i should have said "Yes, yes, other cities are seeing more "cutting-edge" contemporary development than St. Louis." but whether or not it's contemporary in design is beside the point when considering how it's going to age. brick screens in front of windows were "contemporary" for a while, and served the same function as the grill on this building. now they're being removed because people actually want to look out their windows. contemporary design and smart/good/timeless design aren't necessarily synonymous.
So what do you want them to do? Remove the grills now?urban_dilettante wrote:^ i don't think we have the same point in mind. maybe i should have said "Yes, yes, other cities are seeing more "cutting-edge" contemporary development than St. Louis." but whether or not it's contemporary in design is beside the point when considering how it's going to age. brick screens in front of windows were "contemporary" for a while, and served the same function as the grill on this building. now they're being removed because people actually want to look out their windows. contemporary design and smart/good/timeless design aren't necessarily synonymous.
Whiskey And Soba @WhiskeyAndSoba
Another teaser of @UnitedProvision in @TheDelmarLoop.
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Another teaser of @UnitedProvision in @TheDelmarLoop.

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So besides the grocery store and diner, what else will be in these buildings' retail spaces?quincunx wrote:Whiskey And Soba @WhiskeyAndSoba
Another teaser of @UnitedProvision in @TheDelmarLoop.
IIRC there is one more retail space < 1000 sf and it is still available.Gateway City wrote: So besides the grocery store and diner, what else will be in these buildings' retail spaces?
They've been testing the multi-color lighting system on the sunscreen. Should be really cool at night.
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From StLMag.com: Colorful Details: Joe and Hope Edwards Expound on the Peacock Loop Diner--and each other
Link-> http://www.stlmag.com/dining/colorful-d ... he-peacoc/
Video, by Wash. U., gives great insight and visuals on this project.
More articles
The Record- The Lofts of Washington University development opens for business, students
https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/27202.aspx
StL Today - Washington U set to open Loop project
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 5f740.html
nextSTL - Washington University’s $80M Mixed-Use Student Housing Project Set to Open
http://nextstl.com/2014/08/wustl-loop-l ... ning-soon/
StL Public Radio - Taking A Look At Washington University's New Delmar Loop Dorms
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/tak ... loop-dorms
The Record- The Lofts of Washington University development opens for business, students
https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/27202.aspx
StL Today - Washington U set to open Loop project
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 5f740.html
nextSTL - Washington University’s $80M Mixed-Use Student Housing Project Set to Open
http://nextstl.com/2014/08/wustl-loop-l ... ning-soon/
StL Public Radio - Taking A Look At Washington University's New Delmar Loop Dorms
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/tak ... loop-dorms
The completion of Peacock Diner can't be too far away. There were about 12-15 construction workers toiling away in their this last thursday. It really appeared to be coming together.
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The interior, which unfortunately I didn't get a shot of, appears to take some cues from Camilia Grill in New Orleans, which has a few consecutive bays of low u-shaped counters:
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The interior, which unfortunately I didn't get a shot of, appears to take some cues from Camilia Grill in New Orleans, which has a few consecutive bays of low u-shaped counters:


^ love that place, was in New Orleans a few months ago and discovered it through a co-worker. Drove past it numerous time. Believe it is near the East bank and not far from Tulane if I got my university right.
Love the U-shaped counters. Reminds me of the old Southtown Famous Barr.
United Provisions:
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutche ... omplex.php
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutche ... omplex.php
WU students turning on their own development: http://www.studlife.com/forum/staff-edi ... -the-city/
Really. Sounds like one person griping just to be "different".wustl_eng wrote:WU students turning on their own development: http://www.studlife.com/forum/staff-edi ... -the-city/
I agree, I think it's kind of a load of sh*t and not representative but it's a "staff editorial" so odd that the paper leadership decided to publish such a strong take
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I don't understand the beef with the exterior design of the building. I think it looks great.
I was there a couple weeks ago (when I posted that last pick), and this whole development (along with the Blick Art Building) really re-centers the entire Loop. The City Limit now feels like the center of activity for the whole area.
It wasn't long ago that Vintage Vinyl or even the plaza next to the Market in the Loop felt like the beating heart. Now the Mews and Limits Walk feel like the center of gravity. Back in the late 90's people griped about how Metrolink didn't really go to the Loop, how it only went near the Loop, and how indicative that was of Metrolink's shortcomings. Today that's not the case.
It's great for the City to have such a retail growth engine continuing to expand in its direction.
It wasn't long ago that Vintage Vinyl or even the plaza next to the Market in the Loop felt like the beating heart. Now the Mews and Limits Walk feel like the center of gravity. Back in the late 90's people griped about how Metrolink didn't really go to the Loop, how it only went near the Loop, and how indicative that was of Metrolink's shortcomings. Today that's not the case.
It's great for the City to have such a retail growth engine continuing to expand in its direction.
We were down in the Loop last week and you could already feel the "center" shift eastward.wabash wrote:I was there a couple weeks ago (when I posted that last pick), and this whole development (along with the Blick Art Building) really re-centers the entire Loop. The City Limit now feels like the center of activity for the whole area.
It wasn't long ago that Vintage Vinyl or even the plaza next to the Market in the Loop felt like the beating heart. Now the Mews and Limits Walk feel like the center of gravity. Back in the late 90's people griped about how Metrolink didn't really go to the Loop, how it only went near the Loop, and how indicative that was of Metrolink's shortcomings. Today that's not the case.
It's great for the City to have such a retail growth engine continuing to expand in its direction.
I remember the good/bad old days of the Delmar Loop in the late 80's/early 90's that after having a drink at the old Ciceros or a much smaller Blueberry Hill, that going to the old Wabash Triangle Cafe meant driving instead of walking.














