I am not in St. Louis right now, or I would check on these myself, but can anyone tell me an update of the City Hospital renovation, or the lofts/apartments in the old Carriage Factory north of Soulard? Pics would be nice! 
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Both projects are coming along nicely. I drove by the City Hospital on Friday, and there were workers all over. Looks like the interior is starting to get framed in in spots, and windows will probably start to get installed soon. Welsch baby carriage factory is also coming along, but haven't been by in a couple of weeks.
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Let's keep this thread deveoted to the Georgian Condominiums. I have established a separate thread for the <A HREF="http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=628">Welsh Baby Carriage Factory</A> project.
Brief article in the April issue of the lame St. Louis Homes & Lifestyles magazine offers pictures of The Georgian as well as 2 other projects. I wish there was a magazine devoted exclusively to city living in STL. Can someone make that happen for me? Thanks.
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stellar wrote:I wish there was a magazine devoted exclusively to city living in STL. Can someone make that happen for me? Thanks.
I will get right on that... I think there is more than enough interest and content available to keep that type of publication going. I just need the financial backing. Can someone make that happen for me? Thanks.
I drove by today again and they are installing windows on the first floor.
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That's great!
Is work being done on any of the smaller buildings, or is it just the main building that's being renovated right now?
Is work being done on any of the smaller buildings, or is it just the main building that's being renovated right now?
The article in STLH&L concludes with this paragraph.
"After the main building is completed, The Guilded Age will begin renovation on the annex buildings, including a laundry room and power plant, to convert them to condominiums, office space and retail space."
"After the main building is completed, The Guilded Age will begin renovation on the annex buildings, including a laundry room and power plant, to convert them to condominiums, office space and retail space."
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I know my reply to this post is slow, but then again so are remediation and rehab over at The Georgian (ba dum chh!).
Word has it they're not putting copper on the cupolas. Probably not any kind of metal.
Probably plastic.
Word has it they're not putting copper on the cupolas. Probably not any kind of metal.
Probably plastic.
I think that a nice sized fountain should take residence in the 'parking lot' area right now. Make it a small park and some parking, instead of endless parking.
Do you mean the parking area in the front? It's more of a drive with parking, but I think a fountain would look good. I remember a rendering that did have a fountain, so maybe there will be one.
And the plastic cupola, interesting. That could look good, or really bad. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
And the plastic cupola, interesting. That could look good, or really bad. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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The cupola would probably look like the ones at and around Hampton Village, don't you think? I think it could look decent.
That's what I was thinking. The one they put on the new Walgreens looks good. It just depends how they end up designing it. Of course, they could put an ugly cupola on top, but I have faith that they will do a good job. They could screw up a copper cupola just as bad.
I think this will generally be the trend. More synthetics that can look just as good, but are way cheaper. Polyurithane trims instead of wood is already common. This is the only way we are going to be be able to continue to use affordable details.
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I think this will generally be the trend. More synthetics that can look just as good, but are way cheaper. Polyurithane trims instead of wood is already common. This is the only way we are going to be be able to continue to use affordable details.
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And remember that the development is being done by Gilded Age and Lawrence Group - two companies that don't cut corners.
MattnSTL wrote:Do you mean the parking area in the front? It's more of a drive with parking, but I think a fountain would look good. I remember a rendering that did have a fountain, so maybe there will be one.
And the plastic cupola, interesting. That could look good, or really bad. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
No, the giant lot behind the structure. It's filled in with gravel, I assume while the construction is going on, and will probably be used for some sort of parking when they open the building.
I have no idea what the plan for the giant lot back there, but it'll piss me off if they make it a 'nice looking' parking lot. It may look decent, but it's still nothing more than a parking lot. A huge fountain would look very cool, more towards the corner of Truman Pkwy than close to the building.
Ok, I don't have any idea what the current plans are for back there. I guess we will find out. A giant fountain would look good. I know there have been plans tossed around for buildings back there, so maybe something will get built eventually.
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Using vinyl instead of copper is cutting corners.
I've heard that at least one contractor refused to bid on the roof for embarrassment at how cheaply it is being done.
Fancy plastic is still plastic, and no matter if it's relatively "nice" plastic, it still cannot possibly look as stunning copper would. It also definitely won't last as long and will require more maintenance.
It breaks my heart to see the way that graceful fortress of a building is being treated. Its historical significance alone--provider of health care to the city's poor for well over a century--should afford it more dignity than it has been given as of late. They still haven't even covered the holes in the roof with protective tarps, let alone copper.
I've heard that at least one contractor refused to bid on the roof for embarrassment at how cheaply it is being done.
Fancy plastic is still plastic, and no matter if it's relatively "nice" plastic, it still cannot possibly look as stunning copper would. It also definitely won't last as long and will require more maintenance.
It breaks my heart to see the way that graceful fortress of a building is being treated. Its historical significance alone--provider of health care to the city's poor for well over a century--should afford it more dignity than it has been given as of late. They still haven't even covered the holes in the roof with protective tarps, let alone copper.
My name is not Matt. wrote:I've heard that at least one contractor refused to bid on the roof for embarrassment at how cheaply it is being done.
Never heard of a contractor doing such a thing, but I guess it could happen once in a while. (It's a joke- contractors never pass an oppurtunity for money, especially roofers)
Fancy plastic is still plastic, and no matter if it's relatively "nice" plastic, it still cannot possibly look as stunning copper would. It also definitely won't last as long and will require more maintenance.
I think each material has a use. Copper does not look good on everything, just like certainly vinyl doesn't either. While I would prefer copper, it's just not always feasible. Sometimes, as much as even I wish it could, things can't always be perfect. I'm not sure if this will even be noticeable to more than a handfew of people. Synthetics can look very good. I've been tricked myself many times. Only time will tell how this looks.
And personally, I would think a copper cupola would require more maintenance than a plastic one, but I don't really know for sure.
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So, I am guessing that the City Hospital (Georgian Condominiums) are not located within the Lafayette Square Historic District. The Lafayette Square Historic District Ordinance and the city's preservation board wouldn't have allowed for plastic to be used, if that is the case.
As for the giant lot behind the Georgian, here are two different renderings.. one showing parking and one showing residential infill. I don't recall which one was the latest proposal, but theyare both pretty old. I haven't seen anything new in awhile.
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As for the giant lot behind the Georgian, here are two different renderings.. one showing parking and one showing residential infill. I don't recall which one was the latest proposal, but theyare both pretty old. I haven't seen anything new in awhile.
The rendering on the bottom looks newer, but I'm not really sure.
Last night, driving by the place, I noticed that they had it lit up in moving, color changing spotlights. I guess they're trying to drum up interest? I can see why they would because it's hard to tell they're working on it sometimes during the daytime. (I guess from far away.)
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N DEPTH: STRUCTURES: HISTORIC REDEVELOPMENT
From the May 13, 2005 print edition
<A HREF="http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... 7.html">50 percent of units sold at The Georgian City Hospital</A>
Leigh O'Keefe
City Hospital, which has sat vacant since 1989, will open its doors to residents this fall.
Gilded Age Renovation LLC, which is redeveloping the hospital, renamed the building The Georgian City Hospital, after the Georgian style of the 1913 structure. The Georgian, although historic, is finding a new life in a modern look.
<A HREF="http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... ocus7.html">>>> read more</A>
From the May 13, 2005 print edition
<A HREF="http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... 7.html">50 percent of units sold at The Georgian City Hospital</A>
Leigh O'Keefe
City Hospital, which has sat vacant since 1989, will open its doors to residents this fall.
Gilded Age Renovation LLC, which is redeveloping the hospital, renamed the building The Georgian City Hospital, after the Georgian style of the 1913 structure. The Georgian, although historic, is finding a new life in a modern look.
<A HREF="http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... ocus7.html">>>> read more</A>