Aged green copper topping a white tower (cupola) is a GREAT look.
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The new cupolas only have copper tops; the bodies are clad with some sort of plastic.
Yes, those old frameworks do exist at City Museum (in addition with other City Hospital parts): http://stlouiscityhospital.org/photos/cupola/
Yes, those old frameworks do exist at City Museum (in addition with other City Hospital parts): http://stlouiscityhospital.org/photos/cupola/
I drove by the City Hospital on Sunday, mainly to look at the Cupola's in person. I thought they looked really good with a white structure and copper roof. I actually think copper on the whole thing would look kind of odd. But I never saw the originals, so I have no true comparison.
I agree, and they look even better in person. I can't wait until the thing is all occupied and lit up and bustling with activity. Does anyone have a timetable on when all the residents will move in and when the commercial development will start?
I think the cupolas look great. All copper would have been tacky and gauche.
Echoing other sentiments, you just have to love this project. It was a tremendous liability for the city for so many years--a huge abandoned hulk being the very first thing so many people saw of the city coming from 44 and 55. Very intimidating. This little corner of the city has seen some dramatic changes in the last five years, and with the inevitable revitalization of Bohemian Hill, it will only get better.
City Hospital. The Continental. The Coronado. These three buidlings speak volumes in terms of the redevelopment of the city. All three were once dismissed as too large and expensive to be either redeveloped or torn down. They were ignored because they were in "marginal" or "dangerous" areas. And now all three have been carefully restored.
It's hard to argue that the city's "dead."
Echoing other sentiments, you just have to love this project. It was a tremendous liability for the city for so many years--a huge abandoned hulk being the very first thing so many people saw of the city coming from 44 and 55. Very intimidating. This little corner of the city has seen some dramatic changes in the last five years, and with the inevitable revitalization of Bohemian Hill, it will only get better.
City Hospital. The Continental. The Coronado. These three buidlings speak volumes in terms of the redevelopment of the city. All three were once dismissed as too large and expensive to be either redeveloped or torn down. They were ignored because they were in "marginal" or "dangerous" areas. And now all three have been carefully restored.
It's hard to argue that the city's "dead."
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Now that the main building is almost occupied, does anyone have a timetable as to what the next part of this project will be and when will they start construction? Also I am not a fan of the HUGE parking lot, hopefully it is only temporary until more building can be developed.
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I don't think any of the units are occupied quite yet, though many are sold. I just toured the place about a month ago, and the realtors said the east wing would be completed first, then the middle building (main entrance), then the west wing (displays on second floor). The east wing looked to be nearing completion, so owners might be moving in fairly soon.
SoulardD wrote: I can't wait until the thing is all occupied and lit up
You know, I hadn't even thought about that. It really WILL look great when its lit up!
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steve wrote:I think the cupolas look great. All copper would have been tacky and gauche.
Even though the original cupolas were all copper?
A homeowner wouldn't be eligible for historic tax credits for making such a switch on a rehab.
I remember the old copper cupolas. They looked wonderful. The new ones look like cheap imitations. The white sticks out like a sore thumb.
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I remember years of the old metal frames stripped of their copper. Compared to that, the new cupolas look fantastic!
My god, this is simply amazing. If anyone critizes the city, I will have plent of ammunition to shoot at them.
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The stripped frames make the comparison pretty extreme, so that even the cheapest new cupolas would be a superficial improvement. In terms of materials and historical accuracy, though, the new cupolas miss the mark. A building is much more than what it looks like.
You said it well, eco.
Don't get me wrong, I love what all else they're doing with the Georgian, it's just that I remember the old cupolas, and the new ones just don't do the original look justice. If at least they'd just paint them a patina copper green, I think that would be much better than that stark white.
Don't get me wrong, I love what all else they're doing with the Georgian, it's just that I remember the old cupolas, and the new ones just don't do the original look justice. If at least they'd just paint them a patina copper green, I think that would be much better than that stark white.
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Speaking of alterations, I seem to recall that the original dormer windows were round instead of the shape that was replicated. They also were clad in copper. Am I wrong about this?
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Did not the company say that these are the actual reproductions of the original design? How are they not good enough? The white does stand out, but it looks like they are quality and are very detailed to satisfy aesthetics.
Please explain eco for I am not as knowledgeable on how this misses the mark especially since the developer said they followed the original designs.
Please explain eco for I am not as knowledgeable on how this misses the mark especially since the developer said they followed the original designs.
The building looks phenomenal! I would like to chat with someone that has already purchased a condo unit at the Georgian. I just have a few questions...
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I run past this building every night (well - not every night) and I always wonder about the side buildings. I assume they are plannign to do somethign with them (they're not very pleasant to look at as is). Does anyone know the long term plan?
also - I wonder what they're goign to do with the huge swath of land behind the hospital. I hoep someone plans on developing it. If we could get street side development on all four sides of that block it would really round out the area. .. as it is the huge field of gravle and weeds really ruins the urban feel.
ditto for the vacant lots directly across from the hospital.
I just hope they don't plan on building a ginormous surface parking lot on all that land.
also - I wonder what they're goign to do with the huge swath of land behind the hospital. I hoep someone plans on developing it. If we could get street side development on all four sides of that block it would really round out the area. .. as it is the huge field of gravle and weeds really ruins the urban feel.
ditto for the vacant lots directly across from the hospital.
I just hope they don't plan on building a ginormous surface parking lot on all that land.
How is this project coming along? For such a massive project it sure is a very quiet one.
St.Louis UAB alumni wrote:How is this project coming along? For such a massive project it sure is a very quiet one.
You're right, it hasn't received much attention for a project of its significance. Overall, I think they've done a great job. A few things bother me, however. They've put up fencing around the building, which gives it a ridiculous air of exclusivity and introversion typical of suburban projects. They've also maintained the circular driveway, which in my opinon should have been converted into a kind of courtyard with a fountain. Also, the new cornices (is that correct?) look cheap.
But don't get me wrong, I love this project. It looks great overall, and will do wonders as a link for downtown, Lafayette Square, Bohemian Hill, and the near south side. The site also has tremendous psychological impact, as it is the first thing a lot of suburbanites and out-of-towners see when they visit downtown St. Louis. I can't wait till they develop the rest of the site.
It's a little disappointing that the front driveway is looking more classy. A courtyard with a fountain is a perfect idea. The materials are toward the low-end. Maybe landscaping will help. The entire complex is still at least a year or more from completion.
A really awesome and opulent clubhouse would get me to consider signing. They've got all that land behind it. Something that rivels anything in the region. The whole nine yards...racquet, swim, fitness, spa, etc...
A really awesome and opulent clubhouse would get me to consider signing. They've got all that land behind it. Something that rivels anything in the region. The whole nine yards...racquet, swim, fitness, spa, etc...
"Nine yards"? Heck, how about nine holes? Lord knows they've got the room!
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I was in there to see the units awhile back. Great layouts and views. I hope they are really successful. But this building is a couple of blocks outside Lafayette Square proper, in the King Louis sq. area. It is nearly surrounded by public/subsidized/workforce (whatever you want to call it) housing. You can disagree about the definition, but King Louis sq. is still a public housing project area, and that puts people off. The area around the Georgian is not an inviting place to walk either.