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Post5:10 AM - 8 days ago#9976

https://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/s/OJ10ajZ2MK

Some entertainment. Calling STL "super suburban" while championing Kansas City is just so on par.





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Post5:46 AM - 8 days ago#9977

Lmao KCRag'ers on suicide watch

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Post12:23 PM - 8 days ago#9978

^^ To be fair, that poster is an outlier and most over there are respectful of STL. We need KC to do well so that, together, we can outvote the rural parts of our state.

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Post12:34 PM - 8 days ago#9979

I was just going to say that. That's the internet at its worst, and making us perceive something that's not actually true. I read through that whole reddit thread and there wasn't much vitriol for STL. Let's hope KCers hop on a short flight to spend some money at Lambert on their way to Europe 😁

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Post1:10 PM - 8 days ago#9980

StlAlex wrote: ↑
5:10 AM - 8 days ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/kansascity/s/OJ10ajZ2MK

Some entertainment. Calling STL "super suburban" while championing Kansas City is just so on par.


Don't care. 
The entire post says what you need to know.  

We keep it classy here.

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Post1:55 PM - 8 days ago#9981

Since when? I’m from Chicago. I can take a few swings at Kansas City on STLs behalf.

I will not get a KcRag account though so they’ll have to come to me.


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Post2:42 PM - 8 days ago#9982

pdm_ad wrote: ↑
12:23 PM - 8 days ago
^^ To be fair, that poster is an outlier and most over there are respectful of STL. We need KC to do well so that, together, we can outvote the rural parts of our state.
Like I've said before KC, Columbia and St. Louis need to secede in a new state that's connected by I-70 and a 300mph high speed rail line. It will still be called Missouri. Then the rest can be Missourah

But I do find it odd that KC people have a much deep hatred of us. Not sure why they do but it seems to be really thick. 

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Post2:59 PM - 8 days ago#9983

Interestingly KC's mayor has started to give us some compliments online... I agree we need to start some sort of healthy partnership between the two/three cities to start clawing back some of the power we used to have.




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Post3:39 PM - 8 days ago#9984

Lol, regarding the Iberia rumor to STL:

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Post4:02 PM - 8 days ago#9985

2027's Seats to Europe from STL
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Post5:47 PM - 8 days ago#9986

Another hate worm trying to prove something to fit in… I happen to love imo’s specially if you go to one who actually does it good…. What big city doesn’t have eons of suburbia….. Anyways I’m liking the wins that StL is racking up … whether big or small every bit of it matters.


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Post6:31 PM - 8 days ago#9987

If Kansas City Business Journal had even 10% the spite that St. Louis Business Journal staff have, they'd publish this. 

This is fake.
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This is real.
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Post8:05 PM - 8 days ago#9988

pdm_ad wrote: ↑
3:39 PM - 8 days ago
Lol, regarding the Iberia rumor to STL:

IB.jpg
Is is funny because that same person said that about: Lufthansa, British Airways and Iceland.  
It is called insanely jealous. LOL
The internet is disheartening when people use it as their personal grievance board 🙄  unfortunately,  it is what happens. 

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Post11:19 PM - 7 days ago#9989

Southwest Airlines weighs Boeing 787 for long-haul international push, sources say

CHICAGO/MONTREAL, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Southwest Airlines (LUV.N), opens new tab is leaning toward Boeing's (BA.N), opens new tab 787 Dreamliner as its first widebody jet as it weighs launching long-haul international flights, according to three people familiar with the carrier's fleet ‌planning.
The people, who declined to be named because the deliberations are private, cautioned that no final aircraft decision has been made. The choice would ultimately rest with Southwest's board, which last year formed a Fleet Oversight Committee to help oversee the company's aircraft fleet acquisition strategy.


Southwest has not publicly named an aircraft for long-haul flying. In September, Chief Financial Officer Tom Doxey said long-haul international service was among a range of options under consideration but that no decision had been made.
One of the people said Southwest has contemplated a fleet of dozens of 787s.
Southwest has also examined how quickly it could obtain aircraft, ⁠including through lessors or the secondary market, according to two of the people. Reuters could not determine which 787 variant it is considering or whether any leasing arrangements have been made.

Southwest did not directly address questions about the 787, saying in a statement, "We do not have any news forthcoming related to our fleet plans." Boeing referred questions about the fleet plans to the carrier. Airbus (AIR.PA), opens new tab said it does not comment on discussions with airlines.
The deliberations would take Southwest's overhaul into a new phase. The airline has added assigned seating and extra-legroom seats and announced airport lounges and plans for a premium credit card as it seeks to attract higher-spending travelers.

A widebody fleet would take Southwest into long-haul international flying and more direct competition with larger US rivals. Southwest has publicly discussed long-haul expansion as part of a broader effort to give customers fewer reasons to book with competitors while strengthening its Rapid Rewards loyalty program and co-branded credit-card business.
CEO Bob Jordan has said Southwest does not need a ‌long-haul network ⁠comparable with those of Delta Air Lines (DAL.N), opens new tab, United Airlines (UAL.O), opens new tab or American Airlines (AAL.O), opens new tab. In May, he said 8 to 12 long-haul destinations could cover much of where Southwest customers want to travel.

BOEING VERSUS AIRBUS
Southwest currently operates an all-Boeing 737 fleet, but Airbus has been aggressively courting the airline as it evaluates future fleet needs, according to people familiar with the discussions. They said the A321XLR and A330neo could serve its long-haul needs, while the smaller A220 has been pitched for other parts of its network.
Choosing Airbus would require Southwest to diversify its fleet. ⁠Those people said the 787 has appeared to hold the stronger position in the discussions.

Southwest's pilot union has publicly indicated that more than one path is being examined. Jody Reven, president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, said in a recent union podcast that the company had discussed both a "large aircraft" and a "narrow-body long-haul aircraft" as part of its future plans.
AVAILABILITY ⁠COULD SHAPE TIMING
The long-haul plan has been discussed on a roughly three-year timetable, one of the people said. But aircraft availability could shape the timing.
Boeing has said the 787 is sold out through the end of the decade.
One of the people said Southwest has explored obtaining some Dreamliners through lessors, potentially allowing an earlier launch. Another ⁠said aircraft from the secondary market had been considered for the initial fleet.
Adding a 787 widebody would be a bigger undertaking than expanding Southwest's current 737 operation. Southwest has said adding a new aircraft type could require new maintenance and training programs, regulatory approvals and union negotiations over pay and work rules.

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Post3:00 AM - 7 days ago#9990

It is good to see that STL did not have to put any money incentives at all for the latest Icelandair flights.  

Post3:18 AM - 7 days ago#9991

Got to love it for sure!
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Post3:41 AM - 7 days ago#9992

matguy70 wrote: ↑
3:18 AM - 7 days ago
Got to love it for sure!
🔥

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Post4:21 AM - 7 days ago#9993

matguy70 wrote: ↑
3:00 AM - 7 days ago
It is good to see that STL did not have to put any money incentives at all for the latest Icelandair flights.  
they are putting up 500K a year for two years. Not much but not nothing

Post4:21 AM - 7 days ago#9994

matguy70 wrote: ↑
3:18 AM - 7 days ago
Got to love it for sure!
nice graphic

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Post12:57 PM - 7 days ago#9995

jshank83 wrote: ↑
4:21 AM - 7 days ago
matguy70 wrote: ↑
3:00 AM - 7 days ago
It is good to see that STL did not have to put any money incentives at all for the latest Icelandair flights.  
they are putting up 500K a year for two years. Not much but not nothing
Ah. Thanks Jshank83.  I was under the understanding there was no incentives.  But that really is nothing. I would call that more "fee waivers" than an "incentive" given that Southwest is involved as well. 

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Post2:11 PM - 7 days ago#9996

500k a year will probably be mostly offset by increased connecting Southwest traffic

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Post7:59 PM - 7 days ago#9997

matguy70 wrote: ↑
12:57 PM - 7 days ago
jshank83 wrote: ↑
4:21 AM - 7 days ago
matguy70 wrote: ↑
3:00 AM - 7 days ago
It is good to see that STL did not have to put any money incentives at all for the latest Icelandair flights.  
they are putting up 500K a year for two years. Not much but not nothing
Ah. Thanks Jshank83.  I was under the understanding there was no incentives.  But that really is nothing. I would call that more "fee waivers" than an "incentive" given that Southwest is involved as well. 
It is being paid out by the port authority so I assume it is on top of fee waivers. But still, not much in the grand scheme of things. 

Post8:03 PM - 7 days ago#9998

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑
2:11 PM - 7 days ago
500k a year will probably be mostly offset by increased connecting Southwest traffic
I will say I think the connecting traffic Iceland is acting like they are expecting is being overstated a bit. I was told for the entire Southwest network they are connecting less than 50 people a day to European partners, all of them not just Iceland. Now if Southwest ever figures out how to sell Icelandair tickets themselves I think that number will jump up quite a bit. I just wanted to temper expectations a bit. If we can get 10-20 connectors here per flight I think that is a good number. 

Post8:05 PM - 7 days ago#9999

July international loads (DOT)

Lufthansa Frankfurt 92.75%
Southwest Punta Cana 91.24%
BA London 90.41%
AC Montreal 88.33%
AC Toronto 88.20%
Southwest Cabo 86.62%
Frontier Cancun 86.19%
Southwest Cancun 84.80%
Southwest Montego Bay 82.50%
Frontier Punta Cana 76.65%

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Post5:58 PM - 5 days ago#10000

The Trump administration will implement a new rule next week that it expects will reduce the “amenities and compensation” airlines provide to travelers, sparking uproar among critics.

“No more cheap airlines, we are paying through the nose for flights now — and, under Trump, all the consumer protections we had are gone,” wrote Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Julie K. Brown in a social media post on X. “This doesn’t hurt wealthy people; it only helps airlines that overbook their flights and create havoc that leads to delays.”

Taking effect Oct. 19, the new rule will change how airlines classify certain flight delays and cancellations. Specifically, it will exclude 10 causes of delay and cancellation from disruptions considered to be within an airline’s control, including certain unscheduled aircraft maintenance and certain government system failures.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/09/03/2026-18040/cause-of-airline-delay-and-cancellation-categories-under-section-511b-of-the-faa-reauthorization-act#p-48

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