The bridges go over the flood plain of Trinity River - they span from levee to levee. We used to drink "down at the trinity" a few miles upstream from there when I was in high school.gary kreie wrote: ↑Jul 06, 2025I see your photo of Dallas shows that malformed tall arch with cables holding up a car bridge over a — crick. I think Dallas has been trying to think up a symbol that would separate their skyline from all the other lookalike square tower chiclet skylines. Like what St Louis, Seattle, SF, NY, & Chicago have.quincunx wrote:Just get rid of the highway, sheesh.
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They have had that geodesic ball on a stick for several years now. Looks kind of dated now, and Knoxville and Vancouver have those too. I think their arch bridge was a new attempt.
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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dart- ... l/3916513/
DART approves service cuts to save $42 million over the next 2 years.
The cuts include the elimination of 7 bus lines, reduced peak-hour frequency on trains and buses, and reduced on-demand service.
The cuts are in part because of new costs to run the Silver Line commuter train.
DART approves service cuts to save $42 million over the next 2 years.
The cuts include the elimination of 7 bus lines, reduced peak-hour frequency on trains and buses, and reduced on-demand service.
The cuts are in part because of new costs to run the Silver Line commuter train.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/
AT&T is looking for 1 million sf of office space outside of downtown Dallas, primarily in the suburbs.
As of 2022, they had 2 million sf of office space and 6,000 workers downtown.
AT&T is looking for 1 million sf of office space outside of downtown Dallas, primarily in the suburbs.
As of 2022, they had 2 million sf of office space and 6,000 workers downtown.
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Just imagine if we had 6K AT&T workers in Downtown STL.Auggie wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2025https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/
AT&T is looking for 1 million sf of office space outside of downtown Dallas, primarily in the suburbs.
As of 2022, they had 2 million sf of office space and 6,000 workers downtown.
The main competitors to AT&T are located in similar corporate campuses with lots of green space (Verizon in Basking Ridge and T-Mobile HQ’s in Bellevue and Overland Park).dweebe wrote:Where have I heard this before?
I wonder if this influenced AT&T’s thinking in any way.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... 247687.php
AT&T new headquarters updates:
They have selected Plano, TX for their new HQ, and there is quite the deal here.
-65% property tax break acorss 25 years
-Option for a 10 year extension at 25%
-At least $1.35 billion in development
-10,000 employees at the site
-At least 25 years of occupancy
-At least 2 million square feet of development
-$20 million in additional incentives
Current plans call for 2.3 million square feet of construction across the 54-acre campus. The office campus will include a daycare, nearly an acre of greenspace, and a 280 foot "landmark" tower that will resembed Dallas' iconic "Reunion Tower". Other than the tower, the tallest building will be 8 stories. Several parking garages are also planned to be constructed.
AT&T's CEO said they will like to begin occupying the building in the 2nd half of 2028, but will likely keep some workers at the downtown headquarters until the lease expires in 2031.
Edit: Downtown Dallas' office market is in similar shape to downtown STL, 30-35% vacant at the moment.
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AT&T new headquarters updates:
They have selected Plano, TX for their new HQ, and there is quite the deal here.
-65% property tax break acorss 25 years
-Option for a 10 year extension at 25%
-At least $1.35 billion in development
-10,000 employees at the site
-At least 25 years of occupancy
-At least 2 million square feet of development
-$20 million in additional incentives
Current plans call for 2.3 million square feet of construction across the 54-acre campus. The office campus will include a daycare, nearly an acre of greenspace, and a 280 foot "landmark" tower that will resembed Dallas' iconic "Reunion Tower". Other than the tower, the tallest building will be 8 stories. Several parking garages are also planned to be constructed.
AT&T's CEO said they will like to begin occupying the building in the 2nd half of 2028, but will likely keep some workers at the downtown headquarters until the lease expires in 2031.
Edit: Downtown Dallas' office market is in similar shape to downtown STL, 30-35% vacant at the moment.
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Thanks for sharing this.StlAlex wrote: ↑6:47 PM - May 09https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... 247687.php
AT&T new headquarters updates:
They have selected Plano, TX for their new HQ, and there is quite the deal here.
-65% property tax break acorss 25 years
-Option for a 10 year extension at 25%
-At least $1.35 billion in development
-10,000 employees at the site
-At least 25 years of occupancy
-At least 2 million square feet of development
-$20 million in additional incentives
Current plans call for 2.3 million square feet of construction across the 54-acre campus. The office campus will include a daycare, nearly an acre of greenspace, and a 280 foot "landmark" tower that will resembed Dallas' iconic "Reunion Tower". Other than the tower, the tallest building will be 8 stories. Several parking garages are also planned to be constructed.
AT&T's CEO said they will like to begin occupying the building in the 2nd half of 2028, but will likely keep some workers at the downtown headquarters until the lease expires in 2031.
Edit: Downtown Dallas' office market is in similar shape to downtown STL, 30-35% vacant at the moment.
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As one who views tax subsidies with (sometimes) extreme skepticism, it's interesting to see that even in one of the 2 biggest boomtowns in the country, tax subsidies are the norm. How do those property tax breaks compare to what STL does or doesn't do when it comes to tax subsidies for development?
STL has a significantly higher property tax rate, but Dallas actually has a lower rate. The tax break Plano is giving them actually seems to align what they'll be paying with what they would be paying if they built in Dallas.soulardx wrote:Thanks for sharing this.StlAlex wrote: ↑6:47 PM - May 09https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... 247687.php
AT&T new headquarters updates:
They have selected Plano, TX for their new HQ, and there is quite the deal here.
-65% property tax break acorss 25 years
-Option for a 10 year extension at 25%
-At least $1.35 billion in development
-10,000 employees at the site
-At least 25 years of occupancy
-At least 2 million square feet of development
-$20 million in additional incentives
Current plans call for 2.3 million square feet of construction across the 54-acre campus. The office campus will include a daycare, nearly an acre of greenspace, and a 280 foot "landmark" tower that will resembed Dallas' iconic "Reunion Tower". Other than the tower, the tallest building will be 8 stories. Several parking garages are also planned to be constructed.
AT&T's CEO said they will like to begin occupying the building in the 2nd half of 2028, but will likely keep some workers at the downtown headquarters until the lease expires in 2031.
Edit: Downtown Dallas' office market is in similar shape to downtown STL, 30-35% vacant at the moment.
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As one who views tax subsidies with (sometimes) extreme skepticism, it's interesting to see that even in one of the 2 biggest boomtowns in the country, tax subsidies are the norm. How do those property tax breaks compare to what STL does or doesn't do when it comes to tax subsidies for development?
Dallas metro seems sorta like the STL metro but arguably even worse. You have a ton of different markets that genuinely hate each other competing for business.
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We have a higher property tax even though Texas has no income tax?
Yeah I never heard that before. I heard property taxes in Texas are some of the highest in the country.moorlander wrote: ↑7:29 PM - May 10We have a higher property tax even though Texas has no income tax?
Texas has no state property tax, Plano's property tax rate is $1.7077 per $100.
For reference, Texas' yearly budget is only about 3x that of Missouri's dispute having more than 5x Missouri's population. The primary way the state raises money is via the sales tax, which is 6.5%.
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For reference, Texas' yearly budget is only about 3x that of Missouri's dispute having more than 5x Missouri's population. The primary way the state raises money is via the sales tax, which is 6.5%.
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StlAlex wrote: ↑7:40 PM - May 10Texas has no state property tax, Plano's property tax rate is $1.7077 per $100.
For reference, Texas' yearly budget is only about 3x that of Missouri's dispute having more than 5x Missouri's population. The primary way the state raises money is via the sales tax, which is 6.5%.
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"Texas has no state property tax. Local governments set tax rates and collect property taxes that they use to provide local services including schools, streets, roads, police, fire protection, and more. Your locally elected officials (school trustees, city council members, county commissioners) decide your property tax burden. These local officials can also help answer questions and respond to inquiries.goat314 wrote:StlAlex wrote: ↑7:40 PM - May 10Texas has no state property tax, Plano's property tax rate is $1.7077 per $100.
For reference, Texas' yearly budget is only about 3x that of Missouri's dispute having more than 5x Missouri's population. The primary way the state raises money is via the sales tax, which is 6.5%.
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The Texas Legislature does not set the tax amount of your local taxes nor does your local appraisal district."
https://www.texas.gov/living-in-texas/p ... nsparency/
Texas does not levy a state property tax.
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https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local ... aefc2cf371
Fifth Third Bank to vacate Comerica Tower downtown, move the regional office to a new development in North Dallas.
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Fifth Third Bank to vacate Comerica Tower downtown, move the regional office to a new development in North Dallas.
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Apparently both the Stars and Mavericks will both be building new arenas, meaning American Airlines Center will be vacant and without a permanent tenant come 2031. It's only 25 years old and is already being replaced. Dallas spent $140 million in total on the public portion of the arena, they paid off the bonds in 2011.
Stars are moving to Plano, Mavericks are considering either downtown or North Dallas.
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Stars are moving to Plano, Mavericks are considering either downtown or North Dallas.
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https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/nba ... 7bc7cd3242
Mavericks choose North Dallas site for new arena and entertainment district.
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Mavericks choose North Dallas site for new arena and entertainment district.
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StlAlex wrote: ↑9:44 PM - 1 day agohttps://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/nba ... 7bc7cd3242
Mavericks choose North Dallas site for new arena and entertainment district.
Damn. Starting to sound like us.
Actually I think Dallas generally has a much worse outlook on its urban core and especially downtown than STL. I've been unhealthily browsing their Reddit recently and it is extremely toxic. There was a post yesterday filled with cope about how Dallas is actually better than SEATTLE of all cities.
You can find way more downtown defenders in STL, and way more people who generally see the value of public transit and having a healthy downtown than you seem to be able to in Dallas, from my very limited perspective through Reddit.
Edit: I also didn't realize that AA Center already has a large mixed use development featuring thousands of apartments, a hotel, retail, etc. Pretty crazy that they're both leaving with plans to build what they already have downtown and transit accessible.
In the last 1-2 weeks, downtowm Dallas has lost 2 sports teams, a Fortune 500 headquarters, and a major bank office. Pretty devastating week, even for a city with growth like Dallas does.
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You can find way more downtown defenders in STL, and way more people who generally see the value of public transit and having a healthy downtown than you seem to be able to in Dallas, from my very limited perspective through Reddit.
Edit: I also didn't realize that AA Center already has a large mixed use development featuring thousands of apartments, a hotel, retail, etc. Pretty crazy that they're both leaving with plans to build what they already have downtown and transit accessible.
In the last 1-2 weeks, downtowm Dallas has lost 2 sports teams, a Fortune 500 headquarters, and a major bank office. Pretty devastating week, even for a city with growth like Dallas does.
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Imagine the Blues and Cardinals announcing they’re leaving downtown St. Louis within 30 hours of each other.
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And their flagship Neiman Marcus storedweebe wrote:Imagine the Blues and Cardinals announcing they’re leaving downtown St. Louis within 30 hours of each other.
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