urbanSTL

From Commissioner Russels interview....."On that day, Commissioner Russell got no indication that the sirens were not working until that night when the Mayor asked: “what happened with the sirens?” That was the first time Commissioner Russell had heard that they were not deployed"

Yeesh.

Mayors townhall on the tornado tonight got very heated, residents frustrated with the Mayor. The townhall will air August 25th on PBS Nine.

Why wouldn’t they publish that reaction if that’s how media felt?

^ they prefer to vent to me via text 

"they". you mean the one guy that texts you any time the major has a drink?

I talk to on regular bases(weekly) with 3 KMOV reporters, 2 KDSK reporters, 4 STL magazine reporters and 3 post dispatch reporters, a few producers from KMOX

At this point don’t we know pretty well what happened on May 16th or am I missing something?

we won't know for sure until they find the right conspiracy to lay on Cara. it's gonna take some time to properly hone it and convince people it's her fault that a system she didn't implement failed right after she took office.

^ nobody has blamed the Mayor for what happened on May 16th, the fault there is mainly CEMA and Fire Dept.  what she does own is the response and the failure of that response and hiring her unqualified friend as Chief of Staff, hiring a unqulified director of communication, appointing the guy who led snow ops as interim director of streets, keeping Rich Bradley as BPS director, she owns all those decisions 

It's still funny to me that people still try to say communication with the Fire Department was "unclear" when the audio clearly shows that Russell asked the FD if they could turn on the tornado sirens.

There's no conspiracy with Spencer. Reality is that the aftermath was totally botched by her, literally all in an effort to deflect blame that wasn't even being laid at her feet.

what failure? people started yelling "botched" like the day after the tornado. nothing's been botched. there's no fast way to recover from it.

Maybe you should go to north city , there are sidewalks still blocked by debris

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Aug 20, 2025

what failure? people started yelling "botched" like the day after the tornado. nothing's been botched. there's no fast way to recover from it.

I'm not referring necessarily to the recovery by the city, I am referring to how quickly she started playing defense with regards to the tornado sirens and trying to deflect blame, blame that wasn't even being thrown at her.

Stuff specifically like the "unclear" narrative about communication when anyone who actually listened to the audio recording of the phone call Russell made to the FD would realize that it was not "unclear".

It is beyond obvious that Russell was the fall guy for the administration to ensure that blame was not laid on it, in particular Spencer herself.

As for the actual recovery, it has objectively been bad. But that is expected because an EF-3 tornado ripped through the city. Actually, Spencer's quick approval of curfew orders in parts of the city was a really good move that helped ensure looting and general crime didn't become widespread in the most devastated parts of the city. The recovery can only be judged years down the line, but right now, the clean up has not been good, but Spencer can't be blamed for that, nor could any mayor.

A lot of tornado damage repair building permits issued last week, mainly in DeBaliviere Place. 
5574 WATERMAN 
5592 WATERMAN 
5587-81 WATERMAN 
5544 WATERMAN 
5560 WATERMAN 
5708 KINGSBURY 
5567 PERSHING 
5555 PERSHING 
5559 PERSHING 
38 WASHINGTON 
4232 SACRAMENTO 
5559 PERSHING 
5572 WATERMAN
5583 WATERMAN 
48 KINGSBURY 
5557 PERSHING 
5577 WATERMAN 
5548 WATERMAN 
5554 WATERMAN 
15 KINGSBURY 
5744 PERSHING 
4000 N NEWSTEAD 
5287 WESTMINSTER 
4526 LABADIE 
6025 LINDELL 
5595-97 PERSHING 
1124 N KINGSHIGHWAY 
5244 WESTMINSTER 
4217 WESTMINSTER 
5082 WATERMAN 
4471 PENROSE 
4469 PENROSE 
4972 MAFFITT

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 24, 2025

A lot of tornado damage repair building permits issued last week, mainly in DeBaliviere Place. 
5574 WATERMAN 
5592 WATERMAN 
5587-81 WATERMAN 
5544 WATERMAN 
5560 WATERMAN 
5708 KINGSBURY 
5567 PERSHING 
5555 PERSHING 
5559 PERSHING 
38 WASHINGTON 
4232 SACRAMENTO 
5559 PERSHING 
5572 WATERMAN
5583 WATERMAN 
48 KINGSBURY 
5557 PERSHING 
5577 WATERMAN 
5548 WATERMAN 
5554 WATERMAN 
15 KINGSBURY 
5744 PERSHING 
4000 N NEWSTEAD 
5287 WESTMINSTER 
4526 LABADIE 
6025 LINDELL 
5595-97 PERSHING 
1124 N KINGSHIGHWAY 
5244 WESTMINSTER 
4217 WESTMINSTER 
5082 WATERMAN 
4471 PENROSE 
4469 PENROSE 
4972 MAFFITT

and my HOA is still negotiating with insurance adjuster - it is very disappointing. They have not even at a stage to apply for permits let alone ready to get inspected.

Stl PR - Walking the tornado’s path 100 days later reveals a divided St. Louis

https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... er-walking

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

This week-
5630 PERSHING
711 N EUCLID
415 DEBALIVIERE
27 LENOX
5621-31 PERSHING
1020 UNION
800 ARLINGTON
35 WASHINGTON
5027 WESTMINSTER
5273 WASHINGTON
53 WESTMORELAND
4338 NATURAL BRIDGE
4410 WASHINGTON
30 WASHINGTON
5583 WATERMAN
5244 WESTMINSTER
41 KINGSBURY
5150-52 WATERMAN
4477 SAN FRANCISCO
5834 PERSHING
4603 PERSHING
40 WASHINGTON
5714 WATERMAN BLVD

please don't post them here. it is depressing for me

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

This week-
5630 PERSHING
711 N EUCLID
415 DEBALIVIERE
27 LENOX
5621-31 PERSHING
1020 UNION
800 ARLINGTON
35 WASHINGTON
5027 WESTMINSTER
5273 WASHINGTON
53 WESTMORELAND
4338 NATURAL BRIDGE
4410 WASHINGTON
30 WASHINGTON
5583 WATERMAN
5244 WESTMINSTER
41 KINGSBURY
5150-52 WATERMAN
4477 SAN FRANCISCO
5834 PERSHING
4603 PERSHING
40 WASHINGTON
5714 WATERMAN BLVD

Permit repair ?

STLAPTS wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

This week-
5630 PERSHING
711 N EUCLID
415 DEBALIVIERE
27 LENOX
5621-31 PERSHING
1020 UNION
800 ARLINGTON
35 WASHINGTON
5027 WESTMINSTER
5273 WASHINGTON
53 WESTMORELAND
4338 NATURAL BRIDGE
4410 WASHINGTON
30 WASHINGTON
5583 WATERMAN
5244 WESTMINSTER
41 KINGSBURY
5150-52 WATERMAN
4477 SAN FRANCISCO
5834 PERSHING
4603 PERSHING
40 WASHINGTON
5714 WATERMAN BLVD

Permit repair ?

they are all affected by tornado. still lots of them pending for insurance approval before they can apply for permits. 

STLAPTS wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

This week-
5630 PERSHING
711 N EUCLID
415 DEBALIVIERE
27 LENOX
5621-31 PERSHING
1020 UNION
800 ARLINGTON
35 WASHINGTON
5027 WESTMINSTER
5273 WASHINGTON
53 WESTMORELAND
4338 NATURAL BRIDGE
4410 WASHINGTON
30 WASHINGTON
5583 WATERMAN
5244 WESTMINSTER
41 KINGSBURY
5150-52 WATERMAN
4477 SAN FRANCISCO
5834 PERSHING
4603 PERSHING
40 WASHINGTON
5714 WATERMAN BLVD

Permit repair ?

Permits issued to repair tornado damage.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

STLAPTS wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

quincunx wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2025

This week-
5630 PERSHING
711 N EUCLID
415 DEBALIVIERE
27 LENOX
5621-31 PERSHING
1020 UNION
800 ARLINGTON
35 WASHINGTON
5027 WESTMINSTER
5273 WASHINGTON
53 WESTMORELAND
4338 NATURAL BRIDGE
4410 WASHINGTON
30 WASHINGTON
5583 WATERMAN
5244 WESTMINSTER
41 KINGSBURY
5150-52 WATERMAN
4477 SAN FRANCISCO
5834 PERSHING
4603 PERSHING
40 WASHINGTON
5714 WATERMAN BLVD

Permit repair ?

Permits issued to repair tornado damage.

do we have to apply for permit before any repair jobs are undertaken?
also, do we need another permit after the job is done or is it only inspection?