that corner is in some sort of no/little progress time warp...TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑May 24, 2025Stacked Burger taking over Pi space on Euclid. Guessing potential opening delay on account of the Tornado.
I'm not trying to be some argumentative web forum weirdo, but save the dinosaur moving around a bit, it's looked basically the same for a year. I've chatted with the guys working on it many times in the past year. I've heard "we'll be opening soon" many times. In March, I was told "we'll be open by Cinco De Mayo." yet, here we are....I no longer ask.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑May 29, 2025Session has table and chairs in. Once the rehab / remediation was done the interior has come together in a few months.
I'm not trying to be some argumentative web forum weirdo, but save the dinosaur moving around a bit, it's looked basically the same for a year. I've chatted with the guys working on it many times in the past year. I've heard "we'll be opening soon" like 3X. In March, I was told "we'll be open by Cinco De Mayo." yet, here we are. I no longer ask.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑May 29, 2025Session has table and chairs in. Once the rehab / remediation was done the interior has come together in a few months.
https://www.feastmagazine.com/restaurants/news/tower-grove-farmers-market-tee-rak-thai-alada-poodtajan-shaw-restaurant-openings/article_ac561ee5-fa73-4586-b40e-affc7cd46aa3.htmlTee Rak will open its first brick-and-mortar restaurant in the former SweetArt Bakeshop & Café space in Shaw.
Apparently they closed like 10 other locations as well. The Breastaurant industry just isn’t what it once was.soulardx wrote:just saw that the Downtown Hooters has closed. no idea who actually goes to these places anymore but I suspect the STLBJ will have a large story on the closing soon. Downtown's struggles drive clicks.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q= ... t.%20louis
It was open Sunday.soulardx wrote: ↑Jun 04, 2025just saw that the Downtown Hooters has closed. no idea who actually goes to these places anymore but I suspect the STLBJ will have a large story on the closing soon. Downtown's struggles drive clicks.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q= ... t.%20louis
The loss is loss of a well known brand restaurant that will most likely now sit empty for the foreseeable future. In terms of food or culture, not much was lost. Still a net negative though.MRNHS wrote: ↑Jun 04, 2025Yeah it's not a big loss, per se, but a loss is a loss and there is now one less bar and restaurant open downtown so overall a negative. I was actually there a few weeks ago after not going for like 15 years and it seemed somewhat busy. It was nice to grab a beer and a bite after 10 PM - not a ton of places still open that offer that.
Turns out the breastaurant business is a bust.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jun 04, 2025Apparently they closed like 10 other locations as well. The Breastaurant industry just isn’t what it once was.soulardx wrote:just saw that the Downtown Hooters has closed. no idea who actually goes to these places anymore but I suspect the STLBJ will have a large story on the closing soon. Downtown's struggles drive clicks.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q= ... t.%20louis
I agree as well, I think you need NYC-like density to justify a over one mile east-west park in the middle of downtown. Since we clearly do not have that, it creates several small islands around downtown that make it necessary to walk several blocks when trying to get to another island. And the garages just add to that. I am all for tying all of downtown together, which in my opinion means we should target anything west of City Garden for development, but also other areas like the dead space in the Peabody Plaza block (just south of the building along Market), the dead space just west of the Bank of America building, the Shannon building, and yes, the garages. Restaurants and retail cannot be successful if they are the only shop within a few blocks. I think we are a long way from tearing down the Kiener garages, but at least with some added density around them, it could potentially justify more restaurants and retail.RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2025I think I'm a pretty positive St. Louis person, but it's stuff like those garages that make the Gateway Mall a wholly underwhelming experience.
The effort and investment that St. Louis puts into the land surrounding the Mall and the national park is embarrassing. It's mostly dead space and parking garages.
I may be alone in this, but I honestly think I'd tear up the majority of the Gateway Mall west of City Garden. Serra Sculpture Park, Poelker Park, and Memorial Plaza would be marketed to developers. I'd leave Aloe Plaza in front of Union Station alone, but the rest would be fair game.
Isn't there a Jimmy John's in there too?GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jun 09, 2025These garages are such an embarrassment right on the front porch of our city. The west garage is now completely vacant outside of the Enterprise kiosk. The East Garage has Chase bank, Chili Mac's, and a print shop. All major restaurant spaces are now vacant.
What is the hold up with getting these leased? Why doesn't the owner spruce the place up to attract more tenants? Can political pressure be added to get this problem moving in the right direction?
