It sounds like you're saying that there are no individuals in Congress, all democrats are the same and there is no issue whatsoever getting them all to go along with whatever the "party" decides on every issue they vote on, so forget the people that any of these policies benefit, let's just let them die while we wait for something perfect to come alongMarkHaversham wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024I'm extremely aware of every facet of the ACA as both a former Democrat and an insurance professional. The ACA was the bare minimum needed to keep the status quo shambling along without fixing the fundamental problems with health care. The fact that it was a material improvement just goes to show how awful and inhumane the prior system was, but the ACA is still mostly as bad most of the time. Millions of Americans still can't afford health care, they just got taxed for care they couldn't afford to use. Not to mention skyrocketing costs and collapsing provider networks across the country that Democrats are doing nothing about. At least people have insurance they can't cover the deductible on to pay for the hospital that closed.gary kreie wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024On Dems public option for healthcare "refusal" -- some of you are too young or have short memories. Democrats wanted a public option for health care, like Medicare for all, but as you may know, it would never have passed Congress under Obama with Republicans and blue-dog democrats from the South still in Congress back then. So Obama had to dial back to a version Romneycare for the ACA invented by the Heritage Foundation which kept Insurance companies and their profits in the loop. Still, the ACA was a HUGE improvement.MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Democrats refused to create a public option for health care, refused to raise the federal minimum wage, refused to support unions (card check, rail strike), refused to legalize abortion, refused to control police violence, and support an ongoing genocide in Gaza.
I'm sure there are people who don't support Harris because of misogyny, but not nearly as many as Democrats would like to pretend. She seems to have a significantly higher approval rating than Biden, for instance.
1. I still recall the large meeting at McDonnell Douglas where I worked just before the ACA, when the insurance rep stated that now there would be a lifetime limit of $1 million on their payouts. An employee spoke up and said that could be used up fast in a very serious illness like cancer and drive the family to bankruptcy. The rep replied they think only a few will hit that. Fortunately ACA outlawed lifetime limits on ALL health insurance payouts forever.
2. A pre-medicare-age co-worker of mine had serious heart failure issues. But he was still working just for the healthcare insurance. He thought he couldn't retire because no insurance company would insure him due to his pre-existing condition. I informed him that under the newly passed ACA that was illegal for all insurance companies. So he did retire as he should have and got health care insurance and hence was not bankrupted by his numerous healthcare bills.
Fundamentally the problem is that health care is incompatible with capitalism, and Democrats will never fix that voluntarily.
It's meaningless to say "the Democrats wanted a public option but couldn't get it through the Democrats in Congress". They could've easily passed it, they had like 3/5 of both houses. They put rules in place to prevent themselves from being able to pass it, then said they couldn't pass it. They do this with every major issue, they bury it in bureaucracy and tell voters they tried their best. "Sorry, we needed 60 votes to pass it, but we only had 58. We need 50 votes to change the rules to pass it with 51 but we only had 49 votes for a rule change. It's all because of the bad Democrats, but remember to vote blue no matter who. Anyway, will your donation be by cash or check?"
Seems like you hear whatever you want to hear, regardless of reality and present it as "fact"MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024I think the fact that 80% of what I hear in support of Harris is along the lines of "she doesn't tell racist jokes" tells me everything I need to know about her material impact on our lives.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Just a reminder that Trump’s rally speakers made racist “jokes” about black people and watermelon. For those keeping score, no racist jokes were heard at Kamala Harris’ recent campaign events.
Love brain dead lefties that are helping elect an actual fascist. Love it. Thanks guys, useless waste of resources.
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Seems very unlikely to me that AZ votes red anytime soon. The state has undergone a massive demographic shift toward the left (a shift that has maintained its pace into this decade). Gallego is annihilating Lake in the polling.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Here is where I'm at
i think these are the 3 most likely outcomes, Harris wins in 2.
You’re right; it was unfair. You may actually join David Duke in voting for Jill Stein.goat314 wrote: ↑Oct 28, 2024Black voters turnout is going to be lower this election. I tried to tell people this, but I was just called a Trump supporter.gary kreie wrote: ↑Oct 28, 2024Any idea why voting lines in near North County are so low, compared to the rest of the county?
Line lengths here:
https://stlouiscovotes.maps.arcgis.com/ ... istance=15
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Its going to be close.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Seems very unlikely to me that AZ votes red anytime soon. The state has undergone a massive demographic shift toward the left (a shift that has maintained its pace into this decade). Gallego is annihilating Lake in the polling.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Here is where I'm at
i think these are the 3 most likely outcomes, Harris wins in 2.
people get lost in the party ID in early voting, GOP has about a 100,000 ballot edge right now but alot of AZ voters are registered under no party and in 2020, GOP had a 300,000 ballot edge and lost by 11,000 votes. Polling by U of Arizona and Marist has Harris up 56-44 with those that have already voted in AZ.
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Wait times in NoCo looks fine today. Slow in Bellefontaine Neighbors and Black Jack, but that’s not strange. That’s not exactly an employment hub area of the region.gary kreie wrote: ↑Oct 28, 2024Any idea why voting lines in near North County are so low, compared to the rest of the county?
Line lengths here:
https://stlouiscovotes.maps.arcgis.com/ ... istance=15
Ive read the same is true in NC. I sure hope so because the democrats will not win Georgia. The election board in GA will burn dem ballots if they have to to return a Trump W. And their new election laws basically give them that authority.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Its going to be close.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Seems very unlikely to me that AZ votes red anytime soon. The state has undergone a massive demographic shift toward the left (a shift that has maintained its pace into this decade). Gallego is annihilating Lake in the polling.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Here is where I'm at
i think these are the 3 most likely outcomes, Harris wins in 2.
people get lost in the party ID in early voting, GOP has about a 100,000 ballot edge right now but alot of AZ voters are registered under no party and in 2020, GOP had a 300,000 ballot edge and lost by 11,000 votes. Polling by U of Arizona and Marist has Harris up 56-44 with those that have already voted in AZ.
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Maybe Democrats should try not being useless or something, like maybe stop strike-breaking or committing genocides I dunno just spitballing here.Auggie wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Love brain dead lefties that are helping elect an actual fascist. Love it. Thanks guys, useless waste of resources.
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The democrats are somehow simultaneously radical leftists and phoney do nothing liberals.
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Committing genocides? What a serious personMarkHaversham wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Maybe Democrats should try not being useless or something, like maybe stop strike-breaking or committing genocides I dunno just spitballing here.Auggie wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024Love brain dead lefties that are helping elect an actual fascist. Love it. Thanks guys, useless waste of resources.
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Well they must be perfectly balanced then, since only rhetoric matters and not material reality.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024The democrats are somehow simultaneously radical leftists and phoney do nothing liberals.
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It doesn’t get much more material than the Infrastructure Bill and the Inflation Reduction Act
You can list as many examples as you want of policies that have helped the country broadly and individuals you know specifically, apparently it's all useless unless it fits a very specific perfect ideal (and even then I suspect there'd still be whining). Apparently we should just sit on our hands letting things get worse and have people suffer until this mythical shining perfect policy and the requisite number of ideologically-pure politicians somehow apaprates into the halls. of power.JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Oct 29, 2024It doesn’t get much more material than the Infrastructure Bill and the Inflation Reduction Act
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Hate the Democrats all you want; I certainly think they're mostly spineless and never go far enough. That said, you cannot even begin to change the politics of the country and implement any of the improvements you want if you allow the party advocating for literal fascism to take hold in America to come to power.
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Fantastic GDP, Jobs, Inflation, and Gas Price reports dropped this morning. But keep telling me how Democratic economic policy is catastrophic.
The U.S. debt spiked half a TRILLION in the past month, I know the numbers don't lie, but sometimes context matters a bit. That spending is propping those numbers up, setting us up for...catastrophe.
Good thing economists agree that the adult running for president has a plan…
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^ hasn’t the country’s plan for debt always been that inflation will take care of it long term?
Yeah that's been true for the most part historically. If you look here you can see US debt as a % of GDP, which automatically adjust for inflation:dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Oct 30, 2024^ hasn’t the country’s plan for debt always been that inflation will take care of it long term?
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The ... _380318393
We're close to historic highs now, though we've dipped down a bit over the past couple of years, and were also around this high in the 1950s. The big things that dropped the debt to GDP ratio were high upper marginal tax rates and decreased defense spending in the 50s, and high economic growth and decreased defense spending in the 90s. The big things that caused it to spike were big reductions in the upper marginal tax rate in the 80's, 00's, and 10's.
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Does anyone know when are the campaigns supposed to stop per the rules?
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I assume on Election Day when polls close since there's nothing left to do at that time. Unless a candidate loses and claims that the election was stolen or rigged, then you deal with that campaign for whoever knows how long.stlurbanist wrote: ↑Oct 30, 2024Does anyone know when are the campaigns supposed to stop per the rules?
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Is it true that we have only paper ballots statewide? Mo Leg and Ashcroft got rid of electronic balloting? Or am i misinformed? Was told at early voting location that no electronic ballots, when asked why the short answer was "Missouri State Legislature." Took a lot longer than i had anticipated, which explains the lines.






