Although not one of my preferred options, at least it would activate the building. If there is some residential/mixed use included then even better
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Is it even a business. IMHO Vertical farming is pretty much a silly idea. Its a gimmick. It could only work as a gimmick. Short of a zombie apocalypse, it will NEVER compete with planar farming. The only way to justify it is ancillary benefits to a building such as reduced heating a cooling cost (maybe) and a giant assumed quality of life multiplier. Even then it doesn't have to be a farm. To maximize those benefits you would select plants that optimized for those factors. Not food production which requires a significantly higher maintenance, and timely harvesting.
Green roofing is different and while still expensive, i think it could potentially be justified for new build, but tough to retrofit.
Also fwiw i am a proponent of less sprawl in large part because i believe we should keep the agricultural land used for what its highest purpose usually is, which is agriculture.
Green roofing is different and while still expensive, i think it could potentially be justified for new build, but tough to retrofit.
Also fwiw i am a proponent of less sprawl in large part because i believe we should keep the agricultural land used for what its highest purpose usually is, which is agriculture.
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There will be no farming in the building. Plans out later this summer.
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One high-rise elevator shaft converted into the Tower of Terror St. Louis edition. Calling it nowdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 11, 2024There will be no farming in the building. Plans out later this summer.
A lot of people are terrified of downtown, so this would be on brand.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Apr 11, 2024One high-rise elevator shaft converted into the Tower of Terror St. Louis edition. Calling it nowdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 11, 2024There will be no farming in the building. Plans out later this summer.
Is it kind of in-line with the last proposal? Or do we just have to wait?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 11, 2024There will be no farming in the building. Plans out later this summer.
After your conversation, how confident do you feel about their ability to deliver. On a scale of 1 to 10. 5 being no more/less likely than previous owners.dbInSouthCity wrote:There will be no farming in the building. Plans out later this summer.
Well he was also given 1 to 10 with 5 being no more or less likely than previous when all the previous failed. So 5 and under basically are fail.
Two building permits-
INTERIOR ALTERATIONS - CEILING & FLOORING PER PLANS
INTERIOR EXPLORATORY DEMOLITION ONLY
INTERIOR ALTERATIONS - CEILING & FLOORING PER PLANS
INTERIOR EXPLORATORY DEMOLITION ONLY
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I can tell you guys the plans but I’d have to nuke the forum
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That's a chance I'm willing to take. Tell away!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 27, 2024I can tell you guys the plans but I’d have to nuke the forum
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^Somehow I read that as skating park. Now I'm wondering what a skydiving skater park would look like. But if they go that way they ought call it Bell 1 Sk8r.
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Is it a tear down and total new build?
At 4 million to acquire and 150mil to build a new 30+ story apartment tower seems...possible? Could alleviate the parking issue that way. What's the current/most recent plan? 300 mil redevelopment cost, 100 mil tax credits awarded, but still with no parking?
At 4 million to acquire and 150mil to build a new 30+ story apartment tower seems...possible? Could alleviate the parking issue that way. What's the current/most recent plan? 300 mil redevelopment cost, 100 mil tax credits awarded, but still with no parking?
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rough math: 1.46 million ftsq / 44 floors = 33,181 per floor. So each could be 10 of those.
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Building isn’t getting demolished. Too much free tax credit money
Building can handle parking decks but that will be the last resort. Owner is looking to buy the lot behind where Bailey’s range was for a small garage.
Also the building is in very good condition.
Building can handle parking decks but that will be the last resort. Owner is looking to buy the lot behind where Bailey’s range was for a small garage.
Also the building is in very good condition.
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Would it cost over $50MM to fully demolish this site?
They just had it put through the federal landmark process and placed on the national register of historic places. Doubtful.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2024Is it a tear down and total new build?
At 4 million to acquire and 150mil to build a new 30+ story apartment tower seems...possible? Could alleviate the parking issue that way. What's the current/most recent plan? 300 mil redevelopment cost, 100 mil tax credits awarded, but still with no parking?
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Sounds practical, and knew the building was fairly solid. And to reiterate i said possible not likely. I'm prone to rampant speculation when deprived of the facts, hahadbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2024Building isn’t getting demolished. Too much free tax credit money
Building can handle parking decks but that will be the last resort. Owner is looking to buy the lot behind where Bailey’s range was for a small garage.
Also the building is in very good condition.