Good stuff! And the record-breaking 4 and 0 start hasn't been bad either.
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I'd almost swear my grandmother, who warshed her dishes in the kitchen zinc, might have said "St. Lousians." It's tickling an old corner of my brain. (And for the record, she was a native. Never lived anywhere else. Just had a very very old St. Louis accent that's more or less gone now, sadly. The one where St. Louis is said almost "sint LOOus" with just the tiniest hint of a u before the final s so that it's almost one syllable. Forgive me, but I miss it.)
Anyway, yes, great video.
Anyway, yes, great video.
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My dad pronounces the city like "Sane Luhss," and sometimes it's closer to "San Luhss."
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^I miss the old accents more and more all the time somehow. I expect you do, but . . . treasure those quirks while you can!
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It's a fading record of a time before the whole planet was homogenized into a single corporate culture slurry.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023^I miss the old accents more and more all the time somehow. I expect you do, but . . . treasure those quirks while you can!
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^Good point. Most, ~95%+, MLS games will only be available on MLS Season Pass, which is only available through the Apple TV+ app. I think you have to have an Apple TV+ subscription and then an additional subscription to MLS Season Pass, which makes it incredibly difficult for an average person to stumble upon and become a fan. Kind of short-sighted of MLS to bury it's games so far into a streaming service.soulardx wrote:Would a STL City MLS game get 10% of that that NASCAR total in TV viewership? Heck, it probably didn't hit 1% of that 3.5M. No hyperbole.
You do not need an AppleTV subscription to get the games, just the MLS subscription. It's the same as MLB and the other major sports do just without an independent branded app and without local blackouts.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023^Good point. Most, ~95%+, MLS games will only be available on MLS Season Pass, which is only available through the Apple TV+ app. I think you have to have an Apple TV+ subscription and then an additional subscription to MLS Season Pass, which makes it incredibly difficult for an average person to stumble upon and become a fan. Kind of short-sighted of MLS to bury it's games so far into a streaming service.soulardx wrote:Would a STL City MLS game get 10% of that that NASCAR total in TV viewership? Heck, it probably didn't hit 1% of that 3.5M. No hyperbole.
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Ah, ok. Didn't know you could get MLS without already subscribing to Apple TV+. Only difference is that, I believe, there's no choice for RSN's to carry MLS games, correct? It's either the Season Pass or the random few games that are on Fox or FS1/2._nomad_ wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023You do not need an AppleTV subscription to get the games, just the MLS subscription. It's the same as MLB and the other major sports do just without an independent branded app and without local blackouts.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023^Good point. Most, ~95%+, MLS games will only be available on MLS Season Pass, which is only available through the Apple TV+ app. I think you have to have an Apple TV+ subscription and then an additional subscription to MLS Season Pass, which makes it incredibly difficult for an average person to stumble upon and become a fan. Kind of short-sighted of MLS to bury it's games so far into a streaming service.soulardx wrote:Would a STL City MLS game get 10% of that that NASCAR total in TV viewership? Heck, it probably didn't hit 1% of that 3.5M. No hyperbole.
That’s correct. Fox has some but all are on apple. The first 4 away games (2 played, 2 upcoming) are free on apple so far. You only need an Apple ID no subscriptionBart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023Ah, ok. Didn't know you could get MLS without already subscribing to Apple TV+. Only difference is that, I believe, there's no choice for RSN's to carry MLS games, correct? It's either the Season Pass or the random few games that are on Fox or FS1/2._nomad_ wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023You do not need an AppleTV subscription to get the games, just the MLS subscription. It's the same as MLB and the other major sports do just without an independent branded app and without local blackouts.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023^Good point. Most, ~95%+, MLS games will only be available on MLS Season Pass, which is only available through the Apple TV+ app. I think you have to have an Apple TV+ subscription and then an additional subscription to MLS Season Pass, which makes it incredibly difficult for an average person to stumble upon and become a fan. Kind of short-sighted of MLS to bury it's games so far into a streaming service.
Apparently sports bars with DirecTV can still get the games instead of having to buy a bunch of Apple TV boxes or other streaming devices. This will be the same deal the NFL will have when they move Sunday Ticket to Google/You Tube TV._nomad_ wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023You do not need an AppleTV subscription to get the games, just the MLS subscription. It's the same as MLB and the other major sports do just without an independent branded app and without local blackouts.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023^Good point. Most, ~95%+, MLS games will only be available on MLS Season Pass, which is only available through the Apple TV+ app. I think you have to have an Apple TV+ subscription and then an additional subscription to MLS Season Pass, which makes it incredibly difficult for an average person to stumble upon and become a fan. Kind of short-sighted of MLS to bury it's games so far into a streaming service.soulardx wrote:Would a STL City MLS game get 10% of that that NASCAR total in TV viewership? Heck, it probably didn't hit 1% of that 3.5M. No hyperbole.
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^As long as their screen is some kind of smart device it probably has Apple TV prepackaged on it. And even if it doesn't, it's just an ap and any fairly modern set should have the capacity to connect to WiFi and download the thing. My wife's TV is a "roku ready" device and had Apple on it from the beginning, though we hadn't used it. (Along with Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime, and a host of other ap based streaming services.) Your typical TV set at this point is really a specialized computer, rather like a tablet or smartphone, just with a very different form factor and specifications. Obviously if your set is older it won't have the kind of memory or processor power required to run even the most dead simple applications, but . . . most modern ones do. And you can download stuff onto them just like a phone. (Her TV didn't have Crunchyroll pre-installed, but it's on there now.)
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^ and ^^Although the TVs could probably stream Apple TV, the Apple TV subscription isn't licensed for commercial locations. DirectTV has contracted the commercial side of things from Apple.
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^Fair enough. You can't get a commercial subscription then? I've never actually used anything like cable or Direct TV. Simply didn't have a TV after 1992, so that's a side of the world I don't really know. I wonder if Apple will leave it like that or eventually move to a commercial licensing model cutting out the middle man.
Which is largely due to the fact that Apple TV+ has locked up the broadcast rights to nearly all the games. Apple TV+ is a great service, but it's pretty far down the list of U.S. streaming services in terms of their subscription numbers (estimates put it around 25M in the U.S., 40M-50M global). And the number of Apple TV+ subscribers who also have the MLS Season Pass is probably not even a tenth of their overall subscription base, so we're talking about less than 1% of the U.S. population having viewing access to all MLS games. Extrapolate that to local numbers, and I'm guessing that fewer than 50K people in the entire metro area are even able to watch most City SC games.soulardx wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023No matter what Centene's new leadership claimed, it's probably just as simple as MLS just not being a sport with a critical mass of TV viewership, badly limiting a chance for wider awareness for whatever brand/offer Centene wants to promote.gary kreie wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023With all the excitement about soccer in St. Louis, I'm surprised the club has not been able to find a buyer for the stadium name.
Centene had bought the stadium naming rights, but then backed out saying they wanted to invest in more medical oriented sponsorship. So it was with some surprise when I saw that Centene sponsored the Ambetter Health 400 NASCAR race in Atlanta last Sunday on TV. Ambetter is Centene Corporation's Health Insurance Marketplace product. I guess car wrecks generate more healing opportunities than soccer?
You can't use AppleTV+ to estimate MLS streaming. MLS Season Pass is independent from AppleTV+, it's not an add on, they are separate streaming services that just use same app, subscribing to one is not necessary to subscribe to the other.DTGstl314 wrote: ↑Mar 23, 2023Which is largely due to the fact that Apple TV+ has locked up the broadcast rights to nearly all the games. Apple TV+ is a great service, but it's pretty far down the list of U.S. streaming services in terms of their subscription numbers (estimates put it around 25M in the U.S., 40M-50M global). And the number of Apple TV+ subscribers who also have the MLS Season Pass is probably not even a tenth of their overall subscription base, so we're talking about less than 1% of the U.S. population having viewing access to all MLS games. Extrapolate that to local numbers, and I'm guessing that fewer than 50K people in the entire metro area are even able to watch most City SC games.soulardx wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023No matter what Centene's new leadership claimed, it's probably just as simple as MLS just not being a sport with a critical mass of TV viewership, badly limiting a chance for wider awareness for whatever brand/offer Centene wants to promote.gary kreie wrote: ↑Mar 21, 2023With all the excitement about soccer in St. Louis, I'm surprised the club has not been able to find a buyer for the stadium name.
Centene had bought the stadium naming rights, but then backed out saying they wanted to invest in more medical oriented sponsorship. So it was with some surprise when I saw that Centene sponsored the Ambetter Health 400 NASCAR race in Atlanta last Sunday on TV. Ambetter is Centene Corporation's Health Insurance Marketplace product. I guess car wrecks generate more healing opportunities than soccer?
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Seems like it should be illegal?DTGstl314 wrote: ↑Mar 23, 2023Extrapolate that to local numbers, and I'm guessing that fewer than 50K people in the entire metro area are even able to watch most City SC games.
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Every MLS season ticket holder gets free access to MLS Season Pass. Every T-Mobile and MetroPCS customer also gets it included with their plan. I'm not sure how much it's helping AppleTV+ subscription numbers but it should be getting the app on a lot of phones and smart TVs.
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Public support money + anti-trust law? Why did we pay for a stadium to acquire a team we can't watch?
We didn't pay for the stadium. It got voted down.
https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2017/04 ... oted-down/
Citypark was close to 100% privately paid for by the Taylor family with the following public allowances.
(https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 688e2.html)
The stadium is largely privately financed, an anomaly among arenas across the country: $5.7 million of tax credits; 25 years of real estate tax abatement worth $35 million; amusement tax abatement worth $22 million; plus 2% in special sales taxes at CityPark.
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That's not how it works? No professional team broadcasts or streams their games for free. Why should this be any different?
Because he says so.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Mar 23, 2023That's not how it works? No professional team broadcasts or streams their games for free. Why should this be any different?
Plus we're in uncharted territory with the MLS being the first league to go 95%ish streaming-only.
- With the Diamond/Sinclair/Ballys Sports bankruptcy we could soon see the Blues and Cardinals on streaming shortly.
- Supposedly the NBA's new TV contract with Google could involve 50-75% of the games being on streaming.
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You'd buy a ticket to the game? Or pay to watch it, just like the Blues, Cardinals, Lakers, Canucks, Bears or any other team?
Or listen on Y98 radio?Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Mar 23, 2023You'd buy a ticket to the game? Or pay to watch it, just like the Blues, Cardinals, Lakers, Canucks, Bears or any other team?
https://www.stlcitysc.com/news/st-louis ... l-and-kxok