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PostJan 13, 2016#1

We have slept on it, time to move on and a time for a new focus...MLS :D



We already have one MLS owner on board.




Top 3 locations for me. (NRiverfront is not an ideal location)

1.English style- in a middle of a neighborhood.


Dont worry about traffic- most fans would bike down from TGS

2.Next to Metrolink (minus space new hospital takes)


3. The NSA Stadium.

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PostJan 13, 2016#2

^ I take it #1 is TGS? Never thought about that. But have thought a lot about #2... Midtown Madness! Maybe also on the other side of the elevated lanes from Busch.

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PostJan 13, 2016#3

#1 is a bit south of TGS....0.7 of a mile from the most southern part of TGS (Gravios Plaza)

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PostJan 13, 2016#4

^ ah, got it now.... the underutilized light industrial/warehouse area along Gustine. Very interesting. Maybe Companion Bakery (da bastards!) could be the official bakery!

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PostJan 13, 2016#5

I have to be honest, historically I haven't been a soccer fan at all. I have mocked its relative unpopularity in America and have rolled my eyes at its fanbase that stereotypically seems comprised almost entirely of hipsters, but the more I think, watch, and learn, the more I find myself getting behind this idea.

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PostJan 13, 2016#6

The southernmost part of TGS is actually Chippewa, a block or so south of Gravois Plaza.

If you're not crazy about soccer, how about an NBA D-League team? Memphis has the Cards' minor league team. St. Louis could have the minor league team for the Grizzlies. I think it'd be a hit here, and a solid/stable tenant for the Chaifetz (Scottrade. Would be too big).

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shimmy wrote:I have to be honest, historically I haven't been a soccer fan at all. I have mocked its relative unpopularity in America and have rolled my eyes at its fanbase that stereotypically seems comprised almost entirely of hipsters, but the more I think, watch, and learn, the more I find myself getting behind this idea.
Same here, although I've liked Women's Soccer (Brazil) for some time now. I actually made it to an Athletica game once when they were here. I too am now on board with MLS, anything really to get St. Louis off the mat. I doubt I'll get into MLS but I hope it's embraced here and draws a diverse crowd, that's always been my biggest turn off with Soccer in America in general.

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PostJan 13, 2016#8

^ I'm not a huge soccer fan either but I see it's value as being another thing in our toolkit to make the region fun and vibrant... I'd probably go to a game or two a year with the family... Same thing as my position with NFL, if a good plan can be presented I'd support it. And of course MLS seems a more modest undertaking,

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wabash wrote:The southernmost part of TGS is actually Chippewa, a block or so south of Gravois Plaza.

If you're not crazy about soccer, how about an NBA D-League team? Memphis has the Cards' minor league team. St. Louis could have the minor league team for the Grizzlies. I think it'd be a hit here, and a solid/stable tenant for the Chaifetz (Scottrade. Would be too big).
I can say for a fact a D-League team would be a punch in the gut, especially considering the NBA talent St. Louis is producing. Chaminade is a hotter ticket than the D-League. No I think NBA fans would much rather play host to various NBA pre-season games than be a D-League city if the NBA itself is off the table.

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wabash wrote:If you're not crazy about soccer, how about an NBA D-League team? Memphis has the Cards' minor league team. St. Louis could have the minor league team for the Grizzlies. I think it'd be a hit here, and a solid/stable tenant for the Chaifetz (Scottrade. Would be too big).
NBA D League? We're relegating St. Louis to the status of Erie PA, Fort Wayne IN, Des Moines IA and Sioux Falls SD?

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PostJan 13, 2016#11

I just think a partnership with SLU soccer would be the best for an MLS team - +money from SLU - shared services and the location is next to the metrolink, the old field can be a nice practice facility. SLU would also have to start opening their campus up a bit more. And it'll further push the cortex/grove connection... seems like a good fit? Hell - they could turn the Pevely building into Soccer Lofts/Student Housing?

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pattimagee wrote:I just think a partnership with SLU soccer would be the best for an MLS team - +money from SLU - shared services and the location is next to the metrolink, the old field can be a nice practice facility. SLU would also have to start opening their campus up a bit more. And it'll further push the cortex/grove connection... seems like a good fit? Hell - they could turn the Pevely building into Soccer Lofts/Student Housing?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/sport ... .html?_r=0

There were talks about NYC FC sharing a complex with Columbia U. Not sure if its still an option there... but a SLU/MLS partnership would be amazing. Typically, most MLS teams have a men's D1 soccer team that feeds directly into their U21 and U23 teams. Right now, Ohio State players often play their summer games in the Columbus Crew development system. I know there are other partnerships out there as well.

PostJan 13, 2016#13

dbInSouthCity wrote:We have slept on it, time to move on and a time for a new focus...MLS :D



We already have one MLS owner on board.




Top 3 locations for me. (NRiverfront is not an ideal location)

1.English style- in a middle of a neighborhood.


Dont worry about traffic- most fans would bike down from TGS

2.Next to Metrolink (minus space new hospital takes)


3. The NSA Stadium.

Couple of questions:

1. How big are MLS stadiums usually? Is that lot at Grand & Chouteau big enough?

2. Anyone know how much it is to buy into the league nowadays? It used to be a pretty cheap fee to join the league but I have heard its gone up significantly.

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PostJan 13, 2016#14

For Reference: Sporting KC Stadium (Children's Mercy Park): "The 340,000 square foot, $200 million stadium is anchored in the heart of a 400-acre mixed-use development and is situated in a way that both soccer and event attendees aid in the development’s success." Link (http://populous.com/project/childrens-mercy-park/)

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PostJan 13, 2016#15

^ Pretty interesting development out there... and to answer the question about the SLU owned parcel, yes, it's big enough. I also like it b/c of the access to Metrolink and there is plenty of parking spots around, too. Bars in The Grove would hop, too, and I can see a classic march.

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PostJan 13, 2016#16

A Quick Square-footage estimate via Google Maps... 15.04 acres for Sporting, and that single plot at Grand is 37.35 acres


PostJan 13, 2016#17

The other grand lot is 15.73 acres FWIW

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PostJan 14, 2016#18

dweebe wrote:NBA D League? We're relegating St. Louis to the status of Erie PA, Fort Wayne IN, Des Moines IA and Sioux Falls SD?
I like to think of it more as elevating St. Louis to the level of Los Angeles, Chicago, and Brooklyn. :?


As for MLS location, you'd have to shoehorn the stadium in there and would lose some historic (albeit dilapidated) structures, but I always thought the industrial site at the corner of Gravois & 55 would really bring the hooligan soccer supporters out in droves:


Looks like things went pretty well for FC St. Louis last year, as they finished fourth in attendance out of 24 teams (and yes, that's not a typo, Toronto FC II did have a game where they attracted 50 fans :shock:). Sactown's numbers make me wonder if they're on the short list for MLS consideration.

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PostJan 14, 2016#19

^Sacramento is more than on the shortlist. It's a borderline shoe-in.

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PostJan 14, 2016#20

SI just posted this from the MLS Super Draft -

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/01 ... es-coaches

My guess is that developments of this week will thrust us to being one of the leaders of the expansion candidates.

Everyday attracting a ownership group gets easier

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PostJan 14, 2016#21

Brick City FC?
River City FC?
Mound City FC?
St. Louis HuSTLe?
St. Louis United...FC?

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PostJan 14, 2016#22

I'd be happy with STL United or STL FC (if that ownership was involved and the club was being "elevated" rather than competed with), though I'm not typically a European style name fan, but I've come around.

With that in mind, though, I'd like to see the fans still give the team a nickname. (Which does happen in Europe—the Gunners for instance.) I'm thinking take a nod from our former hockey allies to the east and go with "Rivermen."

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PostJan 14, 2016#23

dbInSouthCity wrote:We have slept on it, time to move on and a time for a new focus...MLS :D

1.English style- in a middle of a neighborhood.


Dont worry about traffic- most fans would bike down from TGS
This would be great!

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PostJan 14, 2016#24

jstriebel wrote:I'd be happy with STL United or STL FC (if that ownership was involved and the club was being "elevated" rather than competed with), though I'm not typically a European style name fan, but I've come around.

With that in mind, though, I'd like to see the fans still give the team a nickname. (Which does happen in Europe—the Gunners for instance.) I'm thinking take a nod from our former hockey allies to the east and go with "Rivermen."
Bring back the St. Louis Gunners!

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PostJan 14, 2016#25

My favorite name is "Inter St. Louis". That hasn't been used in the MLS yet. United is too common.

Inter means together. What say you?

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