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sc4mayor wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2022

She’s back!

Katherine Pinner says she's staying in St. Louis County executive race
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... -top-story

Seems like she's definitely capable of managaing 1,000,000 county residents because of (R)easons.

Maybe hiding from the public is the right way to go for a lot of these not ready for prime time candidates. The Republican nominee trying to unseat Rep. Peter Meredith in the 80th district went on Nextdoor and couldn't even handle that before he started calling everyone who asked him to defend his fringe positions "trolls".  It was honestly so bad it made the Dr. Oz campaign look like a well oiled professional machine. 

Baltimore Jack wrote:Maybe hiding from the public is the right way to go for a lot of these not ready for prime time candidates. The Republican nominee trying to unseat Rep. Peter Meredith in the 80th district went on Nextdoor and couldn't even handle that before he started calling everyone who asked him to defend his fringe positions "trolls".  It was honestly so bad it made the Dr. Oz campaign look like a well oiled professional machine. 

I just looked up Kirk Hilzinger's Twitter. Yikes...

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^I don't know if he removed all comments from his Nextdoor post promoting his campaign or he just muted me.  But it was horrendous. People challenging him on his very public positions and him basically saying he won't back down and anyone who wouldn't vote for him anyway is a "troll". 

I truly hope Kirk Hilzinger comes in third behind the Libertarian nominee. It would serve the GOP right for complaining the city residents never give their party a chance when they nominate candidates like that. 

Back to the STL County race I've heard conspiracy theorists claim that Pinner is a Democratic mole. Which is hilarious and just denial that the STL County GOP is hurtling towards irrelevancy. 

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Aug 26, 2022

I would like to start a conspiracy theory that she was hired by Sam Page to defeat Shamed Dogan, who had a shot but a slim one at winning. She did and now that her usefulness is over, she dropped out.

I guess my attempt at a crazy, over the top conspiracy theory is one some people actually believe.

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Aug 31, 2022

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Aug 26, 2022

I would like to start a conspiracy theory that she was hired by Sam Page to defeat Shamed Dogan, who had a shot but a slim one at winning. She did and now that her usefulness is over, she dropped out.

I guess my attempt at a crazy, over the top conspiracy theory is one some people actually believe.

It's not that over-the-top, it happens all the time. I don't have any particular reason to think this lady is an example, but it's not crazy.

Shamed Dogan did not have any chance of winning so not sure why Page would bother.

I think the thing that keeps running through my mind the most about Pinner winning is what it implies about the number of low-information voters. 

Did 33k people vote just for a name? 

Sarah K wrote: ↑

Sep 01, 2022

I think the thing that keeps running through my mind the most about Pinner winning is what it implies about the number of low-information voters. 

Did 33k people vote just for a name? 

I think it's more they voted against  a name

sc4mayor wrote:She’s back!

Katherine Pinner says she's staying in St. Louis County executive race
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... -top-story

She’s back, OUT!

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 1847a1bda3


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Republicans run a sh*t show primary then get rewarded with a free choice?

They should get a pass on this election and four years to work on their strategy.

I’d like the nominate myself for the position because if I’m going to lose, because of my age, present residency, and chosen party because of this election, I want to lose having some fun.

Apparently Dogan cannot be named the GOP nominee due to Missouri's sore loser law.

Mark Mantovani was chosen by the Republicans,

Well things just got interesting.

Imagine being so bored with millions that you’re going to burn another one again

Mark almost has to be the favorite though doesn’t he? He had a good showing vs Page in the Dem primary last time. Plenty of those people will vote for Mark again on top of the republicans he will get now.

Making a lot of assumptions…

If the vote count is the same as 2020
Mark needs to peel off 19% of Dem votes from Page while keeping the Republicans votes.

Obviously easier said than done but it seems doable.

I can't see Sam Page losing. 

I can see the election being closer, but Sam Page winning. Mantovani did well against Stenger and lost to Sam Page in August 2020 by about 8.5 points. Things could be different, but I don't see it. With 56 days to the election, time is not on Mantovani's side. The only benefits he has are money and name recognition. Whether that's enough to win, we'll see. It bought Trudy Busch Valentine the Democrat Senate nomination.

I have a feeling in this environment having a D next to his name is all Page will need.

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Sep 13, 2022

I can see the election being closer, but Sam Page winning. Mantovani did well against Stenger and lost to Sam Page in August 2020 by about 8.5 points. Things could be different, but I don't see it. With 56 days to the election, time is not on Mantovani's side. The only benefits he has are money and name recognition. Whether that's enough to win, we'll see. It bought Trudy Busch Valentine the Democrat Senate nomination.

Partisanship is a hell of a drug, Trudy didn't have to cross that bridge yet.

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Sep 13, 2022

Mark almost has to be the favorite though doesn’t he? He had a good showing vs Page in the Dem primary last time. Plenty of those people will vote for Mark again on top of the republicans he will get now.

Making a lot of assumptions…

If the vote count is the same as 2020
Mark needs to peel off 19% of Dem votes from Page while keeping the Republicans votes.

Obviously easier said than done but it seems doable.

55-45 lose is the best he can do,  most likely 58-42 

So...when did Mantovani switch parties? Was it before yesterday?

EDIT:

Well I guess I shouldn't be so lazy and actually read the story to see he literally did just switch for this campaign. 

It makes for an interesting story but doesn't change the trajectory of this race. Maybe some independents will be swayed but considering Pinner was the choice of Republicans left in STL County who turned out to vote in the August primary Mantovani could just as easily lose a bunch of them who won't take too kindly to this kind of substitute. A lot of them could vote for Schmitt and leave the County Exec line blank in protest.