Does anyone know if the Science Center Foundation has ever discussed selling those three corner lots they own?
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
You were spot on. GoogleMaps has already updated the streetview for this stretch of Manchester from January to February and the balconies do help by hiding the white doors and by being consistent with all of the other metal work on the facade in being black.Miss Shell wrote: ↑Feb 08, 2022I'm sure the balconies might hide the white doors a little. But that is an unfortunate looking building. At first glance, I thought the green was still unfinished material...
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Someone I was speaking to hinted that the site has significant contamination challenges (?some funny business in the past) that the owners may not want unearthed.pattimagee wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2022Does anyone know if the Science Center Foundation has ever discussed selling those three corner lots they own?
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
Who was the prior owner, and what was on it? It has been vacant as long as I have been around. In Geo Stl Anheuser-Busch owned the site from 1998-2001, when the Science Center bought it. I don't know who owned the site prior to Anheuser-Busch, what they used it for, or if anyone owned it before them.imran wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2022Someone I was speaking to hinted that the site has significant contamination challenges (?some funny business in the past) that the owners may not want unearthed.pattimagee wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2022Does anyone know if the Science Center Foundation has ever discussed selling those three corner lots they own?
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
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At the rate things are going in the Grove, the opportunity cost of not developing this lot will dwarf potential environmental remediation costs. Just don't let it become a QuickTrip
I didn’t think much of it but something to the effect of ?AB making a shady deal to bury stuff rather than dispose of it properly. The person I spoke with used to be associated with the science center and said it was a messy situation. Fwiwrbeedee wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2022Who was the prior owner, and what was on it? It has been vacant as long as I have been around. In Geo Stl Anheuser-Busch owned the site from 1998-2001, when the Science Center bought it. I don't know who owned the site prior to Anheuser-Busch, what they used it for, or if anyone owned it before them.imran wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2022Someone I was speaking to hinted that the site has significant contamination challenges (?some funny business in the past) that the owners may not want unearthed.pattimagee wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2022Does anyone know if the Science Center Foundation has ever discussed selling those three corner lots they own?
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
I thought that used to be the Schnucks dairy warehouse/distribution center?rbeedee wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2022Who was the prior owner, and what was on it? It has been vacant as long as I have been around. In Geo Stl Anheuser-Busch owned the site from 1998-2001, when the Science Center bought it. I don't know who owned the site prior to Anheuser-Busch, what they used it for, or if anyone owned it before them.imran wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2022Someone I was speaking to hinted that the site has significant contamination challenges (?some funny business in the past) that the owners may not want unearthed.pattimagee wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2022Does anyone know if the Science Center Foundation has ever discussed selling those three corner lots they own?
4551 & 4571 Manchester and 1170 Kingshighway
It was a gas station before the warehouse was built.southcitygent wrote: ↑Feb 19, 2022It was a Schnucks warehouse.
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Here are the Sanborn maps from 1904 and 1951. Looks like a brick building on the corner, a used car lot, and gas station were on the wedge. Probably the gas station that is the problem.
There are so many underground fuel tanks littering the city impeding development. Too bad we can't tax drivers to remediate their messes.
$150k building permit application submitted for rehab of 4375 Gibson
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^Sounds like more good news. Hopefully they can fill a few of the empty lots next.
$890k building permit application submitted for rehab of 1201 Tower Grove at Swan in Forest Park Southeast
It's probably just a post-COVID thing, but the activity at Choteau Park is great to see. Lots of kids all over the playground equipment and the basketball courts getting heavy use.
But the dog park at Choteau Park wasn't getting used at all: but my guess is anyone nearby is over at Bar-K which looked to be crazy busy yesterday.
But the dog park at Choteau Park wasn't getting used at all: but my guess is anyone nearby is over at Bar-K which looked to be crazy busy yesterday.
$299k building permit application submitted for a new home at 4570 Gibson.
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Are they tearing down the current building? Such a shame. It has lots of character.
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Oh, that's good. Google put that address on the house next to the vacant lotbfor some reason.
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Per @pattimagee request, I took a quick look at Green Street property ownership in the area, particularly along the Vandeventer stretch. Doesn't look like too many surprises, although I'm not sure if it has been publicized that they appear to own the parcels east of Bar K, east of the RR tracks along Vandeventer. Could be mentioned further up-thread, but don't quite recall. Note that there could be other properties not shown here that are owned by Green Street through less easy to decipher subsidiaries. The three shades of green have three different owner mailing addresses, but appear to share something else in common, such as owner name, etc.
In blue are the apparent UIC-owned properties. Similar to above, there are likely other properties owned by UIC that aren't as easy to determine (such as 4130-4145 Park Ave, which I believe is a UIC property), as they have unique owner names and addresses not shared by other properties in the vicinity.
In blue are the apparent UIC-owned properties. Similar to above, there are likely other properties owned by UIC that aren't as easy to determine (such as 4130-4145 Park Ave, which I believe is a UIC property), as they have unique owner names and addresses not shared by other properties in the vicinity.
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Interesting - The other company that I thought was Green Street was the "1403 S Vandeventer Ave" owner Vandeventer LLC. But upon second look the other few I thought were tied to that are just owned by different LLCs titled after the street name.
Thanks for looking that up!
Thanks for looking that up!