^^There's been a long push to expand vaccination against seasonal flu, so I'm not sure that's a good benchmark. The vaccines, while not perfect, do seem to be fairly effective at preventing serious illness and death, even with the Delta strain. I'll be quite content to get boosters every six months to a year for the rest of my life if it means we can go back to living normally without all this masking and social distance crud being mandatory. (Though I do hope masks will become/remain socially acceptable for those as wish to wear them.) Personally, I figure the vaccine is a darn small price to pay to get the world back. (Soon, hopefully. I miss my overseas friends and family badly.)
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Dems begin souring on vaccine mandates
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/12/07/dems-begin-souring-on-vaccine-mandates-495358
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/12/07/dems-begin-souring-on-vaccine-mandates-495358
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I know that the Democrat governor of Kansas has soured on them.
I figured that was just her trying to get re-elected as she has an election in 2022 to think about.
I suppose that's probably what all of those dems are thinking about.
I figured that was just her trying to get re-elected as she has an election in 2022 to think about.
I suppose that's probably what all of those dems are thinking about.
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Well, if it saves half a million lives a year, there's a strong case for vaccinating 2-4x a year forever. I don't know why it would be "counterproductive" but it's hard to say whether it's "worth it" without knowing the actual cost of the vaccine doses.SB in BH wrote: ↑Dec 06, 2021At the risk of also being labeled an idiot, I'll attempt to ask a serious question:chris fuller wrote: ↑Dec 05, 2021Is It Time to Change the Definition of ‘Fully Vaccinated’?
https://khn.org/news/article/fully-vaccinated-definition-boosters-ambiguity/
At what point do we consider the diminishing returns of additional doses of a non-sterilizing vaccine and conclude that more doses are unnecessary and possibly counterproductive? I think I can answer that for the drugmakers, but is there a public health answer? Is it if/when the dominant strain is *only* as bad as seasonal influenza in terms of morbidity and mortality? The common cold? Does it make a difference that currently the feds are picking up the tab?
Note, my correct-thinking PMC brethren, I'm not questing the wisdom of "THE SCIENCE" or it's patron saint the blessed Anthony Fauci. Just wondering what, if anything, is the end-state of the drive to vaccinate?
It would be much better and cheaper to wear masks and distance to eliminate COVID, but politically that ship has probably sailed. Unless there's a variant that kills rich people, we'll either keep vaccinating or just "live" with a new biggest cause of death and -6 years of life expectancy.
Edit: There's no reason to assume COVID will ever only be as bad as current seasonal influenza within our lifetimes.
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^ I urge you quite vigorously to get vaccinated "2-4x a year forever".
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I urge you and your family to stay healthy and safe. If that requires some extra shots then so be it, it's a lot easier than creating a whole new diet and exercise regime to stave off heart disease.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021^ I urge you quite vigorously to get vaccinated "2-4x a year forever".
If I could get a semiannual shot to prevent heart disease and wear a mask to prevent cancer then I'd do that, too.
The idea of the whole human race wearing masks for the rest of eternity is not a remotely practical one.MarkHaversham wrote: ↑Dec 08, 2021It would be much better and cheaper to wear masks and distance to eliminate COVID, but politically that ship has probably sailed. Unless there's a variant that kills rich people, we'll either keep vaccinating or just "live" with a new biggest cause of death and -6 years of life expectancy.
Well I already get the flu shot every year, having to get an extra shot at the same time doesn't really sound like the end of the world to me.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021^ I urge you quite vigorously to get vaccinated "2-4x a year forever".
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Plenty of healthy and athletic people have died from this virus. Legions more are left with debilitating long COVID symptoms.
https://fox2now.com/news/coronavirus/controversial-st-louis-county-mask-mandate-back-in-court-today/
According to this article: "The mask mandate in St. Louis County is no longer in effect."
That means it was in effect before yesterday. Who knew?
According to this article: "The mask mandate in St. Louis County is no longer in effect."
That means it was in effect before yesterday. Who knew?
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Do you also disable the ABS and airbags on your car, chain closed fire exits whenever you go to the movies/concerts and disregard expiration dates on milk and raw meat, as well?Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Yeah, and a friend of mine had her father die "of covid" one week after the first pfizer shot. Another friend developed myocarditis so badly that he couldn't get out of bed some days.
I'll take my chances with simply being fit and healthy. Unlike the rest of you, I don't get scared easily enough to do a 180 and start worshiping at the feet of big pharma, nor do I desire a pseudo-social-credit system being developed so I can lord over my "lessers".
Your grasp of understanding anything is truly poor:Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021No because there isn't a coordinated government/media/medical program set up to try to ruin my life if I ride without an airbag.Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Do you also disable the ABS and airbags on your car, chain closed fire exits whenever you go to the movies/concerts and disregard expiration dates on milk and raw meat, as well?Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Yeah, and a friend of mine had her father die "of covid" one week after the first pfizer shot. Another friend developed myocarditis so badly that he couldn't get out of bed some days.
I'll take my chances with simply being fit and healthy. Unlike the rest of you, I don't get scared easily enough to do a 180 and start worshiping at the feet of big pharma, nor do I desire a pseudo-social-credit system being developed so I can lord over my "lessers".
And what kind of loser goes to movies nowadays? Do you also collect action figures and models of the Enterprise?
- One week into getting one dose of the vaccine does not make you immune to Covid, nor does 2, nor does 2 plus a booster.
- Getting a Covid vaccine does not remove the possibility of also getting myocarditis.
- You're "fit and healthy" until you aren't.
- There isn't a coordinated conspiracy against you, and getting a shot once in a while doesn't "ruin" anyone's life.
- It is illegal to disable an airbag, without NHTSA consent.
Your grasp of pseudo-HTML formatting is trash.
Aren't you liberal types supposed to grasp this concept easily? Or is maintaining your "favored" status within society more important?
No gifs needed, clown.
I'm not saying it does. I'm saying the vaccine killed him and they called it a covid death because....why not?[li]One week into getting one dose of the vaccine does not make you immune to Covid, nor does 2, nor does 2 plus a booster. [/li]
The pure cope in this, lmao. Even the CDC has told you sycophants to shut up and go get checked if you develop heart issues after the shots. Stop with the denial, its pathetic.[li]Getting a Covid vaccine does not remove the possibility of also getting myocarditis. [/li]
I know you PMC creeps want me dead pretty badly, but you're gonna have to try harder than that, fatso.[li]You're "fit and healthy" until you aren't. [/li]
Oh no it's not against me, just against everyone like me that stands in the way of maximum profits for psychopathic companies that find new ways to redefine evil.[li]There isn't a coordinated conspiracy against you, and getting a shot once in a while doesn't "ruin" anyone's life. [/li]
Aren't you liberal types supposed to grasp this concept easily? Or is maintaining your "favored" status within society more important?
Don't care.[li]It is illegal to disable an airbag, without NHTSA consent. [/li]
No gifs needed, clown.
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Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Your grasp of pseudo-HTML formatting is trash.
I'm not saying it does. I'm saying the vaccine killed him and they called it a covid death because....why not?[li]One week into getting one dose of the vaccine does not make you immune to Covid, nor does 2, nor does 2 plus a booster. [/li]
The pure cope in this, lmao. Even the CDC has told you sycophants to shut up and go get checked if you develop heart issues after the shots. Stop with the denial, its pathetic.[li]Getting a Covid vaccine does not remove the possibility of also getting myocarditis. [/li]
I know you PMC creeps want me dead pretty badly, but you're gonna have to try harder than that, fatso.[li]You're "fit and healthy" until you aren't. [/li]
Oh no it's not against me, just against everyone like me that stands in the way of maximum profits for psychopathic companies that find new ways to redefine evil.[li]There isn't a coordinated conspiracy against you, and getting a shot once in a while doesn't "ruin" anyone's life. [/li]
Aren't you liberal types supposed to grasp this concept easily? Or is maintaining your "favored" status within society more important?
Don't care.[li]It is illegal to disable an airbag, without NHTSA consent. [/li]
No gifs needed, clown.
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(Beginning rant...)
^ & ^^ Hey y'all, it's your right - and everyone else's - to get the vaccine or to not get the vaccine. Sure, certain businesses can insist on getting the vaccines as private sector entities. Yes, certain businesses in sectors & industries that are considered essential to the nation - such as national defense - can have a government (their customer) mandate that these people are vaccinated. Very much, many sectors & industries have had vaccine mandates that have been in effect for decades - for example, restaurants for Hep A - that have not been questioned previously. I recognize that we have the right to get the vaccine or not, and I also recognize the fact that our choice here can be accepted or rejected by others. If a bar won't let me in because I can't show them my vaccine card, then so be it. Anything other than this acceptance of the way things are is selfish and/or a misunderstanding of how our individual rights operate with respect to the individual rights of other persons, including businesses. The politicization of the Covid vaccines has gotten simply stupid, to the point where many people cannot separate their rights to do what they want to do and the rights of others to respond accordingly as they see fit. Further, where partisan philosophical ideologies conflict with scientific understanding, I'll always choose science. No matter how eloquently one can write and speak about how they believe one plus one equals three, that does not make it a fact.
Personally, I've got three shots of Pfizer in my arms, not mandated by my employer and/or business partners, and not having anything to do with my centrist political views, and not having anything to do with my travel preferences. Why have I done this? Because I recognize the pandemic as being very real and don't want to get sick again. I've had Covid last year, and I can absolutely say that it sucks. The doctors and medical researchers I know, and with whom I've spoken, have all said the same thing: this is very real, and we need to be vaccinated.
Now, I don't care about PC or any of that, and I don't want to stifle free speech for the sake of PC. Same time, I don't want free speech to muffle fact. I will almost always take my understanding of things from factual experts with learned degrees and real world experience more than I'll take it from amateurs with little to no understanding of the subject matter.
Yes, this disease will continue to mutate, and new variants will emerge. More often than not, this will take place outside of the United States because the US is not even 5% of the world's population. While we have 60-70% of our nation vaccinated, the rest of the world is not. Hence, "pandemic". Even if we achieve a degree of "herd immunity" (which we haven't yet), that won't necessarily keep us immune from something extraneous that we haven't had touch us before. It's going to keep going until it mutates into something that won't get us sick anymore, like the Spanish Flu.
My personal take: Now that we have vaccines going into kids 5-12 y/o, I no longer GAF for the majority of unvaccinated adults who are refusing to get vaccinated as a matter of personal choice. I give deference to the fact that Christian Scientists (the religion, not some carryall term) more often than not refuse medication as a tenet of their faith. They have that choice, which I say is misguided, but whatever. I also empathize for those who are immunocompromised and cannot receive the vaccine right now; they don't even have the choice we all do. I have family in this category. I get it. Here's hoping they stay healthy throughout. Otherwise, by and large I don't care anymore. In full libertarian mindset, I must abide by the choices of others who choose to remain non-vaccinated. Same time, I tell them all that they're playing with fire. When they die, it'll be less tragic.
So, yeah, we get what y'all are saying. You've said it a whole hell of a lot. We just don't think your opinion is important here. I'd rather have this thread be about news on the pandemic's spread - FFS, I'm most interested in how this whole thing is effecting the economy, of STL and beyond. The rates of disease spread, hospitalizations, and deaths are what I'm following here. IDGAF about hearing how you don't believe in the facts any more. That's not PC, but just being tired of reading the snark. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't post that stuff, but I will say that I'm personally tired of reading it. Sometimes it's funny, so if you're going to keep doing it, please at least make it funny.
In the interim, please exercise and lose weight! There's an incredibly high correlation between the unhealthy and those dying. That's why it's called a comorbidity! Or don't, that's your choice, just don't be mad at me when you're posthumously nominated for the Herman Cain Award.
(End rant)
^ & ^^ Hey y'all, it's your right - and everyone else's - to get the vaccine or to not get the vaccine. Sure, certain businesses can insist on getting the vaccines as private sector entities. Yes, certain businesses in sectors & industries that are considered essential to the nation - such as national defense - can have a government (their customer) mandate that these people are vaccinated. Very much, many sectors & industries have had vaccine mandates that have been in effect for decades - for example, restaurants for Hep A - that have not been questioned previously. I recognize that we have the right to get the vaccine or not, and I also recognize the fact that our choice here can be accepted or rejected by others. If a bar won't let me in because I can't show them my vaccine card, then so be it. Anything other than this acceptance of the way things are is selfish and/or a misunderstanding of how our individual rights operate with respect to the individual rights of other persons, including businesses. The politicization of the Covid vaccines has gotten simply stupid, to the point where many people cannot separate their rights to do what they want to do and the rights of others to respond accordingly as they see fit. Further, where partisan philosophical ideologies conflict with scientific understanding, I'll always choose science. No matter how eloquently one can write and speak about how they believe one plus one equals three, that does not make it a fact.
Personally, I've got three shots of Pfizer in my arms, not mandated by my employer and/or business partners, and not having anything to do with my centrist political views, and not having anything to do with my travel preferences. Why have I done this? Because I recognize the pandemic as being very real and don't want to get sick again. I've had Covid last year, and I can absolutely say that it sucks. The doctors and medical researchers I know, and with whom I've spoken, have all said the same thing: this is very real, and we need to be vaccinated.
Now, I don't care about PC or any of that, and I don't want to stifle free speech for the sake of PC. Same time, I don't want free speech to muffle fact. I will almost always take my understanding of things from factual experts with learned degrees and real world experience more than I'll take it from amateurs with little to no understanding of the subject matter.
Yes, this disease will continue to mutate, and new variants will emerge. More often than not, this will take place outside of the United States because the US is not even 5% of the world's population. While we have 60-70% of our nation vaccinated, the rest of the world is not. Hence, "pandemic". Even if we achieve a degree of "herd immunity" (which we haven't yet), that won't necessarily keep us immune from something extraneous that we haven't had touch us before. It's going to keep going until it mutates into something that won't get us sick anymore, like the Spanish Flu.
My personal take: Now that we have vaccines going into kids 5-12 y/o, I no longer GAF for the majority of unvaccinated adults who are refusing to get vaccinated as a matter of personal choice. I give deference to the fact that Christian Scientists (the religion, not some carryall term) more often than not refuse medication as a tenet of their faith. They have that choice, which I say is misguided, but whatever. I also empathize for those who are immunocompromised and cannot receive the vaccine right now; they don't even have the choice we all do. I have family in this category. I get it. Here's hoping they stay healthy throughout. Otherwise, by and large I don't care anymore. In full libertarian mindset, I must abide by the choices of others who choose to remain non-vaccinated. Same time, I tell them all that they're playing with fire. When they die, it'll be less tragic.
So, yeah, we get what y'all are saying. You've said it a whole hell of a lot. We just don't think your opinion is important here. I'd rather have this thread be about news on the pandemic's spread - FFS, I'm most interested in how this whole thing is effecting the economy, of STL and beyond. The rates of disease spread, hospitalizations, and deaths are what I'm following here. IDGAF about hearing how you don't believe in the facts any more. That's not PC, but just being tired of reading the snark. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't post that stuff, but I will say that I'm personally tired of reading it. Sometimes it's funny, so if you're going to keep doing it, please at least make it funny.
In the interim, please exercise and lose weight! There's an incredibly high correlation between the unhealthy and those dying. That's why it's called a comorbidity! Or don't, that's your choice, just don't be mad at me when you're posthumously nominated for the Herman Cain Award.
(End rant)
"Yeah, and a friend of mine had her father die "of covid" one week after the first pfizer shot. Another friend developed myocarditis so badly that he couldn't get out of bed some days."Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Yeah, and a friend of mine had her father die "of covid" one week after the first pfizer shot. Another friend developed myocarditis so badly that he couldn't get out of bed some days.
I'll take my chances with simply being fit and healthy. Unlike the rest of you, I don't get scared easily enough to do a 180 and start worshiping at the feet of big pharma, nor do I desire a pseudo-social-credit system being developed so I can lord over my "lessers".
also you.
"Unlike the rest of you, I don't get scared easily"
From the first quote it does sound like you scare easily....scared of a vaccine it sounds like to me. Needles are scary but if my 2 year old can get a shot like a champ so can you.
Seconding this…well said GC (per usual).gone corporate wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021(Beginning rant...)
^ & ^^ Hey y'all, it's your right - and everyone else's - to get the vaccine or to not get the vaccine. Sure, certain businesses can insist on getting the vaccines as private sector entities. Yes, certain businesses in sectors & industries that are considered essential to the nation - such as national defense - can have a government (their customer) mandate that these people are vaccinated. Very much, many sectors & industries have had vaccine mandates that have been in effect for decades - for example, restaurants for Hep A - that have not been questioned previously. I recognize that we have the right to get the vaccine or not, and I also recognize the fact that our choice here can be accepted or rejected by others. If a bar won't let me in because I can't show them my vaccine card, then so be it. Anything other than this acceptance of the way things are is selfish and/or a misunderstanding of how our individual rights operate with respect to the individual rights of other persons, including businesses. The politicization of the Covid vaccines has gotten simply stupid, to the point where many people cannot separate their rights to do what they want to do and the rights of others to respond accordingly as they see fit. Further, where partisan philosophical ideologies conflict with scientific understanding, I'll always choose science. No matter how eloquently one can write and speak about how they believe one plus one equals three, that does not make it a fact.
Personally, I've got three shots of Pfizer in my arms, not mandated by my employer and/or business partners, and not having anything to do with my centrist political views, and not having anything to do with my travel preferences. Why have I done this? Because I recognize the pandemic as being very real and don't want to get sick again. I've had Covid last year, and I can absolutely say that it sucks. The doctors and medical researchers I know, and with whom I've spoken, have all said the same thing: this is very real, and we need to be vaccinated.
Now, I don't care about PC or any of that, and I don't want to stifle free speech for the sake of PC. Same time, I don't want free speech to muffle fact. I will almost always take my understanding of things from factual experts with learned degrees and real world experience more than I'll take it from amateurs with little to no understanding of the subject matter.
Yes, this disease will continue to mutate, and new variants will emerge. More often than not, this will take place outside of the United States because the US is not even 5% of the world's population. While we have 60-70% of our nation vaccinated, the rest of the world is not. Hence, "pandemic". Even if we achieve a degree of "herd immunity" (which we haven't yet), that won't necessarily keep us immune from something extraneous that we haven't had touch us before. It's going to keep going until it mutates into something that won't get us sick anymore, like the Spanish Flu.
My personal take: Now that we have vaccines going into kids 5-12 y/o, I no longer GAF for the majority of unvaccinated adults who are refusing to get vaccinated as a matter of personal choice. I give deference to the fact that Christian Scientists (the religion, not some carryall term) more often than not refuse medication as a tenet of their faith. They have that choice, which I say is misguided, but whatever. I also empathize for those who are immunocompromised and cannot receive the vaccine right now; they don't even have the choice we all do. I have family in this category. I get it. Here's hoping they stay healthy throughout. Otherwise, by and large I don't care anymore. In full libertarian mindset, I must abide by the choices of others who choose to remain non-vaccinated. Same time, I tell them all that they're playing with fire. When they die, it'll be less tragic.
So, yeah, we get what y'all are saying. You've said it a whole hell of a lot. We just don't think your opinion is important here. I'd rather have this thread be about news on the pandemic's spread - FFS, I'm most interested in how this whole thing is effecting the economy, of STL and beyond. The rates of disease spread, hospitalizations, and deaths are what I'm following here. IDGAF about hearing how you don't believe in the facts any more. That's not PC, but just being tired of reading the snark. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't post that stuff, but I will say that I'm personally tired of reading it. Sometimes it's funny, so if you're going to keep doing it, please at least make it funny.
In the interim, please exercise and lose weight! There's an incredibly high correlation between the unhealthy and those dying. That's why it's called a comorbidity! Or don't, that's your choice, just don't be mad at me when you're posthumously nominated for the Herman Cain Award.
(End rant)
Lot of f*cking stupidity in this thread today.
You no longer gaf? Yeah, I don't believe you. People like you do this all the time, "I don't care anymore". Yet you still push for the mandates. Seems you care a lot. But you're too cowardly to say it plainly.gone corporate wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021My personal take: Now that we have vaccines going into kids 5-12 y/o, I no longer GAF for the majority of unvaccinated adults who are refusing to get vaccinated as a matter of personal choice. I give deference to the fact that Christian Scientists (the religion, not some carryall term) more often than not refuse medication as a tenet of their faith. They have that choice, which I say is misguided, but whatever. I also empathize for those who are immunocompromised and cannot receive the vaccine right now; they don't even have the choice we all do. I have family in this category. I get it. Here's hoping they stay healthy throughout. Otherwise, by and large I don't care anymore. In full libertarian mindset, I must abide by the choices of others who choose to remain non-vaccinated. Same time, I tell them all that they're playing with fire. When they die, it'll be less tragic.
So, yeah, we get what y'all are saying. You've said it a whole hell of a lot. We just don't think your opinion is important here. I'd rather have this thread be about news on the pandemic's spread - FFS, I'm most interested in how this whole thing is effecting the economy, of STL and beyond. The rates of disease spread, hospitalizations, and deaths are what I'm following here. IDGAF about hearing how you don't believe in the facts any more. That's not PC, but just being tired of reading the snark. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't post that stuff, but I will say that I'm personally tired of reading it. Sometimes it's funny, so if you're going to keep doing it, please at least make it funny.
In the interim, please exercise and lose weight! There's an incredibly high correlation between the unhealthy and those dying. That's why it's called a comorbidity! Or don't, that's your choice, just don't be mad at me when you're posthumously nominated for the Herman Cain Award.
(End rant)
"Don't give them medical coverage, its their choice!!" Ok, lets play this game. Give me huge discounts on my medical coverage then. I am a fit, healthy person, and I am at next to no risk for a huge myriad of EXPENSIVE medical procedures. If I am not going to be provided care, then charge me less. I am being forced to subsidize fatties, alcoholics. I already pay way more to cover the asses of people. Want to start denying me coverage? Then charge me less? Agree?
Or, do you not agree, and you are simply playing games and trying to punish the unvaccinated, despite imploring us to no end about *how much you just don't care*"?
Right dude, I get it, you don't care. You don't care a hell of a lot.
"You've said it a whole hell of a lot."
Once again pretty rich coming from Mr. Paragraphs of "I just don't care".
Oh, and finally:
"We just don't think your opinion is important here."
This from you, larping as some corporate insider, when the vast majority of your "scoops" have been complete bullsh*t?
Go ahead and ban me, you get better insider info from the nerds at reddit anyway.
I purposely don't look at this thread very often. I decided to swing by today. Jesus Christ, what a sh*t show. I sincerely regret my decision (to visit this thread, not to get the vaccine).
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Aesir wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021You no longer gaf? Yeah, I don't believe you. People like you do this all the time, "I don't care anymore". Yet you still push for the mandates. Seems you care a lot. But you're too cowardly to say it plainly.gone corporate wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021My personal take: Now that we have vaccines going into kids 5-12 y/o, I no longer GAF for the majority of unvaccinated adults who are refusing to get vaccinated as a matter of personal choice. I give deference to the fact that Christian Scientists (the religion, not some carryall term) more often than not refuse medication as a tenet of their faith. They have that choice, which I say is misguided, but whatever. I also empathize for those who are immunocompromised and cannot receive the vaccine right now; they don't even have the choice we all do. I have family in this category. I get it. Here's hoping they stay healthy throughout. Otherwise, by and large I don't care anymore. In full libertarian mindset, I must abide by the choices of others who choose to remain non-vaccinated. Same time, I tell them all that they're playing with fire. When they die, it'll be less tragic.
So, yeah, we get what y'all are saying. You've said it a whole hell of a lot. We just don't think your opinion is important here. I'd rather have this thread be about news on the pandemic's spread - FFS, I'm most interested in how this whole thing is effecting the economy, of STL and beyond. The rates of disease spread, hospitalizations, and deaths are what I'm following here. IDGAF about hearing how you don't believe in the facts any more. That's not PC, but just being tired of reading the snark. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't post that stuff, but I will say that I'm personally tired of reading it. Sometimes it's funny, so if you're going to keep doing it, please at least make it funny.
In the interim, please exercise and lose weight! There's an incredibly high correlation between the unhealthy and those dying. That's why it's called a comorbidity! Or don't, that's your choice, just don't be mad at me when you're posthumously nominated for the Herman Cain Award.
(End rant)
"Don't give them medical coverage, its their choice!!" Ok, lets play this game. Give me huge discounts on my medical coverage then. I am a fit, healthy person, and I am at next to no risk for a huge myriad of EXPENSIVE medical procedures. If I am not going to be provided care, then charge me less. I am being forced to subsidize fatties, alcoholics. I already pay way more to cover the asses of people. Want to start denying me coverage? Then charge me less? Agree?
Or, do you not agree, and you are simply playing games and trying to punish the unvaccinated, despite imploring us to no end about *how much you just don't care*"?
Right dude, I get it, you don't care. You don't care a hell of a lot.
"You've said it a whole hell of a lot."
Once again pretty rich coming from Mr. Paragraphs of "I just don't care".
Oh, and finally:
"We just don't think your opinion is important here."
This from you, larping as some corporate insider, when the vast majority of your "scoops" have been complete bullsh*t?
Go ahead and ban me, you get better insider info from the nerds at reddit anyway.
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Aesir’s rant mimics most other denialist/conspiratorial rants I’ve seen. Ignorance and stupidity work together and create delusions that that everything is not as it seems and we’re all lemmings. His enlightened facade is a cover for his reality: he doesn’t understand how anything works.
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STOP BEING SO MEAN TO Aesir!!!!JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Dec 10, 2021Aesir’s rant mimics most other denialist/conspiratorial rants I’ve seen. Ignorance and stupidity work together and create delusions that that everything is not as it seems and we’re all lemmings. His enlightened facade is a cover for his reality: he doesn’t understand how anything works.