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walker wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2020

Byrd & Barrel on Jefferson just south of Cherokee is closed, permanently.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblo ... re-closing

They're planning a new, larger Byrd & Barrel at Watson & Hampton.

Do you know where exactly? I'm not seeing any buildings at that intersection that look restaurant-friendly save for Bobby's Place. 

Miss Shell wrote: ↑

Sep 01, 2020

walker wrote: ↑

Aug 30, 2020

Byrd & Barrel on Jefferson just south of Cherokee is closed, permanently.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblo ... re-closing

They're planning a new, larger Byrd & Barrel at Watson & Hampton.

Do you know where exactly? I'm not seeing any buildings at that intersection that look restaurant-friendly save for Bobby's Place. 

Yes. Bobby's Place will be the new location of Byrd and Barrel. Bobby's Place has been closed for a while

Hop Shop is reopening this weekend


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Took a nice long walk down the whole stretch of Cherokee yesterday and as a whole the street seemed thriving. It's a shame that one antique store still has board up from last spring with all kinds of writing on it that doesn't reflect the neighborhood. But what are ya gonna do?

According to the sales tax numbers Cherokee did a lot better than other areas.

Golden gems is leaving Cherokee and moving to the old Fubar space in midtown.

Apotheosis Comics Opening on Cherokee Street in Foam Coffee's Former Home

This is a great get for Cherokee. Great anchor for such a high visibility corner.

^ did they vacate the S. Grand space?

Second location

^ sweet.

^Good for them! Glad to see them having success.

I went to Cherokee on Saturday for my first time in a while. Gotta admit it seemed like there were an awful lot of vacant storefronts with for lease signs in the window. I sure hope some businesses move in soon.

The heart of Cherokee (west of Jefferson) has been struggling but to the east things are looking a lot better. Barely any vacancy. 

When I went through, the street between Earthbound brewery and Yaqui’s was closed for an open street party type of thing…that had a nice size crowd. La Vellesana as always was doing a nice patio business. Otherwise pretty quiet on the West of Jefferson side. The East of Jefferson side was completely quiet except for Macs Local Eats/Bluewood which was packed pre-pandemic style. That said I was there a little later after most of the antique shops closed for the day, so maybe more people were out earlier in the day. I’ve heard there have been a steady number of houses getting rehabbed and flipped in the surrounding BPW neighborhood. You’d think if that continues the businesses will eventually follow.

The only things that seem to drive substantial foot traffic East of Jefferson are Bluewood and the Mud House.
West of Jefferson it's Earthbound/Yaquis/La Vallesana and the bars on the other side of the street: Fortune teller/whisky ring/B-Side. 
Other than that it's pretty dead

Last couple of times I've been on Cherokee it's been pretty bustling. 

Especially compared to years ago (a decade or more). 

Weird to come here and hear that it's going in the wrong direction. Not what I have experienced at all. 

Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑

Jun 22, 2021

Last couple of times I've been on Cherokee it's been pretty bustling. 

Especially compared to years ago (a decade or more). 

Weird to come here and hear that it's going in the wrong direction. Not what I have experienced at all. 

I wasn't around 10 years ago, so can't talk about that trend, but it definitely feels quieter than it did when I first moved to STL about 4 years ago. 

Cherokee Street is a place I've been meaning to get to more often, but last few times I was there recently it was pretty busy I thought.

Huge line at Taco's & Ice Cream, a big tent setup down the street selling street food, and a pretty decent amount of foot traffic walking by.

I noticed a few vacancies but overall most storefronts were still occupied, I'd say Cherokee Street is holding steady, and likely will continue to see people return over the summer. 

Cherokee is, in my opinion, South St. Louis's best business district. It has a mixture of business types on both sides of Jefferson, and it's surrounded by neighborhoods that offer a mixed housing type (affordable and more expensive). It's culturally rich and diverse. It's the best we have to offer in a way and is more authentic than Euclid is now. Besides the businesses, I also like the collection of old commercial buildings. Some need a cleaning, as well as streetscape improvements, but overall, there's a charm here and that charm is really "St. Louis in the hey-day". 

As for the vacancy and vibrancy concerns, I'm not concerned. Businesses just went through a year of large reductions in customers or flat out getting no customers as a result of the pandemic. That took its toll on the mom and pop shops, not just here in St. Louis, but across the nation. Cherokee Street is resilient and it will become vibrant again as businesses move into some of the vacant storefronts and people continue to go back out to enjoy life. The decrease in Cherokee Street vibrancy we are seeing now is no where near what it was at this time last year, but it's definitely not up to pre-pandemic levels yet.

I say by next Spring, it will be fully vibrant again, and maybe even more than before. New businesses will open that will attract new types of people to the business strip. People have creative minds, and space on Cherokee is cheap enough for people with a business idea to get their start.

shadrach wrote: ↑

Jun 22, 2021

Just drove down it on Fathers Day for the first time in over a year. I find the street rather janky and odd.  There’s no ‘there there,’ no gravitational center. Hasn’t been the same since Globe Drug closed,

Besides the part about the Globe Drug closing, I think you described why a lot of people like Cherokee.