Doubt it. Anything interesting was probably lost when they went through there in the 1960's to build the ramps.2020STL wrote: ↑Mar 20, 2021Well there was a natural spring pretty deep there so maybe archeological things could be left behind or something
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that they will not be reopening Market Street in mid-March...
Interesting because, unless I missed it, there was no mention of a second crane on the project schedule. Maybe they want to accelerate construction for some reason, hmm? Cue the speculation...2020STL wrote: ↑Mar 27, 2021drove by today... They now have Two cranes (I'm not a crane geek so I don't know the model) and they have started work on the eastern steel structure. They are working at crazy speeds id say by the end of next month they should be definitely done with the outside frame possibly starting the canopy structure!
You are correct. Out of curiosity, I looked up MLS field dimension guidelines to see how they compare with a CFL field, i.e. how easy it is for them to share a stadium.framer wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2021I'm not sure about the MLS, but in FIFA, fields are allowed to have varying dimensions; sort of like outfields in baseball.
| League | Length (yds.) | Width (yds.) |
| MLS/Premier | 110-120 | 70-80 |
| NCAA Soccer | 115-120 | 70-80 |
| NFL/XFL | 120* | 53 1/3 |
| CFL | 150* | 65 |
It’s been detailed here further back...but the Market overpass is being replaced. Of course Market will be reopened.chris fuller wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2021whats the plan with Market being closed just west Union Station will Market reopen?
That overpass/bridge was in bad shape. If you'd ever walked across it there were multiple holes where you could see down to the ground/pavement below. Even if the stadium wasn't happening, my guess is the Market bridge would have needed a whole teardown and rebuild anyway.chris fuller wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2021whats the plan with Market being closed just west Union Station will Market reopen?
Would it still be accurate to call it an overpass after the reopening? The replacement appears to be an at-grade street with a small tunnel underneath.
Yeah, it's just a new street on dirt fill, just like the new Clark and 22nd Street connections. It's funny though that the media keeps referring to it as a bridge/overpass/viaduct replacement, as well as emphasizing that, paraphrasing, "the bridge was going to be replaced anyway as part of the new Jefferson interchange".DTGstl314 wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2021Would it still be accurate to call it an overpass after the reopening? The replacement appears to be an at-grade street with a small tunnel underneath.
Kinda splitting hairs don’t ya think? The old overpass is getting torn out and replaced with a new road, which was the point.
I don't think the loss of space under the old Market Street bridge is really that much of a loss. Especially with plenty of surface lots to fill in and around the immediate area/stadium itself .urbanitas wrote: ↑Apr 09, 2021It is a fairly sizeable tunnel, but it's really disappointing that it isn't an overpass, actually, i.e. that they couldn't find a more productive use for all that space than as a dirt depository.
Parking, loading docks, back-of-house, parking, storage, emergency generators, electrical substation, parking, stormwater detention, pedestrian connections between the stadium, team facility basement, and future below-grade garage, and/or parking...dweebe wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2021What exactly would we build below ground, under a new Market Street overpass?
It is open and they road dieted. There are no markings yet and no street lights: but it looks like they lost at least two lanes
According to the drawings it went from a 100' wide 6-lane street with 5' sidewalks, to a 60' wide 4-lane street with a partial pedster refuge.
The missed opportunity of what could have been under Market Street is really a reflection of what they chose to do with the space south of it. That was the point.urbanitas wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2021Parking, loading docks, back-of-house, parking, storage, emergency generators, electrical substation, parking, stormwater detention, pedestrian connections between the stadium, team facility basement, and future below-grade garage, and/or parking...dweebe wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2021What exactly would we build below ground, under a new Market Street overpass?
