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PostMar 17, 2021#626

STL City has released a website dedicated to the stadium and such https://www.stlcitystadium.com/  has some Q&A and new renderings

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PostMar 18, 2021#627

Not off to a good start with 1900 Olive
Our district will be artfully integrated into the fabric of the Downtown West neighborhood. We will bring vitality and drive inspiration through inspiring architecture and public spaces, and through creative uses of infrastructure and technology.

While our stadium district is still in development, ultimately it will be home to a diverse selection of restaurants, bars, living spaces and family experiences.

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PostMar 19, 2021#629

The steel frame of the northwest bar/pavilion is in place, along with about half the columns on the north side of the stadium:

See lots more pics here:

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PostMar 19, 2021#630

Ha! I just noticed that CITY deleted the security fencing from the rendering of their training compound that they are using on their websites. I guess it finally dawned on someone with the team that the optics of a half mile of 8' security fence are not great.



Sans fence:

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PostMar 19, 2021#631

While a good eagle-eye find, I wouldn't put much stock into this. Especially because the very next pic shows a different perspective of the practice fields with the fencing still in place.  They'll need to have some barrier to keep soccer balls from rolling into the streets, and for all we know the non-fencing rendering could have been an older version that someone uploaded by mistake.


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PostMar 19, 2021#632

Laife Fulk wrote:
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While a good eagle-eye find, I wouldn't put much stock into this. Especially because the very next pic shows a different perspective of the practice fields with the fencing still in place.  They'll need to have some barrier to keep soccer balls from rolling into the streets, and for all we know the non-fencing rendering could have been an older version that someone uploaded by mistake.

Yeah, I didn't mean they were actually going to get rid of all the security fences. I'm saying they deleted them from their website rendering for political reasons. 

The press presentation of all those training facility renderings came earlier. That 
 included the first aerial shot of the whole facility which showed all the fencing, which was then deleted when they created their new web page for some reason.

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PostMar 19, 2021#633

The video from Stephen at Schlafly this week is really impressive:

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PostMar 19, 2021#634

urbanitas wrote:
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Yeah, I didn't mean they were actually going to get rid of all the security fences. I'm saying they deleted them from their website rendering for political reasons. 
How do you know they were political reasons?  

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PostMar 19, 2021#635

^ Yeah the only complaints I've heard about this project primarily come from the users here.

The general public seems to be pretty excited.  I haven't heard any consistent b*tching outside of UrbanSTL about fencing, public access, or urban design.

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PostMar 19, 2021#636

OnTheEdge wrote:
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urbanitas wrote:
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Yeah, I didn't mean they were actually going to get rid of all the security fences. I'm saying they deleted them from their website rendering for political reasons. 
How do you know they were political reasons?  
I'm guessing they mean PR more than politics.

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PostMar 19, 2021#637

$50.8M building permit issued for the practice fields, pavilion, training and maintenance buildings.

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PostMar 19, 2021#638

sc4mayor wrote:
Mar 19, 2021
^ Yeah the only complaints I've heard about this project primarily come from the users here.

The general public seems to be pretty excited.  I haven't heard any consistent b*tching outside of UrbanSTL about fencing, public access, or urban design.
🙄 go poll the general public and then get back to us. i would imagine a few in the AA community, for example, aren't as super excited about the new stadium campus as MLS' young white male target demographic. i know you're excited about the team, but let's keep things in perspective here. (also funny how it's "b*tching" when one disagrees with the criticism.)

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PostMar 19, 2021#639

^ No.  People seem to be pretty excited about this, that's just my feeling.  It's ok that it's not yours.  Feel free to go do some of your own polling.

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PostMar 19, 2021#640

Bart Harley Jarvis wrote:
Mar 19, 2021
OnTheEdge wrote:
Mar 19, 2021
urbanitas wrote:
Mar 19, 2021
Yeah, I didn't mean they were actually going to get rid of all the security fences. I'm saying they deleted them from their website rendering for political reasons. 
How do you know they were political reasons?  
I'm guessing they mean PR more than politics.
Nope. I used the appropriate phrase.

But, when you are talking about a half billion dollar real estate development by very wealthy, lily white suburbanites, in a depressed urban area, what is the difference between public relations and politics?

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PostMar 19, 2021#641

^^ as long as we've established that it's your feeling i'm satisfied. what pisses me off is dismissing any criticism of your fave project as b*tching. i'm happy about the team. that doesn't mean i can't criticize aspects of their "urban" campus on a goddamned urban blog.

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PostMar 19, 2021#642

^ I dismiss criticism as b*tching when we're rehashing the same argument for the 10th time.

No one is saying there aren't valid criticisms...it's when some of you keep steering the conversation into things we have no control over that it gets old...and bitchy.  It's just rehashing the same arguments over and over again.

At least I actually live in the St. Louis area and because of my job I meet lots of new people and can say, at least in my anecdotes, there's a lot of excitement around town for this project...and not just with "young, white men," either.

It's like the Foundry thread...I think we all agree there are some concerns with various aspects of that project, but when the thread is hijacked to complain about the parking garage for the 400th time...sorry, but to me that's just b*tching at that point.

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PostMar 19, 2021#643

I'm not going to get bent out of shape and assume a conspiracy because a fence disappeared.

You know what really grinds my gears? 10, 20 or even 30 year trees pictured where none have been or ever will be.


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PostMar 19, 2021#644

dweebe wrote:
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I'm not going to get bent out of shape and assume a conspiracy because a fence disappeared.

You know what really grinds my gears? 10, 20 or even 30 year trees pictured where none have been or ever will be.

Not bent out of shape. I think it's hilarious. And sorry about your gears.

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PostMar 20, 2021#646

dweebe wrote:
Mar 19, 2021
I’ll post the full photo set when I get home later this evening. Other project updates were done too.

PostMar 20, 2021#647

Photos from today...













Site fly around....

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PostMar 20, 2021#648

That's a huge excavation; I wonder if they're uncovering any interesting archeological finds.

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PostMar 20, 2021#649

Well there was a natural spring pretty deep there so maybe archeological things could be left behind or something

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PostMar 20, 2021#650

framer wrote:
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That's a huge excavation; I wonder if they're uncovering any interesting archeological finds.
They found evidence of a dimwitted, barbaric civilization that appears to have used almost the entire property as a massive viaduct that itself was used to access another, even larger viaduct. They're still trying to figure out how those viaducts benefitted the surrounding area, if at all. 

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