Medical marijuana dispensary is on the approved list to open across the street from the Abbott property/Stadium site, at 2001 Market.
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I see 9 crimes in a 30 day period (11/16 to 12/16, 2019) in this area.....almost all theft from vehicle....
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For clarification, it'll be VMO-Ops at 2001 Olive Street. It is good to see that building finally be used for something.Tim wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020Medical marijuana dispensary is on the approved list to open across the street from the Abbott property/Stadium site, at 2001 Market.
That's good, that's the former Imo's that has been boarded up for a decade. At least it will generate activity for the area, although I bet they put their entrance on the parking lot to the west, and fence it all in.LArchitecture wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020For clarification, it'll be VMO-Ops at 2001 Olive Street. It is good to see that building finally be used for something.Tim wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020Medical marijuana dispensary is on the approved list to open across the street from the Abbott property/Stadium site, at 2001 Market.
I guess there isn't any chance they will restore the original facade and storefront, but according to Geo St. Louis that building was built in 1892.
Captain Obvious says, "If the SLMPD is ignoring certain illegal activities occurring under their noses, it's very unlikely to be reported as a crime."dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020I see 9 crimes in a 30 day period (11/16 to 12/16, 2019) in this area.....almost all theft from vehicle....
The Riverfront Times occupies part of it, and USI (insurance broker). Dunno about the rest.quincunx wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2020What's in 2031 Olive? What a sexy building!
Also, the St. Louis Sports Commission is on the 5th or 6th floor.
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Yeah, pretty much. When I lived Downtown and frequented Downtown West bars (El Borracho and Tin Can Locust) - around ten years ago - I had heard of some dude getting busted selling there. Saw others dudes doing the same there years after, which all started after Imo's closed at 20th. I won't go so far as to say "open illicit drug market"; I mean, it wasn't Hamsterdam across from Police Headquarters. That's the "pretty much" part, that I'm not saying "open illicit drug market". But, yeah, a few years ago, Sumdoods had regularly worked that corner lot, slinging crack, and at least one got busted for it.urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020So...just to be clear, we are talking about a city block across the street from the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Dept. headquarters since 2014, and directly between it and it's main parking lot? And you are suggesting that this block was an open illicit drug market for...years?gone corporate wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2020Got to give it up for the building's current owners. Just a couple years ago, guys were openly slinging on this block. Now, it's arguably the most valuable in Downtown West. That's return on investment. That's identifying turnaround potential. They just gotta sell it now and recognize profits, or else they could lose the whole damn thing if they demand too high a price.
The MLS Stadium Proposal is an improvement. This building's owners should get a solid ROI for it.
I walk down there as much as anybody. I don't make any representations as to be able to tell the difference between homeless loiterers from drug-dealing loiterers.Black02AltimaSE wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2020^Come down on a Saturday morning and it's all dog walkers for Stray Rescue between Jefferson and 20th on Market, Pine, Olive, Locust and Washington. There may be some incidental crime around there late at night but I wouldn't consider this a bad part of town.
I've never had any problems myself. It's just a bit uneasy, as nobody's out on the streets except a few homeless/loiterers. And there were definitely more than a few in front of those strip malls on the SW corner of 20th and Olive.
This is the recent crime I referenced:
https://www.kmov.com/news/police-invest ... 31e8a.html
The dirt is flyin'! (ok, it's really just being pushed around, slowly...)GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:Hope somebody can get a time lapse camera set up
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Making moves at the @MLS4theLou stadium site!
The St. Louis Sports Commission certainly has one of the better views of the stadium site, but a webcam on the roof of the Pear-Shaped Inn would be ideal.
Are the three buildings at the southwest corner of 20th and Olive staying?
Nope.dweebe wrote: ↑Feb 19, 2020Are the three buildings at the southwest corner of 20th and Olive staying?
TKFC owns all but one of them (2008 Olive, the one closest to the corner), and the city will apparently use eminent domain to get that property, if they can't agree on a price. It looks like they have started some interior demo on the one-story buildings, but those probably won't come down until they own all of them.
I know they say it’d look bad to leave a single building, but I disagree. I think leaving a component of a classic STL single story building repurposed as a team store or beer garden is a cool idea.
Imagine if they could repurpose it in such a way that it could become the opposing teams HQ each week? They could swap out the flags and give opposing fans a place to start.
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Imagine if they could repurpose it in such a way that it could become the opposing teams HQ each week? They could swap out the flags and give opposing fans a place to start.
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When the plan was still s of Market, I was hoping they'd leave the buildings facing Market and use the gap west of Maggie O'Briens as an entry plaza.
Should he release the property, obviously!
Should the president of the boa participate in a local news outlets gentle hit piece of a successful KC developer who owns a dozen other properties in dw? Probably not.
Also who are these aldermen to complain about “slow movement” on developments? Compared to what? At least he’s a present owner of abandon buildings.
https://www.kmov.com/news/downtown-west ... d4240.html
Should the president of the boa participate in a local news outlets gentle hit piece of a successful KC developer who owns a dozen other properties in dw? Probably not.
Also who are these aldermen to complain about “slow movement” on developments? Compared to what? At least he’s a present owner of abandon buildings.
https://www.kmov.com/news/downtown-west ... d4240.html
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Since some key tax incentives passed the Board today, I thought I'd drive by the site to see what's going on with it.
Here's the photos from three sides, starting with Olive St. (driving East), 20th street, and Market. They've done a lot in a short period of time.
Here's the photos from three sides, starting with Olive St. (driving East), 20th street, and Market. They've done a lot in a short period of time.
- Driving over closed I-64 exit ramp
- Facing site on North side of Market
- Closed I-64 exit ramp
- On 20th, heading toward Market, new Marriott hotel in background
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- On 20th heading toward Market, Ferris Wheel in backgroun
- 20th looking West, Pear Tree Hotel in background
- Olive and 20th
- View from Olive at 22nd street
Most importantly, they've placed the barriers and fencing in a way to keep lots of sidewalks open on Market, 20th and Olive.
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Is it just me or do these onboard galleries never work? I can get to the first three pictures, but the implied other five won't open for me. And going to the gallery doesn't seem to fix they problem completely. Maybe I get one or two more pictures, after much fighting.
^The only significant differences between these new ones and the October '19 renderings that I see, besides the larger facade and roof openings, is the roof overhang and the plaza at the corner of 20th / Market.
The roof on the older renderings had a larger cantilever extending out over the plaza on all four sides. I think this is what people are picking up on when they say it looks uninspiring, cheaper, etc... And, the Aloe Park West plaza area was depressed in the older renderings, now it is elevated above street level.
The roof on the older renderings had a larger cantilever extending out over the plaza on all four sides. I think this is what people are picking up on when they say it looks uninspiring, cheaper, etc... And, the Aloe Park West plaza area was depressed in the older renderings, now it is elevated above street level.