Meanwhile, here's a fun pic of Queeny Tower under construction (also from the article):
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^I'm not quite sure why the architect would be responsible for sloping floors. I wouldn't guess they did the engineering or contracting on that in house.
I think in the day and age of litigation everyone gets named in a lawsuit first and then the long tedious arguments, negotiations, and even a case or two in the courts. Have seen it few times with my own employer where the work we performed was not directly involved but since we were indirectly or within proximity of the work performed we where none the less named on the lawsuit.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 28, 2019^I'm not quite sure why the architect would be responsible for sloping floors. I wouldn't guess they did the engineering or contracting on that in house.
The other part, I don't think you think you can easily break out the difference between what an Architect vs an engineer contributed to the overall design, final drawings, and various markups & changes as construction progressed. Heck, a lot of design build projects these days start out with 60% design or even less when ground is broken.
^Actually, interestingly, it sounds like the construction consortium wasn’t named in the lawsuit (although they may still be on BJC’s sh*t list). The case is against the architect and engineering company.
BJC is adding some nice landscaping on the south side of Forest Park Parkway between Kingshighway and Euclid. The improvements to the sidewalk, along with trees and bushes, will help the aesthetics of this bland portion of BJC. It will create a more beautiful walk for people staying at the Parkway Hotel to reach the park.
Sure wish they'd straighten out the unnecessary jog in the traffic lanes of FP Parkway where it crosses Euclid.
I was unable to snap a picture today, but large construction barriers have begun to surround Queeny Tower noticeably between the building and Kingshighway.
Noticed scaffolding along Queeny Tower. Could they have decided against demo?
If that Ahrens Contracting excavator is sitting on site I'd lean more toward the scaffolding being for demolition purposes. Tight site and hospital environment would mean being very careful, so scaffolding could make sense. But no permit activity showing yet, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Yeah, Queeny Tower is of the age that it certainly has a lot of asbestos and lead in it. Even if it didn't, they wouldn't want dust blowing all over their campus and Kingshighway. So, the scaffolding is there so they can wrap the whole building during remediation and interior demo.MattnSTL wrote: ↑Nov 17, 2020If that Ahrens Contracting excavator is sitting on site I'd lean more toward the scaffolding being for demolition purposes. Tight site and hospital environment would mean being very careful, so scaffolding could make sense. But no permit activity showing yet, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
It will be interesting to see exactly how they plan to demolish the building, though. I think it's going to be really tough to do it any other way than to dismantle it piece-by-piece.
A 51 story skyscraper is currently being dismantled one floor at a time in New York.
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The scaffolding on the north side of the building is substantially higher up and workers are lining the building side with plywood. I can't see any reason to do that except for demolition containment. Ahrens Contracting was also assembling more demolition equipment. The days for Queeny Tower look to be numbered.
^ I know many here have fond memories of Queeny, and the views...but I for one am excited to see what BJC has planned for this corner. I think I last saw Cannon Design would be the architect...I’m hoping for something striking.
While I don't love the parking-centric form of Queeny Tower, The entire envelope is composed of bricks and limestone. Shame to loose these substantial materials.
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Does anyone know which of these designs is the most recent? Is this new wing larger in terms of square footage? Because it certainly looks a lot shorter and broader.
^ I think those are all the same. I thought I saw that the architect that designed this plan is no longer involved. So, I'm not sure any of these is recent any longer.
yeah HOK was the main architect but they had some disagreement with BJC. I think Gensler is the architect now, but don't quote me on that.
^Maybe because of the crooked floors in the most recent Kingshighway addition?
A 20-story version of this to replace Queeny Tower on that very high-profile corner, would not suck:
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Cannon Design- IU Health Neuroscience Center for Excellence, Indianapolis, IN
And they would still get to give a nod to their beige colour scheme and keep their signature glass cylinder, sort of...
Cannon Design- IU Health Neuroscience Center for Excellence, Indianapolis, IN
And they would still get to give a nod to their beige colour scheme and keep their signature glass cylinder, sort of...
I had no idea that HOK wasn't designing the Queeny Tower replacement. I'm actually happy to hear this. Parkview Tower isn't great IMO. I think the Queeny tower replacement is an opportunity to salvage the appearance of Barnes from Hwy 40, the HOK plan in the rendering wasn't the correct solution. I have a lot more faith in Cannon and/or Gensler. Would be great to get a Rafael Vinoly building at WUMC some day.
Cannon and Gensler both do consistently good work. Vinoly can be unpredictable, though. He's done some great work, but he's also laid a few eggs along the way (Walkie Talkie, I'm lookin' at you).
That's an understatement.2020STL wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2020yeah HOK was the main architect but they had some disagreement with BJC.
The Walkie-talkie was a crime. And it's hilarious that they were also the architect for The Vdara.framer wrote: ↑Nov 21, 2020Cannon and Gensler both do consistently good work. Vinoly can be unpredictable, though. He's done some great work, but he's also laid a few eggs along the way (Walkie Talkie, I'm lookin' at you).
Their U of Chicago (Center for Care & Discovery) building is absolutely incredible though. The CAM at Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania is also pretty incredible, the atrium alone is jaw dropping. The Howard Hughes Medical Institute is also incredible but a much different setting than BJH, UofC, or HUP.
Breaking News: 2020STL stated that, "Gensler is the architect now."2020STL wrote: ↑Nov 20, 2020yeah HOK was the main architect but they had some disagreement with BJC. I think Gensler is the architect now, but don't quote me on that.
jk, but where did this come from? They aren't really known for healthcare design... The pre-construction team is McCarthy, Cannon, and Thornton Thomasetti. It's possible they could bring on a Gensler or such as design architect, but that would be out of character for everyone involved. Much more likely would be someone like Perkins+Will, which is already doing the Neuroscience Research Building with McCarthy and Cannon.