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Post5:02 PM - Jan 23#176

viharsheth wrote: ↑
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What are we even doing? I've lived in this neighborhood for 15 years and now we have a Domino's Pizza at an intersection with much more potential, the demo of 3224 S. Kingshighway for a drive through fast food joint (at least that's what I've heard) and now the demo of the Imo's on a site with potential for something more vertical only to get another car oriented development. Just ranting.
Yes 3224 S Kingshighway will be drive thru subs, or coffee most likely. Show up and testify at the Board of Adjustment meetings. They are approving most of these. 

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Post6:26 PM - Jan 23#177

slop after slop after slop. It’s what happens when we dont take care of our historic buildings

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Post6:51 PM - Jan 23#178

And our zoning and strategic land use plan aren't clear enough or outright permits car slop.

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Post7:03 PM - Jan 23#179

Domino's took over a small office building on Tucker in DT as well.  That parcel at Locust should be so much more.  With all the retail available pretty annoyed by that usage.  I get why they wanted it...but annoyed. 

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Post3:14 PM - Jan 31#180

It's better, but could have been so much better.



Post5:01 PM - Jan 31#181

$150k building permit issued for a new home at 4231 HUMPHREY ST

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Post2:53 PM - Aug 11#182

Tower Grove CDC is redeveloping the vacant lot at 3506 Morgan Ford (at Oleatha) into four single-family affordable homes. The lot once housed a gas station. Tower Grove CDC is partnering with Rubicon Corporation.







Per a Tower Grove CDC Facebook post, ground has broken on the project as of today.

Link: https://www.towergrovecdc.org/news/2026 ... ect-update

Post3:45 PM - Aug 17#183

A four-family has been built at 4333 Connecticut (just west of Morgan Ford) in Tower Grove South in place of two single family homes. See below:

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Here is a shot from the City of the two homes that were torn down on this site:


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Post4:20 PM - Aug 17#184

Don't hate it!  Wisht he brick wrapped a 1/4 or 1/3 of the way on the sides.  

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Post1:27 AM - Aug 25#185

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Don't hate it!  Wisht he brick wrapped a 1/4 or 1/3 of the way on the sides.  
Agreed.  A 10 ft brick return with stucco or EIFS  would look significantly better.  

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Post1:41 AM - Aug 25#186

Can't say I'm a fan of the entirely concrete front yard

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Post7:47 PM - Aug 25#187

^ yep, super weird. and why!?

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Post8:07 PM - Aug 25#188

quincunx wrote: ↑
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$220k building permit application submitted for two townhomes at 4147-49 Connecticut
This one fell through and now there's someone (really nice dude) doing a rehab on the historic building that was there instead - already moving along with demo too! 

Also there's a group doing a gut rehab of 4120 Connecticut St that seems close to being done as well. 

There seems to be 2-5 houses getting reno's on every other block in TGS these days.

Post5:35 PM - Sep 11#189

Sorry had to snap this as I drove by, but they got sod in just before the rain the other day - looking amazing on this corner. 👏👏👏

Also, the Imos pizza down the street is above ground and really scooting along, and theTower Grove CDC project on the vacant lot at 3506 Morgan Ford (at Oleatha) has also started on the foundation as well. 
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Post11:14 PM - Sep 11#190

These have turned out nice


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Post2:25 PM - Sep 30#191

Snapped some shots of the Tower Grove CDC project on the vacant lot at 3506 Morgan Ford (at Oleatha) going above ground... love seeing housing projects jump up quickly! 

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Post5:54 PM - 1 day ago#193

Me neither, though seeing it advertised by Garcia Properties makes me somewhat less surprised.

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Post6:17 PM - 1 day ago#194

pattimagee wrote: ↑
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I was not expecting $950K 😯
https://garciaproperties.com/mo-real-estate/st-louis/4302-arsenal-street-mls-26063308
Absolute BS. This is worth at most $600k.... it's a view of an alley and Morganford. I don't care that the park is across the street. It doesn't look like almost a mil in its finishes either. Honestly, this is way out scaled for the community it is in. Real estate agents and brokers... trying to nudge up the surrounding values again through market manipulation tactics.. tale as old as time. 

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Post7:50 PM - 1 day ago#195

Almost $1 million that's crazy for those houses

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Post3:44 PM - Today#196

Why do people get mad about this? In the end they'll sell for what people are willing to pay. The hate on multiple Facebook and Reddit threads is kind of over the top.  I might not want to buy it, but why the anger if someone does?

It replaces a used car lot(s) that had been there forever and added nothing the the neighborhood, and we're b*tching about $1M townhomes?

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Post3:53 PM - Today#197

TalkinDev wrote: ↑
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Why do people get mad about this? In the end they'll sell for what people are willing to pay. The hate on multiple Facebook and Reddit threads is kind of over the top.  I might not want to buy it, but why the anger if someone does?

It replaces a used car lot(s) that had been there forever and added nothing the the neighborhood, and we're b*tching about $1M townhomes?
Yes correct. Because we live in a time of hyperinflation, have and have-nots with a hollowed out middle class, where people are barely scratching by because the wages have not leveled out with cost of services and goods... and we have a world where the affluent are the main drivers of ecological and socioeconomic destruction, for their own gains, at the expense of everyone else's welfare. 

So, to recap, f*ck not only billionaires, but the millionaires too. If you are on their side, you are against the tide. People are understandably mad, undermined and fed up. The average person can't realistically afford a house right now. But oh...cry for those who have disposable income and can afford a million-dollar glorified apartment in a working class area. 

You don't understand because you are contributing to the problem, by not having that awareness or empathy for those who actually need it. 

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Post4:36 PM - Today#198

I seem to recall that this old dealership had a pretty high acquisition cost, but I could be misremembering.

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Post5:47 PM - Today#199

Like none of this is factually true at all.  Just because you are angry at the world doesn't mean other people are. Also millionaires are like 20% of the US population. ***** all of them?  None of them worked hard or help the community?

Also how would not building these houses and selling them have helped the people who cant afford houses? Wouldn't these house buyers be coming from somewhere else?  Maybe their old house, which is now empty, is cheaper and people could buy it?

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Post6:44 PM - Today#200

Yea holy cow let's take a chill pill. I can understand these types of reactions for something like NYC's vanity condos in those super skinny skyscrapers, but this is a fundamentally good thing for STL. It is *good* that a developer thinks they can sell houses or townhomes deep into the city for nearly $1 million. Getting richer people in the city means more earnings tax, more sales tax revenue, more property tax, and they're much more likely to donate to charitable organizations that help the city immeasurably.

We complain ALL THE TIME about how wealthier people fled the city, but now we complain when some are starting to come back?

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