City Pet Supply wrote:Actually, it is to accommodate sidewalk seating for Smoking Joe's. They figured the space was not being utilized since it is a non-parking zone, so they are converting it.MattnSTL wrote:The curb is being extended out in the no parking areas, presumably to solve a problem of people parking there.
City Pet Supply wrote:You are correct, they are looking for retail on the first floor, specifically a restaurant for part of the space. In about 45 days I believe activity is supposed to begin directly across the street from the Tudor Building as well. As for the second floor of 1818, I've forgotten if it's office or residential, but I can look into it for you. My *guess* would be residential since the rentals at Tudor 1 booked up rapidly and with little effort.
All three buildings are being done by Robert Wood Reality in conjonction with Rothschild.MidcoastSTL wrote:Is the building directly across the street from Tudor 1 by the same developer? Is is a for sure thing that it will start in 45 days? if so, that is so awesome!
rssl2000 wrote:I went to Wicked Fresh Subs last week and one of the employees said he heard that a comedy club was going in the three store fronts next door. There was working taking place next door while I was there. Has anyone else heard anything?
It isn't a new Comedy Club, the existing one from the landing is moving to this location. The new owner of the club also owns some in FL and he does not like the "feel" of the landing, so he's moving it to those four open bays at the Tudor.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:rssl2000 wrote:I went to Wicked Fresh Subs last week and one of the employees said he heard that a comedy club was going in the three store fronts next door. There was working taking place next door while I was there. Has anyone else heard anything?
Given all the comedy clubs that have opened and then closed around here over the last 20 years, I'm surprised that anyone can get financing anymore.
Interesting... I myself think that the Landing is a cool place for a comedy club. However, the way the landing is somewhat "cut off" from the rest of downturn, I can see why it wouldn't be doing to hot.City Pet Supply wrote:It isn't a new Comedy Club, the existing one from the landing is moving to this location. The new owner of the club also owns some in FL and he does not like the "feel" of the landing, so he's moving it to those four open bays at the Tudor.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:rssl2000 wrote:I went to Wicked Fresh Subs last week and one of the employees said he heard that a comedy club was going in the three store fronts next door. There was working taking place next door while I was there. Has anyone else heard anything?
Given all the comedy clubs that have opened and then closed around here over the last 20 years, I'm surprised that anyone can get financing anymore.
southcitygent wrote:Its pretty amazing how quickly this space has leased up while so much other retail downtown has languished. Perhaps the city should take a lesson from the owners of this complex.
Moorlander wrote:I think the angled parking out front is strong selling point.
Rents @ 19th and Washington should be cheaper than those in or near the Central Business District.STL63101 wrote:The tudor building has been lease quickly because the rents that they are charging are more in line with the actual traffic and exposure that downtown has right now. So many of the retail spaces that are languishing or are losing their tenants quickly, are charging sq ft rates that are completely out of line with the realities of downtown.
newstl2020 wrote:Which, if true, would drop as they lose tenants to become realigned with the true value for the property, also known as the free market system. If the rents aren't dropping, then apparently they are able to command those rents.
innov8ion wrote:Rents @ 19th and Washington should be cheaper than those in or near the Central Business District.STL63101 wrote:The tudor building has been lease quickly because the rents that they are charging are more in line with the actual traffic and exposure that downtown has right now. So many of the retail spaces that are languishing or are losing their tenants quickly, are charging sq ft rates that are completely out of line with the realities of downtown.
