The Tudor Building at 1901-1933 Washington Ave.

city pet supply · PostSep 01, 2008#1762008-09-01T18:04+00:00

what4 wrote:
STLCardsBlues1989 wrote:Anything about a new pet shop?

http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... bits1.html

Michael Cox, a Boeing engineer, is on track to open City Pet Supply in October after a $200,000 investment and renovations to 1,200 square feet at the New Tudor Building, 1915 Washington Ave. In addition to pet supplies, Cox, who projects first-year revenue of $462,000, will have grooming and self-washing services, downtown delivery, and online shopping. A graduate of Purdue, with a master’s in engineering from Washington University, where he is working on an MBA, he based his business plan on a comprehensive survey of downtown pet owners.

$462k!!

$462k Gross revenue, not net revenue.

STLCardsBlues1989 wrote:Anything about a new pet shop?

http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... bits1.html

There's a thread on the shop here that has all the info you're looking for!

http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=5702

-Mike

chrisindowntown · PostJan 05, 2009#1772009-01-05T14:46+00:00

Looks like both of teh corner spaces have that wonderful brown paper covering the windows, meaning some work is going on. The eastern corner retail space is huge and will be a nice addition. Western space is supposed to be a sub shop, any ideas for other space?

the central scrutinizer · PostJan 05, 2009#1782009-01-05T15:44+00:00

ChrisInDownTown wrote:Western space is supposed to be a sub shop, any ideas for other space?

Please not another chain.

southcitygent · PostJan 05, 2009#1792009-01-05T17:45+00:00

Better a financially strong chain than another under capitalized independent that will go belly up by the fall.

brewcrew13 · PostJan 05, 2009#1802009-01-05T19:09+00:00

I live nearby and have been told it is a local Sub Shop and a local BBQ place going in.

dweebe · PostJan 05, 2009#1812009-01-05T21:06+00:00

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
ChrisInDownTown wrote:Western space is supposed to be a sub shop, any ideas for other space?

Please not another chain.

It's not like downtown is saturated with chain restaurants and fast food shops. While I don't want to see the entire Tudor building looking like a suburban strip mall, a few chain places wouldn't hurt.

You'd have to wonder if some of the Union Station food court fast food restaurants might want to get out of there and move a few blocks north to the Tudor Building? (Quiznos? Subway?)

survivor147 · PostJan 05, 2009#1822009-01-05T22:11+00:00

I'd love to see P'sghetti's in South County open a new location in the city and this spot would be perfect. I mean, it's local and different from a Subway -- why not showcase it in the city or in the airport?!?!

the central scrutinizer · PostJan 05, 2009#1832009-01-05T22:17+00:00

Survivor147 wrote:I'd love to see P'sghetti's in South County open a new location in the city and this spot would be perfect. I mean, it's local and different from a Subway -- why not showcase it in the city or in the airport?!?!

I used to go there all the time when I lived in the neighborhood

the dtw dweller · PostJan 06, 2009#1842009-01-06T02:26+00:00

Wicked fresh Subs is supposed to be the name of the sub joint going in. I also heard a sports lounge of some sort is suppoed to be going in the middle units along with the BBQ place on the eastern end.

chrisindowntown · PostJan 29, 2009#1852009-01-29T18:18+00:00

On the east end, where the BBQ place is apparently going in, they have been doing a bit of work. For a few days there was a small sign on the window with teh name of the place. Now, there is a paper taped to the window stating there is a liquor license hearing coming up.

what4 · PostFeb 07, 2009#1862009-02-07T18:13+00:00

Some guy was walking door to door in my building collecting signatures for a liquor license. He said he was opening a restaurant in the Tudor building called Fusion. I was a little out of it (late night), but I think he said it was lounge/restaurant...?? Can't wait to see what they have to offer.

chrisindowntown · PostFeb 12, 2009#1872009-02-12T14:10+00:00

ChrisInDownTown wrote:On the east end, where the BBQ place is apparently going in, they have been doing a bit of work. For a few days there was a small sign on the window with teh name of the place. Now, there is a paper taped to the window stating there is a liquor license hearing coming up.

Sign for Smoking Joe's BBQ. Anyone ever heard of it? They look to be getting pretty close to being done. Am wondering about how well this place will do. A little off the path for the central business dist for lunch. Needs to get a good rep and live off of it like Pappys, etc. Walking distance for me, so I am pumped.

juiceinkirkwood · PostFeb 13, 2009#1882009-02-13T00:34+00:00

Wicked Fresh Subs has their work cut out for them in competing with Planet Sub

brewcrew13 · PostFeb 25, 2009#1892009-02-25T18:42+00:00

Has anyone gone into Smoking Joe's BBQ yet? It looks like they are open but they don't have an OPEN sign up. It also looks like did did a lot of quality work; The bar may be in a strange location (up against the window) but the place looks really nice overall.

I hope the food is good.

what4 · PostApr 24, 2009#1902009-04-24T00:44+00:00

comedy club applying for 3am liquor license in the strip. wonder if that Fusion restaurant is still in the works.

MattnSTL · PostApr 24, 2009#1912009-04-24T00:53+00:00

The curb is being extended out in the no parking areas, presumably to solve a problem of people parking there.

the central scrutinizer · PostApr 24, 2009#1922009-04-24T04:24+00:00

BrewCrew13 wrote:Has anyone gone into Smoking Joe's BBQ yet? It looks like they are open but they don't have an OPEN sign up. It also looks like did did a lot of quality work; The bar may be in a strange location (up against the window) but the place looks really nice overall.

I hope the food is good.

It is.

stldtfan · PostApr 24, 2009#1932009-04-24T11:28+00:00

Food is good. Live music on certain nights (Jazz and Blues) is AWESOME. Overall, a good experience.

the central scrutinizer · PostApr 24, 2009#1942009-04-24T15:50+00:00

STLDTFAN wrote:Food is good. Live music on certain nights (Jazz and Blues) is AWESOME. Overall, a good experience.

Fridays & Saturdays from what I understand, unless you know differently.

I really is a well designed and beautiful place. Now I'm just waiting for the beer tappers!

dweebe · PostApr 24, 2009#1952009-04-24T16:14+00:00

I had lunch there yesterday and they had a good crowd. The construction crew was out front making measurements and laying out the lines for the expanded sidewalk.

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
STLDTFAN wrote:Food is good. Live music on certain nights (Jazz and Blues) is AWESOME. Overall, a good experience.

Fridays & Saturdays from what I understand, unless you know differently.

I really is a well designed and beautiful place. Now I'm just waiting for the beer tappers!

For now they're only doing music on Fridays. Apparently Saturday nights were too slow.

city pet supply · PostApr 27, 2009#1962009-04-27T13:46+00:00

MattnSTL wrote:The curb is being extended out in the no parking areas, presumably to solve a problem of people parking there.

Actually, it is to accommodate sidewalk seating for Smoking Joe's. They figured the space was not being utilized since it is a non-parking zone, so they are converting it. They are in talks with new restaurants for other portions of the project across the street and those restaurants may opt for that as well.

dweebe · PostApr 27, 2009#1972009-04-27T14:53+00:00

City Pet Supply wrote:
MattnSTL wrote:The curb is being extended out in the no parking areas, presumably to solve a problem of people parking there.
Actually, it is to accommodate sidewalk seating for Smoking Joe's. They figured the space was not being utilized since it is a non-parking zone, so they are converting it. They are in talks with new restaurants for other portions of the project across the street and those restaurants may opt for that as well.

So what's going in on the opposite corner?

city pet supply · PostApr 27, 2009#1982009-04-27T15:08+00:00

^ Which opposite corner exactly? If you're asking about 1818 Washington, that building is being demoed and rehabbed as part of the Tudor project. They are seeking tenants now.

dweebe · PostApr 27, 2009#1992009-04-27T15:18+00:00

City Pet Supply wrote:^ Which opposite corner exactly? If you're asking about 1818 Washington, that building is being demoed and rehabbed as part of the Tudor project. They are seeking tenants now.

The heavy-duty renovation on the southeast corner of the intersection.

So I assume they're looking for a retail on the first floor? What about the upper floor? Office? Residential?

city pet supply · PostApr 27, 2009#2002009-04-27T15:36+00:00

You are correct, they are looking for retail on the first floor, specifically a restaurant for part of the space. In about 45 days I believe activity is supposed to begin directly across the street from the Tudor Building as well. As for the second floor of 1818, I've forgotten if it's office or residential, but I can look into it for you. My *guess* would be residential since the rentals at Tudor 1 booked up rapidly and with little effort.

The Tudor Building at 1901-1933 Washington Ave.

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