They need to sell it to someone who would actually enjoy running this type of facility. Booking quality shows requires good business sense and an awareness of the local market, but it really relies on passion and that's what's missing here.
how dare you expose that the Roberts are actually bigger "talkers" than "doers."!?
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I made it to a few shows in the mid-1990s- and Oasis and TMBG were among them. The last time I was in the place, though, was December 2002, when the Downtown Residents Association sponsored a showing of "White Christmas". It was also the last time I saw Post-Dispatch columnist (and staunch advocate for city living) Greg Freeman, just weeks before his untimely passing.
Based on Matt's description, it sounds like few if any improvements were made in the four years since I've been inside. Since the Roberts Bros. are neglecting the place in every sense of the word, I wish they would've gone one step further and spared us all of that garish marquee. I'm a big Joe Edwards fan, but that rivals the Blueberry Hill sign for tackiness IMHO.
Based on Matt's description, it sounds like few if any improvements were made in the four years since I've been inside. Since the Roberts Bros. are neglecting the place in every sense of the word, I wish they would've gone one step further and spared us all of that garish marquee. I'm a big Joe Edwards fan, but that rivals the Blueberry Hill sign for tackiness IMHO.
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Downtown2007 wrote:Apply some pressure on them to utilize the Theater for top notch entertainment.
How do you propose doing that? Will you be "applying pressure" to the Weekends Only stores to be open every day?
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Stores will be open on weekends if there are concerts downtown...maybe.
But bottom line, a concert venue that is active and having show does a lot more for street life and perception than Salt of the Earth being open on the weekend.
Salt, Blend (John is the MAN), UMA, Casa Simplice are great, but they do there business before 6, on weekdays, because thats when people come in, and therefore to be open otherwise makes NO BUSINESS SENSE. Despite all our best wishes and prayers, we still don't have the residential neighborhood residents to warrant every single shop and restaurant to be open when 85,000 workers are not there.
But we'll get there.
And then I'll sell, and buy in the new high rises.
But bottom line, a concert venue that is active and having show does a lot more for street life and perception than Salt of the Earth being open on the weekend.
Salt, Blend (John is the MAN), UMA, Casa Simplice are great, but they do there business before 6, on weekdays, because thats when people come in, and therefore to be open otherwise makes NO BUSINESS SENSE. Despite all our best wishes and prayers, we still don't have the residential neighborhood residents to warrant every single shop and restaurant to be open when 85,000 workers are not there.
But we'll get there.
And then I'll sell, and buy in the new high rises.
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TheWayoftheArch wrote:Stores will be open on weekends if there are concerts downtown...maybe.
But bottom line, a concert venue that is active and having show does a lot more for street life and perception than Salt of the Earth being open on the weekend.
Salt, Blend (John is the MAN), UMA, Casa Simplice are great, but they do there business before 6, on weekdays, because thats when people come in, and therefore to be open otherwise makes NO BUSINESS SENSE. Despite all our best wishes and prayers, we still don't have the residential neighborhood residents to warrant every single shop and restaurant to be open when 85,000 workers are not there.
But we'll get there.
And then I'll sell, and buy in the new high rises.
Huh???
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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:TheWayoftheArch wrote:Stores will be open on weekends if there are concerts downtown...maybe.
But bottom line, a concert venue that is active and having show does a lot more for street life and perception than Salt of the Earth being open on the weekend.
Salt, Blend (John is the MAN), UMA, Casa Simplice are great, but they do there business before 6, on weekdays, because thats when people come in, and therefore to be open otherwise makes NO BUSINESS SENSE. Despite all our best wishes and prayers, we still don't have the residential neighborhood residents to warrant every single shop and restaurant to be open when 85,000 workers are not there.
But we'll get there.
And then I'll sell, and buy in the new high rises.
Huh???
Sorry, misread your post to be about stores not being open on weekends DT. Just read through the whole thing with my QVC purchased speed reading skills.
So will you complain when DD is closed on Sunday?
Only if they close everyday for the next six months, open for 1 day, and then close again for another 6 months just like the Orphium does. There has got to be a way to create some bad press about this.
I was just infering the inherent value of a active and regular concert venue downtown and why its not comparable to other retail in the area.
Might have tried to answer to much in one post...
I'm a big Joe Edwards fan, but that rivals the Blueberry Hill sign for tackiness IMHO.
Do you really not like the Blueberry Hill sign? I think it adds a little pIzAz to Delmar. ha. I don't think its bad.
Anyone notice this??
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/06003 ... orcatid=60
Maybe someone's listening to our rants. I've never heard of any of these bands, but it looks like a, GASP, rock show?? I'm tempted to go just to see what kind of shape this place is in, and tickets are only $14.00.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/06003 ... orcatid=60
Maybe someone's listening to our rants. I've never heard of any of these bands, but it looks like a, GASP, rock show?? I'm tempted to go just to see what kind of shape this place is in, and tickets are only $14.00.
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Ihnen wrote:Uh, I may just see you there . . .
I was going to ask you who that classy chick was, but now I see it in the url for the pictures.
I love the extensive list of upcoming shows at the Orpheum.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/49674
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I love how she's sitting on that guy's face and no one around her seems to be paying much attention.
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JCity wrote:I'm a big Joe Edwards fan, but that rivals the Blueberry Hill sign for tackiness IMHO.
Do you really not like the Blueberry Hill sign? I think it adds a little pIzAz to Delmar. ha. I don't think its bad.
Just my two cents...the vertical part of the sign that matches Pin-Up Bowl is great, but the marquee is way to large and boxy for the building and its flashing messages are rather Branson-esque.
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^ That's precisely my take on the Blueberry Hill sign.
The vertical section? Good. Very good. The rest? I can't think of a better word than "Branson-esque".
I guess that's still much better than the Roberts Orpheum sign- the whole thing is tacky, and the lack of other improvements to the place is unfortunate.
The vertical section? Good. Very good. The rest? I can't think of a better word than "Branson-esque".
I guess that's still much better than the Roberts Orpheum sign- the whole thing is tacky, and the lack of other improvements to the place is unfortunate.
I have to agree. Neon signs can be great-but must be done with a bit of class. Kind of like old school Vegas compared to Branson. I think they've been trying to attract people down to the east side of Delmar over Skinker and neon signs are the way??
The space has been booking at least a few private events. There's an ACLU dinner in there this weekend; I should have a second-hand report of what it looks like inside by Monday.
bonwich wrote:The space has been booking at least a few private events. There's an ACLU dinner in there this weekend; I should have a second-hand report of what it looks like inside by Monday.
I'd be very intersted to hear your report.
"Branson-esque" that is probably the most insulting, but accurate statement I have ever heard, I will have to make an effort to remember that for use.
I am personaly very annoyed by the lack of use or development of this theater. I as a student at WUSTL am interested in the city and students here would have much more of a reason to leave the "WashU Bubble" if there were more concerts and such that were accessible downtown. Currently everyone just defaults to the pagent which is well done, but there is more than enough market for both to be fully saturated with concerts and such.
We have the new Metro connection to get there, now there needs to be a market developed. And note the money is there, the single highest grossing cafe in all of the STL region is in the Library at the school. Most of the kids here are dying for a place to shell out their parents money.
I am personaly very annoyed by the lack of use or development of this theater. I as a student at WUSTL am interested in the city and students here would have much more of a reason to leave the "WashU Bubble" if there were more concerts and such that were accessible downtown. Currently everyone just defaults to the pagent which is well done, but there is more than enough market for both to be fully saturated with concerts and such.
We have the new Metro connection to get there, now there needs to be a market developed. And note the money is there, the single highest grossing cafe in all of the STL region is in the Library at the school. Most of the kids here are dying for a place to shell out their parents money.
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Didn't Wash U buy out the restaurant at Big Bend/FPP and turn it into a Quik Copy or something like that? Any why is the other half of the building Kayak's is in on Skinker still empty? There's not a lot of potential for retail adjacent to campus.
Looks like something halfway decent was booked for the first time in a while. George Clinton / Parliament / Funkadeic. With Mississippi Nights out of the picture, this is a perfect opportunity for a place like this to open its arms to some of the same sorts of acts that the defunct (though hopefully returning) club was booking. I hope they take it. They probably won't...
http://www.robertsorpheum.com/events.php
http://www.robertsorpheum.com/events.php
