West End Terrace (just north of the New Cathedral) is such a gated suburban apartment complex in an otherwise walkable urban neighborhood. I'd like to see this 1970s-looking auto-oriented complex torn down someday for newer dense, pedestrian-scaled development.
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I gotta think it would make sense economically to do that. The way the neighborhood is changing, a series of two-story buildings really is no longer the highest and best use. The complex takes up a huge amount of space and the site offers so much potential.
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^ Good call, I do think they just spend some $$ installing a fitness center, but it's nothing a little entrepenurial capitalism couldn't justify leveling! The homes to the south are beautiful. If the Lindell Marketplace continues to transform and/or if the land across the street from this becomes slightly higher-end retail, then this area is really in the middle of it all. It's already more centrally located than Gaslight and it's just a block from Euclid and Maryland Plaza.
We might see something happen soon with this project. Mills moved one of their offices out of this building effective Jan 1.
Mills is turning out a disapointment compared to their initial renderings.
Mills sucks!
Mills sucks!
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^ do you have a new rendering? At least tell us why you think this - the original rendering was met with a lot of criticism here. I can't really imagine it being a whole lot worse - unless you're just concerned with height. It seems that at the very least density will be added along Euclid - that's a good thing.
I agree. A smaller scale project will also provide less competition to Opus' plans to put up a second tower. If anyone is going to put up another highrise I would rather it be Opus--assuming there is demand.
Yeah, if there's limited demand we might as well let Opus build the towers as theirs just blow Mill's tower out of the water. (not that we really have a choice but...)
I'm big on height height so anything that goes from 30 floors to 10 is a disapointment to me. As the others said, at least Opus will build the big tower as they turn out some good looking stuff. The Mills tower design was mediocre at best.
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From MayorSlay.com:
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Bruce Mills is moving forward with a major mixed use development on N. Euclid. The nearly $50 million project will include an11-story mixed use structure, with townhome-styled structures fronting along the eastern West Pine frontage of the site. The new building will replace a 1950s-era office building. The development will include 10,000 sq. ft. of first floor retail space at the corner and 155 residential apartments.
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To me, the 11-story tower is great, but the townhouses facing West Pine will really make a positive difference - the parking lot that's currently there really creates a "dead zone" along the street.
Even if only 11 stories and come townhomes, adding 155 more residential units to the area just increases the density and the ablity to support a thriving neighborhood. I really do belive that if the CWE is sucessful in its goal of becoming as dense as someplace like Back Bay Boston, then there is no doubt that it can and will attract major retailers to the area. A great area for the metro's first Bloomingdales.
Great news. Not a bad plan to me. 11-stories is respectable. I think the original plan called for a 12-story tower plus a 5-story addition, then it grew to the last plan.
I just hope the new plan is contemporary in design.
I just hope the new plan is contemporary in design.
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original plan was 25-30 stories. massive fat tower.
But, 11 stories is a nice sized project, and I imagine will not face any opposition, unlike some taller counterparts.
155 new units is a nice addition to the South Euclid area.
No one complained about Conrad's 4545 only being 10 stories. This, though downsized is still a big plus.
But, 11 stories is a nice sized project, and I imagine will not face any opposition, unlike some taller counterparts.
155 new units is a nice addition to the South Euclid area.
No one complained about Conrad's 4545 only being 10 stories. This, though downsized is still a big plus.
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How many floors is the Doctors Building? I'm guessing that the new Mills building will be similar in height.
If the project is now only going to be at/around 11 stories - I think it would be appropriate to change the title of this thread.... since it is misleading looking for a 30 story development and getting an 11.
Looking back, the first page of the thread states that the original plan was for an 11 or 12 story building. Whether it's taller or not than the building it replaces, the retail space on the 1st floor will hopefully attract a new retailer adding to the flow on Euclid between Laclede and Maryland Plaza. I think lining Euclid with stores is central to connecting these two areas.
Actually, the first plan (the original plan) was for a 12-story and a 5-story building on the site.TheWayoftheArch wrote:original plan was 25-30 stories. massive fat tower.
The 30-story proposal was the second plan.
Now, we have this 11-story proposal. He's modified his original plan.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... tory3.html
We need a rendering. When is Mills planning on releasing an updated rendering?
I'm really more concerned with what the architects comes up with. I worry about the statement made in the SLBJ by Mills about building to "lure" suburbanites to the city. I hope this thing isn't going to have a suburban look, you know, pitched roof and grass all around and heaven forbid, a parking lot. Hopefully, the statement was in referance to the floor plan.
That statement though could mean many things. DT lofts and even the Park East Tower lured suburbanites who were looking for a change by giving them something different. Almost a new lifestyle. In fact, suburbanites who want the same old, same old would probably fair better staying put. Why bother making the move.
Has anyone heard anything new regarding this project? Is this still going to happen? I sure hope the Medical Building is not torn down with no sound replacement plan. Any updates are appreciated.
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Well, I'm usually not one to pass along a rumor of a rumor, but as long as everyone understands that . . . Bruce Mills still wants to go big and is looking to partner with a national hotel chain to produce a mix-use development. If it works, the project could end up taller than 20 stories.
IMO - this would be fantastic. There aren't enough hotels near FP. There's the Chase, Parkway, whatever the Roberts Bros Best Western is, and then you have to go down McCausland to the Red Roof Inn or down Market to the Courtyard etc. FP and all its amenities is under publicized and under utilized. This would also add great foot traffic to Euclid.
IMO - this would be fantastic. There aren't enough hotels near FP. There's the Chase, Parkway, whatever the Roberts Bros Best Western is, and then you have to go down McCausland to the Red Roof Inn or down Market to the Courtyard etc. FP and all its amenities is under publicized and under utilized. This would also add great foot traffic to Euclid.
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That would be fun
Marriott and luxury condos
similar to the Sheraton and Condos in the former Edison Brothers building.
Good thing it is close walking distance to the Metrolink stop and on Euclid.
Mixed-use is always good
Marriott and luxury condos
similar to the Sheraton and Condos in the former Edison Brothers building.
Good thing it is close walking distance to the Metrolink stop and on Euclid.
Mixed-use is always good
Mixed use is how N Michigan Avenue in Chicago got built with all those super skyscrapers. John Hancock, Water Tower Place, 900 N. Michigan Ave., One Magnificent Mile...all mixed use...all significantly increasing density.
I DEFINATELY support the idea of mixed use in the CWE. Hope more developers seriously consider this. (Wouldn't it be cool to work, shop and dine out in the same building that you lived in? I've read posative comments such as this from residents when Chicago's John Hancock first opened in 1969.) Although I think a 100 story mixed use building may not be realistic at this time in the CWE, I would think something in the 60 to 70 story range might be...~5 floors retail, 15 floors office, 15 floors hotel, 30 floor residential...does this sound unrealistic for the CWE? I don't think it does, but I'd like to see something like this on Lindell on one of those wasted pieces of real estate rather than this particular spot, not that I would say nix if they were to build something that big here.
I DEFINATELY support the idea of mixed use in the CWE. Hope more developers seriously consider this. (Wouldn't it be cool to work, shop and dine out in the same building that you lived in? I've read posative comments such as this from residents when Chicago's John Hancock first opened in 1969.) Although I think a 100 story mixed use building may not be realistic at this time in the CWE, I would think something in the 60 to 70 story range might be...~5 floors retail, 15 floors office, 15 floors hotel, 30 floor residential...does this sound unrealistic for the CWE? I don't think it does, but I'd like to see something like this on Lindell on one of those wasted pieces of real estate rather than this particular spot, not that I would say nix if they were to build something that big here.