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PostDec 17, 2007#226

MattnSTL wrote:The atrium is not new, from what I understand. Paul Hohman of Pyramid Architects was telling me Thursday night that it was cut in back before Stix was bought out by Dillards and was to be headquarters space. It was never actually finished when Dillards took over.


That's true - you can see it in old aerial photos.

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PostDec 17, 2007#227

The Laurel at MX wrote:



Photos don't do a great job of showing how huge the atrium really is...
Actually, I'd say this picture does a pretty good job. I had no idea it was that large. I figured they just took out a few bays, but you could play football in there. What is amazing to me is, how did they demo that while the store was in operation? I wouldn't trust any local demo company I've seen with a job like that. And, does anyone know why they added a story to the top of the building - nevermind, after looking at the photos again, I guess they pretty much had to to support the atrium.



Also, any progress on plans for the atrium? I could see a very nice pool and a couple of sand volleyball courts in there. :wink:

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PostDec 18, 2007#228

1. Whoever was responsible for what Dillards did to that building should be shot.



2. Seeing those pics reminds me of when my mom and a friend of hers would take all of us kids downtown on December 8th (the feast of the Immaculate Conception when we had the day off from school) and would look at the animated display windows, visit Santa at Famous and have lunch in the St. Louis Room. Then, the whole crew (11 of us all together) would schlep over to Stix and visit Santa there and ride the monorail in the toy department. This was an all day affair since it was so crowded and everyone was totally exhausted when the day was over. Its so sad to see downtown virtually empty now, even in the middle of a work day. It wasn't that long ago the sidewalks were overflowing with people.



3. I remember all too well when those elevators were operated by uniformed and gloved personnel who announced the stops and the merchandise that was on each floor. On the main floor, they had to wait for the elevator director with their clicker to give them permission to go up. Of course, Famous and Vandervoort's had these, too.


Well thats just depressing.... I think I wanna go jump off the skybridge now....

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PostDec 18, 2007#229

Sorry, Magnatron, my remarks weren't meant to depress anyone.



However, here's one more:



When I started high school (circa 1966, 41 short years ago), she took me downtown for clothes so we could hit Famous, Stix and Boyd's in one brief walk. Stix didn't have a branch at South County Center or Crestwood Plaza yet, and my mom maintained the DT stores all had a much better selection of merchandise than the suburban branches or even Southtown Famous.



How time changes things, huh?

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PostDec 18, 2007#230

If I had a pile of money, I'd bring back the Boyd's chain.

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PostDec 18, 2007#231

I thought it would be fun to share some pictures of The Laurel in it's current condition:



Photos don't do a great job of showing how huge the atrium really is...


Will the atrium will remain covered after the project is complete, or will it be open air?



To me I think the interior units would be more attractive if the atrium was open air, especially due to the very large size of the atrium.



What do others think? And what is Pyramid's thought process here?

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PostDec 18, 2007#232

Open would be more attractive to me, but would require a significant (and costly) change of materials for this area as everthing would need to be weather proof - whether they went with a glass curtain or had an open walkway/balconies/whatever.

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PostDec 18, 2007#233

I thought it *was* an open air atrium. The Laurel website says, "The only elevated, open-air atrium in St. Louis, this private park is graced with a water feature, gardens and grilling areas."

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PostDec 18, 2007#234

stlouishills74 wrote:I thought it *was* an open air atrium. The Laurel website says, "The only elevated, open-air atrium in St. Louis, this private park is graced with a water feature, gardens and grilling areas."


You are correct! We are removing the skylights. Here is an artist's rendering of the space:




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PostDec 18, 2007#235

^ What a beautiful rendering, Laurel. Thanks for sharing!

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PostDec 18, 2007#236

Wow. This looks awesome.

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PostDec 18, 2007#237

Very nice! If there was only a great place to run downtown I'd be looking at a place here.

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PostDec 18, 2007#238

Grover wrote:Very nice! If there was only a great place to run downtown I'd be looking at a place here.


Here are some running options:



1. The Arch grounds (3 blocks away)



2. Trailnet's Riverfront Trail http://www.trailnet.org/p_stlriverfront.php (4 blocks away)



3. A treadmill in our fitness center (just for really bad weather)



You can make your $2,500 reservation check out to Dillard's Building LLC :)

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PostDec 18, 2007#239

^Thanks, but in all honesty it just doesn't cut it. The Gateway Mall is fine, but you have to cross 8 lanes of traffic EVERY block. Anyway, I'm very close to Forest Park - which I guess is kind of unbeatable. I mentioned this in another thread, but if there were a well-lit running path across the Eads, down the river and back across on the McCarthur (I think that's the one) bridge it may work. I'm (and the wife) are just very demanding in this respect! The riverfont trail is OK too, but IMO too isolated for a single female to use. Can't really stand treadmills . . .

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PostDec 19, 2007#240

Grover wrote:^Thanks, but in all honesty it just doesn't cut it. The Gateway Mall is fine, but you have to cross 8 lanes of traffic EVERY block. Anyway, I'm very close to Forest Park - which I guess is kind of unbeatable. I mentioned this in another thread, but if there were a well-lit running path across the Eads, down the river and back across on the McCarthur (I think that's the one) bridge it may work. I'm (and the wife) are just very demanding in this respect! The riverfont trail is OK too, but IMO too isolated for a single female to use. Can't really stand treadmills . . .


I love running downtown. It is like a never ending combiniation of trails. Plus eye candy. The only big streets that you have to wait for a light are Tucker and Market. Every other one you can "jay run" since there is never traffic, let alone cars. (Unless at 7am and 5pm)

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PostDec 19, 2007#241

I come downtown to run through the city on a fairly regular basis. I actually prefer running downtown to the alternatives (Fopo, carondolet, wilmore, etc.). Don't discount it that easily until you have tried it a few times. I make a nice little loop from jefferson down market to broadway, down washington to 14th and then back over to market and up to Jefferson. Not a bad trek. (Repeat as necessary :D ) Sorry for hijacking the thread.



Great rendering above. Are there going to be any balconies placed on the exterior of the building? I know that being a rehab it is a cost-prohibitive issue, and I love the renderings of the Laurel as is. Just curious.

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PostDec 19, 2007#242

newstl2020 wrote:...Great rendering above. Are there going to be any balconies placed on the exterior of the building? I know that being a rehab it is a cost-prohibitive issue, and I love the renderings of the Laurel as is. Just curious.


In addition to the atrium balconies and patios, some 9th floor units will have private terraces (ranging in size from 248-575 sq. ft. and some can be expanded) and many north facing units feature hanging balconies.



There are also a few 10th and 11th floor units that have east facing hanging balconies..



Here are a few shots of our scale model showing some terraces and balconies.








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PostDec 19, 2007#243

^that's what I want for Christmas this year!!

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PostDec 19, 2007#244

A model of the Laurel? It's probably more expensive than you think! :biggrin:

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PostDec 19, 2007#245

This project has emerged as one of my favorites downtown. If I were loft shopping, I think The Laurel would be neck-and-neck with The Arcade.

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PostDec 19, 2007#246

I love models. Can we get more pics, please?

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PostDec 19, 2007#247

Grover wrote:A model of the Laurel? It's probably more expensive than you think! :biggrin:


I don't think it's too much to ask for. I wonder if the Urban St. Louis Action Figures come with it. [-o<

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PostDec 19, 2007#248

brickandmortar wrote:I don't think it's too much to ask for. I wonder if the Urban St. Louis Action Figures come with it. [-o<


I want the Plaza Square Playset, complete with the reddragon action figure on the balcony with his video camera.

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PostDec 19, 2007#249

OK - I'll go for the Ballpark Village Erector set!

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PostDec 19, 2007#250

The BPV set comes with the Bottle District set. 2 for 1 closeout.



I personally want the skybridge demo set.

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