would like to see how that poll was answered in regards to some other cities, especially peer cities. I have no doubt that for some perception are disproportionally positive compared to ours. Some of which would be undeserved, and some well earned.jeff707 wrote: ↑Jan 18, 2024600 business leaders throughout the country. Here are there "first thoughts", in order of frequency, when asked about St. Louis:
Gateway Arch
Sports teams
Crime
Anheuser-Busch
In decline
Racial issues
Attractions (museums, zoos, etc.)
Universities
BBQ and good food
Empty, dirty, rough downtown
Mississippi River
Former resident / where I grew up
Government/politics-related issues
44% had a somewhat positive or very positive overall impression of the region.
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charging that EV in Missouri
https://grist.org/energy/gasoline-is-cheap-right-now-but-charging-an-ev-is-still-cheaper/
https://grist.org/energy/gasoline-is-cheap-right-now-but-charging-an-ev-is-still-cheaper/
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Trivia nerds aren't sports fans (except for Baseball Trivia nerds, of course).
interesting places near by
https://en.nearbywiki.org/map/#14/38.6296/-90.2036
https://en.nearbywiki.org/map/#14/38.6296/-90.2036
11 Signs That Capture Pure Americana
https://www.atlasobscura.com/lists/americana-signs
https://www.atlasobscura.com/lists/americana-signs
Wow that was a very brutal article. Especially, the part about Midwestern cities basically having nothing to offer.
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Very lazy reporting, it’s even hard to call it reporting.
...oh ok. So now we don't have a Library downtown? It explicitly states we need a library, among other amenities such as playgrounds, etc to attract people down there....lazy reporting indeed. There's literally a f*cking playground across the street from the central library. This moron did zero research. Only looked at stats and data.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2024BI picked up on WSJ story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/st-loui ... sco-2024-4
St Louis. The national medias ever favorite punching bag during a slow news week.
2 libraries at that, there's a branch in the old post office buildingSRQ2STL wrote: ↑Apr 15, 2024...oh ok. So now we don't have a Library downtown? It explicitly states we need a library, among other amenities such as playgrounds, etc to attract people down there....lazy reporting indeed. There's literally a f*cking playground across the street from the central library. This moron did zero research. Only looked at stats and data.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2024BI picked up on WSJ story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/st-loui ... sco-2024-4
St Louis. The national medias ever favorite punching bag during a slow news week.
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^And the archives and the film library. I suspect the majority of the systems resources are housed downtown, though there's more access through branches._nomad_ wrote: ↑Apr 15, 20242 libraries at that, there's a branch in the old post office buildingSRQ2STL wrote: ↑Apr 15, 2024...oh ok. So now we don't have a Library downtown? It explicitly states we need a library, among other amenities such as playgrounds, etc to attract people down there....lazy reporting indeed. There's literally a f*cking playground across the street from the central library. This moron did zero research. Only looked at stats and data.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2024BI picked up on WSJ story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/st-loui ... sco-2024-4
St Louis. The national medias ever favorite punching bag during a slow news week.
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Midwest cities did manufacturing until we started importing from cheap labor countries. Then those goods started coming from on to the coasts where they scraped off $$s before distributing. Most US shoe HQ are on the coats like Portland and Boston. But they don’t make any shoes there. They just oversee the imports.
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Here is a mostly positive story on metro link that was in Next City: https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/st.-louis-turn-of-the-century-transit-renaissance
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I loathe the BI story, and agree with its obvious laziness. But technically if you look at the area Konrad from WSJ analyzed then none of the aforementioned amenities lie in the zone of his “study”. He carefully cordoned off an area to fit the narrative as DB pointed out, while ignoring other data provided. BI’s amplification is truly frustrating. Below is another piece that is not out simply for a hit and clicks.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... utType=amp
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... utType=amp
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did it explicitly say that St. Louis doesn't have a downtown library? just wondering if they edited it. it currently says:SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Apr 15, 2024...oh ok. So now we don't have a Library downtown? It explicitly states we need a library, among other amenities such as playgrounds, etc to attract people down there....lazy reporting indeed. There's literally a f*cking playground across the street from the central library. This moron did zero research. Only looked at stats and data.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Apr 13, 2024BI picked up on WSJ story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/st-loui ... sco-2024-4
St Louis. The national medias ever favorite punching bag during a slow news week.
more striking to me is that this Hicks guy says: "[Midwestern] cities don't have the fundamental amenities that would attract people."The problem with Midwestern cities, like St. Louis, is that there's not much attracting people to the center of the city — and that applies to commuters, tourists, and residents.
"What I really think it comes down to in these places is that there's nothing special about any of the downtowns in any of these cities that would be attractive to new residents," Michael Hicks, a professor of economics and business research at Ball State University in Indiana, told BI's Relman in 2023. "The cities just don't have the fundamental amenities that would attract people."
Relman concluded that Midwestern cities need to prioritize adding downtown amenities — which can range from playgrounds and libraries to boutiques and cafés — in order to attract more people.
yeah, i guess if you live in Muncie, IN you might think that.
St. Louis city is ahead of most of its peers in terms of dining, entertainment, and culture. really the only thing that St. Louis City lacks (and in this regard trails behind most peer cities, unfortunately) is retail.
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The playgrounds and libraries question is just silly. Downtown living does not cater to young families. Yu can raise kids in high rise apartments but it well outside the core demographic these properties cater to. Who is the WSJ writer that thinks the problem with downtown is not enough playgrounds. And how often does the average person go to the library. a heavy user is probably a few times a week. Most people probably haven't gone in over a year. His analysis is just so pathetic it makes me view him as highly unqualified to write such an article for a national publication at all.
What downtown lacks is foot traffic which can be achieved with addition of residential units in downtown. Conversion of the Railway exchange and AT&T will be transformative for downtown. Foot traffic drives retail interest.
What downtown lacks is foot traffic which can be achieved with addition of residential units in downtown. Conversion of the Railway exchange and AT&T will be transformative for downtown. Foot traffic drives retail interest.
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Not to beat a dead horse but WSJ released their daily podcast episode about STL
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mIn25 ... YKEWu-v-Zg
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mIn25 ... YKEWu-v-Zg
geez next the marketing of t shirts stickers a song a Broadway touring play.....you know the letters of the words doom loop in a circle with STL in the center Did they use the latest slide ruler to get that study areas 'just right'?
"Give me the facts and I will twist them to fit my argument"
Winston Churchill
"Give me the facts and I will twist them to fit my argument"
Winston Churchill
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A few other national outlets like Fox business and others also pushing it. Woof.