St Louis Immigration

justme123 · PostNov 12, 2013#262013-11-12T18:53+00:00

innov8ion wrote:
onecity wrote:^ How hard would it be to create a group to lobby the mayor, and possibly pay for him to meet with people in Syria and the Philippines? I bet for $50k or so, Slay and several key staffers could travel to both places and make an offer to the displaced. If we could snag 20k people from each, what an impact it could make.
Interesting idea but have you contemplated the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars it would cost to bring them here, provide transitionary housing, language and skills training? How would that get paid?

Anyway, why would people in Phil want to leave in the first place. It's pretty stable. Do you think there was demand for Japanese refugees after their typhoon/Fukushima disaster? Doubtful.

Agreed --
Just my $0.02, but this soon after the disaster itself, I'd think that offers like that would be seen as opportunistic and cruel rather than humanitarian and helpful.

Chalupas54 · PostNov 17, 2013#272013-11-17T23:17+00:00

I was wondering, what countries have consulates in St Louis? I do know we have a few Consulate Generals (Hungary, Germany, Sweden)(Bosnia and Herzegovina?) and many honorary consulates(Poland, Italy, France) but I cannot really find any solid sources of what countries have them here, as several differ from source to source.

beer city · PostJan 24, 2014#282014-01-24T19:10+00:00

International Institute looking to buy the old St. Elizabeth's - would quadruple their space -

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 79a08.html

This would be awesome - would love to see what II would do with that additional space - temp housing? incubator space for immigrants?

Mark Groth · PostJun 17, 2014#292014-06-17T00:21+00:00

Musical chairs for the city, but good news for the former St. Elizabeth's building...and great for Tower Grove East!

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... 1402950729

The International Institute plans to relocate in early 2015 from its current headquarters at 3654 S. Grand Blvd. in St. Louis.

The new headquarters space includes five connected buildings with 131,000 square feet of total space, 75 percent more than its current facility, and includes 100 off-street parking spaces.

Glad to see such an important institution growing.

STLEnginerd · PostJun 17, 2014#302014-06-17T12:50+00:00

Great news. Not clear on the International Institutes actual role. Do they provide temporary housing or just training and instruction.

I've often thought older school buildings in the region would make for nice temporary housing facilities for recent immigrants. Vanishing St. Louis recently profiled the Hempstead school and there are several others that need a new life with a new use.

Ebsy · PostJun 17, 2014#312014-06-17T17:30+00:00

STLEnginerd wrote:Great news. Not clear on the International Institutes actual role. Do they provide temporary housing or just training and instruction.

I've often thought older school buildings in the region would make for nice temporary housing facilities for recent immigrants. Vanishing St. Louis recently profiled the Hempstead school and there are several others that need a new life with a new use.

From what I understand from a high school presentation on the Bosnian settlement of St. Louis, the International Institute helps with providing temporary and permanent housing, job training and employment, ESL for adults, small business loans, etc. One interesting thing to note is that the International Institute no longer works with the Bosnian community because it is sufficiently established and can take care of any new arrivals without their assistance. It seems to do a lot of good work.

STLEnginerd · PostJun 17, 2014#322014-06-17T18:58+00:00

^Definitely an important link in the chain. I keep thinking that the region needs some "Ellis Island"-ish temporary housing infrastructure so that they can provide needed temporary housing for immigrants. Then organizations like International Institute can help transition them to more permanent homes. Maybe that's just an old fashioned way to look at immigration but it seems logical to me.

roger wyoming II · PostJun 26, 2014#332014-06-26T16:14+00:00

The Mosaic project funded a study on immigration to the area since 2010 and it looks like there has been some progress but we still lag behind many other areas:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illi ... f7fc9.html

From 2010-2013, the Hispanic population of the 16-county metro area grew by 9.5 percent, to 79,000, according to the data. The Asian population grew by 8.4 percent, to more than 66,000. Much of that growth, particularly among Asians, was in St. Louis County.

During the same period, the region also attracted 12,500 more immigrants than it lost. While regional leaders will view that as a positive sign, that growth is occurring at a much slower rate than in many other big cities.

“It’s good news that St. Louis is (attracting immigrants), albeit at a slow pace,” said Jack Strauss, a University of Denver economist. He did a study of the region’s immigrant population in 2012 for the St. Louis Mosaic Project, which aims to turn St. Louis into the fastest-growing metro area for immigrants by 2020.

Interesting to not that BUT FOR this immigration, the Saint Louis area metro population would have dropped:

In addition to their impact on the economy, immigrants have played a key role — along with birth rates — in sustaining the population of a region that has experienced anemic growth in recent years.

The St. Louis area has grown by only half a percentage point since 2010, to more than 2.8 million, in part because of negative domestic migration, meaning that more nonimmigrants leave than move in.

jcity · PostJun 28, 2014#342014-06-28T00:45+00:00

Hispanic workers flock to cities where they can get jobs. Let's become right to work and attract these construction workers they way they flock to other cities. Let's get some actual diversity within these work crews, and not all white labor union guys from jeffco.

Greatest St. Louis · PostJun 28, 2014#352014-06-28T01:24+00:00

By that logic, they'll be out of this city as soon as the construction boom wanes. Let's make sure the jobs go to people who've put down roots and are invested in the region long-term.

Ebsy · PostJun 28, 2014#362014-06-28T01:31+00:00

jcity wrote:...Let's become right to work and attract these construction workers they way they flock to other cities...

Let's not.

bigmclargehuge · PostJun 28, 2014#372014-06-28T01:57+00:00

oh crap

TheNewSaintLouis · PostJun 28, 2014#382014-06-28T05:12+00:00

Speaking of immigration.
Does Saint.Louis have it's own station that plays Spanish music ?

dbInSouthCity · PostJun 28, 2014#392014-06-28T16:09+00:00

^ I'm sure it does, I know there is a AM station that plays Bosnian music and talk shows, the same station does some sorts of Arabic after the Bosnian shows

Edit. Found it
770am
Looks like it does a little bit of everything. Bosnian, Croatia, Polish, German, Italian ect

http://www.wewradio.com

leeharveyawesome · PostJul 28, 2014#402014-07-28T04:24+00:00

Posted yesterday, Pittsburgh immigration and a "foreign influx". Everything is working out pretty good in Pittsburgh. Wish we could do more here. There's been a few high profile immigrant murders over the last few years. Maybe the gossip in immigration circles is that there's better options than St. Louis. The violence and crime reputation can be quite repellant.

http://triblive.com/mobile/6467292-96/p ... e-families

roger wyoming II · PostMar 01, 2015#412015-03-01T17:37+00:00

Good article on how the increase in immigration and diversity are really starting to show in the composition of our region's elementary schools. There are now more non-white first graders than white first-graders in the county...
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/educ ... 97639.html

But the rapid suburbanization of black, Hispanic and Asian families, coupled with a decline in the white population, is diversifying this school and others. In St. Louis County as a whole, minority groups are gaining in numbers as the white population drops.

The transformation is manifest first in the earliest grades. Immigration and higher birth rates among some minority groups means that young children are more diverse than the general population. As those children age, the racial makeup of all schools — and ultimately the population as a whole — changes.

It’s a phenomenon happening across much of the St. Louis area, in districts stretching from Collinsville to St. Charles, where most first grades are among the most diverse groups of children the region has ever seen.

goat314 · PostMar 01, 2015#422015-03-01T18:36+00:00

^ demographics don't lie. St. Louis will probably be a minority majority region in the next 20-30 years. If you look at it, tens of thousands of whites are leaving St. Louis every decade, but they are being replaced by mostly non-white immigrants and a slowly trickling black population. I'd imagine that the "white population" would be much lower if Bosnians were not counted as white.

i,Iive,to,draw · PostMar 01, 2015#432015-03-01T19:30+00:00

I thought the African American population was slowing trickling out of the region like other rust belt/northern metros???

roger wyoming II · PostMar 01, 2015#442015-03-01T19:54+00:00

^ From 2000-2010 we actually had a regional gain of African-Americans.... heavy flight from the city to the county though. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if by 2030 "whites alone" comprise the single largest group in the City. Maybe even by 2020.

And looking at the census numbers, I don't believe the region lost whites last decade as the outer counties gained more whites than "Saint Louis Squared" a.k.a. Saint Louis City and County lost.

But Saint Louis County lost almost 79,000, or 10%, of identified "white alone" last decade and went from 76% of the population to 70%.
http://censusviewer.com/county/MO/St.%20Louis

goat314 · PostMar 01, 2015#452015-03-01T19:58+00:00

i,Iive,to,draw wrote:I thought the African American population was slowing trickling out of the region like other rust belt/northern metros???

No, St. Louis' metro black population actually grew from 2000-2010. I don't know what effects Ferguson will have, but St. Louis still attracts a fair number of African-Americans and recently African immigrants. I think the Black population grew twice as fast as the region as a whole.

gary kreie · PostMar 01, 2015#462015-03-01T23:17+00:00

St. Louis City actually went from majority African American in the 2000 census, to majority all the other races combined in 2010. No single race has a majority anymore in the city. White population went down, but black population in the city went down faster.

http://censusviewer.com/city/MO/St.%20Louis

i,Iive,to,draw · PostMar 01, 2015#472015-03-01T23:21+00:00

goat314 wrote:
i,Iive,to,draw wrote:I thought the African American population was slowing trickling out of the region like other rust belt/northern metros???
No, St. Louis' metro black population actually grew from 2000-2010. I don't know what effects Ferguson will have, but St. Louis still attracts a fair number of African-Americans and recently African immigrants. I think the Black population grew twice as fast as the region as a whole.

I remember seeing post on another thread from a 2010-2013 census estimate we where losing African Americans around 12,000 from 2010. So that is why I asked

roger wyoming II · PostMar 02, 2015#482015-03-02T01:46+00:00

^ I don't know too much about the more recent estimates, but I find the 2000-2010 data just fascinating with respect to cities and race. Here are a few observations....

1) There was a large increase in Black or African-American population in Georgia - a whopping gain of 600,000 or 25% -- but the City of Atlanta saw a decrease of 30,000 or 12%. That was surprising.

2) The only northern states that I could see with a loss of Black or African-American population were Michigan and Illinois (and a small amount in CT). But I also wonder how much African immigration might go towards the increase in places like New York.

3) Minneapolis lost Asian population last decade.... I didn't even know it was possible for a larger city to do such a thing. It also lost a small percentage of its white only population. Meanwhile, St. Paul lost 11% of its white only population but had a large increase in Asian, Black/AA, population. Both of the Twin Cities had a small loss in population, but had sharply different racial shifts.

4) Saint Louis City and Pittsburgh were extremely similar in their overall racial changes.... both lost 8% of the total population with more blacks/AA leaving than whites.... in Saint Louis, it was a loss of 12% of blacks/AA and 8% white only and in Pittsburgh it was 12% blacks/AA and 11% white only. Both gained the same percentage of Hispanic origin (57-58%) but Pittsburgh did a bit better with an increase in Asian population.

As far as I can tell, these two river cities were the only declining cities to see more black flight than white flight (with the exception of Detroit which saw loss on an entirely different plane). Chicago had significant black flight with a loss of 16% but its white only population was static so really didn't have much "white flight" to speak of.

leeharveyawesome · PostMar 02, 2015#492015-03-02T10:08+00:00

I can't prove it and give you any numbers but there has definitely been many African-Americans leave St. Louis for Texas over the last 2 or 3 years. This is a fact relayed to me from actual African-Americans. It is a well known thing in the community.

STLEnginerd · PostMar 02, 2015#502015-03-02T12:15+00:00

This is a fact relayed to me from actual African-Americans.

^Whitest quote ever? Not saying your info is wrong but that line made me laugh.

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