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PostOct 19, 2023#201

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We also have 20,000 vacant homes in various states of disrepair....i bet if you give these immigrants $30,000 and the keys they'll take care of the rest. 
Set up a way for them to have access to $30K into an escrow account that they can submit receipts and invoices for home repairs... takes a lot of the city labor costs out of it - and I bet we'd see an easy way to have a ton of homes fixed up quickly!

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PostOct 19, 2023#202

I don't agree with giving non-citizens $30k to fix up homes if those opportunities aren't being extended to American citizens from those neighborhoods.

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PostOct 19, 2023#203

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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So where are we going to house these people? In the city or county? The population is definitely needed, but I'm just curious where they'd be housed.
Caves in south city.

The population is also definitely needed in Chicago. Which is shrinking at a much faster rate than StL
chicago is shrinking on paper but i dont think it is in reality.  it has A LOT of other undocument persons that make their own way to family there....same thing with California. 
So the Census bureau leaves out data regarding undocumented people from its estimates?

I find it hard to believe they’d leave a hole that big in their work.

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PostOct 19, 2023#204

I don't think Census estimates leave out undocumented folks but I don't think Census estimates in general are that reliable. They're often 10-20% off the decennial census count. 

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PostOct 19, 2023#205

^ it doesn’t leave them out but the margin of error is very high.

PostOct 19, 2023#206

goat314 wrote:
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I don't agree with giving non-citizens $30k to fix up homes if those opportunities aren't being extended to American citizens from those neighborhoods.
We do with the NS program, city spends $30-40k to get the building upright and lets anyone guy it on the cheap to finish it up

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PostOct 20, 2023#207

St. Louis looks to resettle Latino immigrants now in Chicago
https://archive.ph/MlybM

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PostOct 21, 2023#208

These people are illegal immigrants, they are not allowed to hold jobs.

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PostOct 21, 2023#209

^ this is addressed in the story

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PostOct 21, 2023#210

southcitygent wrote:
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These people are illegal immigrants, they are not allowed to hold jobs.
Had to laugh about this. The overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants work, and many of them have more than one job. 

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PostOct 22, 2023#211

^ Lol yeah, without undocumented immigrant workers, none of us could eat.

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PostOct 22, 2023#212

Trololzilla wrote:
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^ Lol yeah, without undocumented immigrant workers, none of us could eat.
Not true.

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PostOct 23, 2023#213

I mean sure, we'd have corn, wheat, and soybeans but practically no fruits or vegetables.

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PostNov 07, 2023#214

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/st-loui ... ork-force/

STL to help Chicago relocate Venezuelan immigrants here

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PostNov 07, 2023#215

It’s disappointing that this has to be cast as “St. Louis, in desperate need of warm bodies, eager to absorb Chicago migrants”.

St Louis has an incredibly welcoming spirit and can point to countless immigrant and refugee resettlement success stories. Our agencies and communities are stepping up to offer help because it’s the right thing to do - but that’s not an interesting story I guess.

Where are Detroit, Minneapolis, Milwaukee and Indy in offering to help Chicago? Nowhere to be found.

We could just as easily cast this as “Wealthy global alpha city unable to prevent migrants from freezing to death as it boils over with racist infighting, eager to share the load with brotherly neighbor to the south.”

Oh well.

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PostNov 13, 2023#216

Embarrassing.
Glad to hear that they acknowledge that negative externalities exist at least.

STL PR - St. Charles County Council to consider resolution decrying bringing Latin-Americans to region
“It affects St. Charles County, we’re your neighbors,” Brazil said in an interview. “And so you always should be conscious of your neighbors. And they're not, but that's just typical St. Louis [and] St. Louis County.”
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... -to-region

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PostNov 13, 2023#217

Yeah, like when has St. Charles County ever tried to be a good neighbor to STL?

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PostNov 13, 2023#218

Wow.  Joe Brazil is clearly the worst kind of stupid.

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PostNov 13, 2023#219

Maybe he should go back to Brazil, lol.

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PostNov 13, 2023#220

When I think of St. Charles, my first and last thought is of tacos on corn tortillas


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PostNov 14, 2023#221

St. Charles would not be a thing without St. Louis. 

Whenever people talk about west county being just as bad as St. Charles when it comes to threads about new Chesterfield developments, I should point them to this. There IS a huge difference between west county and the chuckers.

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PostNov 21, 2023#222

Nobody said St. Louis


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PostNov 22, 2023#223

Neither did the tens of thousands of Bosnians yet here we are

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PostNov 22, 2023#224

leeharveyawesome wrote:
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Nobody said St. Louis

Almost everyone said New York. A handful of Californias, Texas, and Atlanta. Counted only 2 Chicagos.

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PostNov 22, 2023#225

They've probably never heard of St. Louis. There are a lot of Americans who haven't.

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