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PostDec 08, 2022#176

First look: The U.S. cities where immigrants are moving and thriving:
https://www.axios.com/2022/12/08/immigr ... -us-cities

St Louis is #6 in a study looking at the well-being of immigrants in cities across the country.
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PostDec 08, 2022#177

I keep hearing that the vast majority of the Afghan refugees landing in St. Louis are moving out to West County.

It sounds like the city would like to place the refugees in the Bevo area, but most of them already have connections out in places like Chesterfield and Ballwin. 

The families that arrive without connections are also typically very large, and it's not always easy for the city to find them housing. 

Just what I've heard; it could be that others are witnessing the opposite. I'd like to see the city benefit from the addition of these refugees, but I'll settle for the region picking up the win if that's how this is going to play out. 

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PostDec 08, 2022#178

Why Bevo...?  Dutchtown seemed like a better fit.  I assumed they had greater vacancy rates, lower rents, and they even have a grocer called Afghan Market on S Grand.

PostDec 08, 2022#179

I wish they could have renovated the Old Clevland High School Building as a temporary shelter for incoming Refugees.  Sometimes it sucks that we have building codes and such.  We can't do anything fast.  It would have been rough, but it has a lot of space and would have established a node from which the refugees could operate for a time until they could be placed in more permanent housing ideally in the near vicinity.

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PostDec 13, 2022#180

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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I keep hearing that the vast majority of the Afghan refugees landing in St. Louis are moving out to West County.

It sounds like the city would like to place the refugees in the Bevo area, but most of them already have connections out in places like Chesterfield and Ballwin. 

The families that arrive without connections are also typically very large, and it's not always easy for the city to find them housing. 

Just what I've heard; it could be that others are witnessing the opposite. I'd like to see the city benefit from the addition of these refugees, but I'll settle for the region picking up the win if that's how this is going to play out. 
The apartment complexes off Dorsett in Maryland Heights now house many more immigrant families--mostly South Asian it seems-- than they did in the 1990s when that was the place to be for young singles. Nowadays many more young people are picking city neighborhoods like The Grove or CWE. 

 I'm all for more immigrants in city neighborhoods but it's also good to see those kinds of communities spring up in the suburbs. And while those areas are usually more car centric you do have *some* walkability in the Dorsett/McKelvey area. 

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PostDec 14, 2022#181

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/culture ... few-months

Didn't see this posted anywhere. STL to receive another 300 Afghan refugees in the coming months. This will make the total Afghan refugees around 1000 within the past year. The article also says many Afghan refugees are beginning to leave their original host cities and move to STL.

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PostDec 14, 2022#182

If we are looking for a good use of the Rams money, a sizable donation to the International Institute would be a hell of an investment. Invest into building their capacity so they can get more people here faster for decades to come

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PostDec 14, 2022#183

I know a few Afghans here in St. Louis -- not refugees, but still connected to the community -- and they say they're hearing the same thing; that a great many of the families here have family members or friends in other cities, much more expensive cities, and that they're planning moves to cheaper St. Louis. 

PostDec 14, 2022#184

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If we are looking for a good use of the Rams money, a sizable donation to the International Institute would be a hell of an investment. Invest into building their capacity so they can get more people here faster for decades to come
100%.

Nobody is doing more to grow the population of St. Louis city, and to increase its vibrancy, diversity, and food culture, than the International Institute. 

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PostDec 14, 2022#185

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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I know a few Afghans here in St. Louis -- not refugees, but still connected to the community -- and they say they're hearing the same thing; that a great many of the families here have family members or friends in other cities, much more expensive cities, and that they're planning moves to cheaper St. Louis. 
I am sure most are connected to people still in Afghanistan, as that country continues to sadly deteriorate there will hopefully be somewhat of a pipeline for future refugees to choose STL to settle with the help and support of the first wave. 

Hopefully we can start to target other refugee populations as well. Maybe T.J. can antagonize Greg Abbott more on Twitter and get him to send us some of those busloads of people from the southern border

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PostDec 14, 2022#186

RockChalkSTL wrote:
Dec 14, 2022
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
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If we are looking for a good use of the Rams money, a sizable donation to the International Institute would be a hell of an investment. Invest into building their capacity so they can get more people here faster for decades to come
100%.

Nobody is doing more to grow the population of St. Louis city, and to increase its vibrancy, diversity, and food culture, than the International Institute. 
Seconded. In the interim time, I recommend that anyone who has donations in mind - whether physical goods or cash - give to the International Institute. 

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PostApr 19, 2023#187

Jacobin - From Slavery Abolition to Public Education, German Radicals Made American History

https://jacobin.com/2023/03/german-amer ... l-st-louis

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PostApr 20, 2023#188

Nice find.

There’s a book called ‘Germans for a Free Missouri’ that covers the events leading up to the Civil War in great detail, it reprints a lot of articles from the German newspapers in St. Louis, one of which is mentioned in the article. Stumbled across it in college and have been fascinated by this story ever since.

The Jacobin article is nice in that it gives backstory (Napoleonic era/Rights of Man) leading up to the failed 1848 revolution as to why so many Germans held liberal, anti-monarchy views.

Definitely bookmarked that article for future reference.

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PostApr 21, 2023#189

quincunx wrote:
Apr 19, 2023
Jacobin - From Slavery Abolition to Public Education, German Radicals Made American History

https://jacobin.com/2023/03/german-amer ... l-st-louis
Wrote about this for a homework assignment... Thanks!

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PostOct 18, 2023#190

Absolutely incredible work! This builds relationships with Chicago and Illinois. Consciously brings new residents! Whatever STL is giving to the International Institute, double it!

St. Louis groups seek to resettle Chicago migrants to boost workforce and population

https://www.wbez.org/stories/st-louis-p ... 5e2bf7ce8a

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PostOct 18, 2023#191

Been waiting for this to drop on UrbanSTL and get discussed. I'm super stoked about this. 

And I totally agree about the International Institute getting more money and funding.

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PostOct 18, 2023#192

This would be a major boost for STL! Can't wait to see what comes of this. 

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PostOct 18, 2023#193

So where are we going to house these people? In the city or county? The population is definitely needed, but I'm just curious where they'd be housed.

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PostOct 18, 2023#194

I wonder if any of them can drive buses or trash pickup trucks. City definitely needs workers more than anybody


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PostOct 18, 2023#195

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So where are we going to house these people? In the city or county? The population is definitely needed, but I'm just curious where they'd be housed.
Caves in south city.

The population is also definitely needed in Chicago. Which is shrinking at a much faster rate than StL

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PostOct 19, 2023#196

Chicago is the victim of Governor vs. Governor politics and has no capacity to resettle the nearly 20,000 people who have been shipped here. Governor and Mayor aren’t on the same page. Most terrifying, Chicago winter is on our doorsteps and the Mayor’s best solution is a tent city. There are legitimate fears that hundreds of refugees will freeze to death this winter.

St. Louis offering to help, even just a few hundred people, might be the first thing Mayor Johnson and Governor P agree on this topic.

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PostOct 19, 2023#197

St. Louis city, County, Metro East, and Springfield should all get involved.

It'd be cool to see Latino population added along that southern Illinois I-55 corridor.



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PostOct 19, 2023#198

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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goat314 wrote:
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So where are we going to house these people? In the city or county? The population is definitely needed, but I'm just curious where they'd be housed.
Caves in south city.

The population is also definitely needed in Chicago. Which is shrinking at a much faster rate than StL
chicago is shrinking on paper but i dont think it is in reality.  it has A LOT of other undocument persons that make their own way to family there....same thing with California. 

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PostOct 19, 2023#199

International Institute is doing great work.  My one thing is i feel they seem to do mostly hotels for transitional housing which seems very expensive.  We need a way to house people at scale if we are ever going to make a dent in our demographics problem.  My first thought would be taking some of the old Itner schools and renovating them as immigrant transitional housing.  Renovating the old Cleveland School for this purpose seems like a decent fit, although i am sure it would be expensive.  It would also be a good reuse of the building and preserve the building into the future.

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PostOct 19, 2023#200

We also have 20,000 vacant homes in various states of disrepair....i bet if you give these immigrants $30,000 and the keys they'll take care of the rest. 

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