Gone Corporate—I appreciate your posts. They always talk me off the ledge, slap cold water on my face and spin me 'til I'm pointing my forward.
cheers!
cheers!
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The article says St. Louis and China are in the later stages of negotiations. I hope, hope, hope they can get it done.
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Another article on the Taiwan trip
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1012100033
Article about college basketball
http://www.scanews.com/2010/12/s1059/105915/
Schlafly
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2bc8b.html
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_ ... 1012100033
Article about college basketball
http://www.scanews.com/2010/12/s1059/105915/
Schlafly
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2bc8b.html
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Watching "America The Story of Us" on history, and I cannot help but see all the times an idea focuses on a transportation project which literally each time results in the corresponding city quadroupling (or more) in size.
It is making me extremely excited.
It is making me extremely excited.
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^It'll be huge for the region if St. Louis can pull it off and become the selected city. It could most definitely serve as an economic, cultural, and population stimulant for the area.
Get this, and get the 2012 DNC, and St. Louis will be poised to make a huge step forward coming out of this recession.
Get this, and get the 2012 DNC, and St. Louis will be poised to make a huge step forward coming out of this recession.
Somewhat related—I was reading a book title 'The Pursuit of Glory' It's a history of Europe from the early 1700s to 1815. The first chapter is about 'roads' and how the creation of state-funded infrastructure doubled, tripled, quadrupled the economy (and exchange of ideas) across Europe. IOW, Europe became the global powerhouse in the 19th century due to transportation. My guess is it's all about moving people and goods.newstl2020 wrote:Watching "America The Story of Us" on history, and I cannot help but see all the times an idea focuses on a transportation project which literally each time results in the corresponding city quadroupling (or more) in size.
It is making me extremely excited.
As the previous post from 'cardsblues' pointed out—we're seeing basketball/education. This is going to be bigger than warehouses full of beef and stereos!
I'm excited too!
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Not new info, just new source
Older, semi-related article
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 467487.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 470012.htm
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/ ... 2003490751China and St Louis are close to a deal to turn Lambert-St Louis International Airport into a freight hub. Officials said that after three years of negotiations with Beijing, they were in the final stages of talks that could bring cargo flights from China to Lambert as early as next spring. So far, three Chinese carriers have reportedly expressed interest in using the airport for commercial purposes. The central government, local governments and private businesses have been endeavoring to turn Lambert into the Chinese freight hub in the US. Local business leaders are also hoping for increased Chinese investment to the region, particularly in industries like manufacturing, biotechnology and real estate.
Older, semi-related article
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 467487.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/i ... 474815.htmAlabama, Missouri, Tennessee and Texas have seen China emerge as their third biggest export market.
"In Zhejiang, there is a great deal of interest among private companies to invest in the US," he told China Daily.
Due to increasingly stringent rules in the China real estate industry, many businessmen with cash are looking for other investment options, he said.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/c ... 470012.htm
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I'm confused after seeing the recent articles that have been posted. Are both Lambert and MidAmerica going to be part of the deal now, or are they still 'competing'?
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On my trip to Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou and Suzhou in China I encountered several signs that caught my attention. Let it be said: if I could write in Chinese like they write in English I would be very proud of myself. Nonetheless some were quite funny:
Last but not least:
Mods, wasn't sure where to post this. Hope this is OK.
On a side note: I am getting nervous about the Chinese taking their sweet time to call us about the Lambert cargo deal.....
Last but not least:
Mods, wasn't sure where to post this. Hope this is OK.
On a side note: I am getting nervous about the Chinese taking their sweet time to call us about the Lambert cargo deal.....
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It's taken three years so far, so we can't get anxious. These things take time.
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Significant reports from the Business Journal today...
"Outgoing U.S. Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., said Friday he met with Vice Premier Wang Qishan this week and that both expressed hope that Chinese air cargo flights to Lambert airport could begin in early 2011."
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... in-11.html
In related news, China will renew imports of beef made in the US, including MO beef. Vice Premier Wang Qushan conveyed to Senator Bond that he looks forward to "reimport(ing) 'excellent' Missouri beef."
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... or-mo.html
The Count: Try not to be anxious. As Dr. Hannibal Lector said it: All good things to those who wait.
"Outgoing U.S. Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., said Friday he met with Vice Premier Wang Qishan this week and that both expressed hope that Chinese air cargo flights to Lambert airport could begin in early 2011."
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... in-11.html
In related news, China will renew imports of beef made in the US, including MO beef. Vice Premier Wang Qushan conveyed to Senator Bond that he looks forward to "reimport(ing) 'excellent' Missouri beef."
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... or-mo.html
The Count: Try not to be anxious. As Dr. Hannibal Lector said it: All good things to those who wait.
STLCardsBlues1989 wrote:It's taken three years so far, so we can't get anxious. These things take time.
Thanks for your support. Took my Prozac. Feeling much better now.Gone Corporate wrote: The Count: Try not to be anxious. As Dr. Hannibal Lector said it: All good things to those who wait.
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These are pretty funny. Early translation software used to be fun to play with when you translated a known document or phrase to another language and then back to English. It reminds me of that.The Count wrote:On my trip to Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou and Suzhou in China I encountered several signs that caught my attention. Let it be said: if I could write in Chinese like they write in English I would be very proud of myself. Nonetheless some were quite funny:
I like this Somking Area sign. I think I can read the Chinese character that looks like a guy in the smoking room at Lambert with another guy kicking it.
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Mid-America Airport hopes to create a deal with the Chinese so that they can export Carp from the Mississippi River to China.
http://www.bnd.com/2010/12/17/1519949/n ... erica.html
http://www.bnd.com/2010/12/17/1519949/n ... erica.html
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Let's hear what our Leader's have to say.... From Today's BJ
Francis Slay
What does the regional China hub proposal mean to the City?
New investment. New markets. New residents.
Charles Dooley
What does the regional China hub proposal mean to the county?
Quite simply, this could be the kind of game-changer that will position us and this entire region to become not only the economic engine of the state, but an economic engine for the country.
Steve Ehlmann (St. Chuck)
What does the regional China Hub proposal mean to the county?
It means a lot if we can pull it off. I have served on the commission, and I know it would mean new opportunities for exports for regional businesses, including those in St. Charles County. It would ensure a thriving, vibrant airport for the region, and I think we would see some investment in the county by Chinese companies.
Mark Kern (St. Clair)
How does the regional China hub proposal affect St. Clair County’s own plan?
MidAmerica St. Louis Airport, which is owned by St. Clair County, has already received two air cargo test flights from China. The second was this past November, and that 747 carried 100 metric tons of cargo, so it was at near capacity. This new trade route has been about seven years in the making on the Illinois side of the river. We believe MidAmerica is the right choice with the infrastructure needs of the air cargo community already in place.
Many cargo insiders believe MidAmerica’s low landing fees, thousands of acres of available land and direct connection to all major interstates, as well as its rail and river infrastructure, position it as the long-term, viable heavy-cargo. We would like to work regionally on this, but if that doesn’t happen, we will continue moving forward. We came up with this idea in 2004. Since then, we have been targeting the private sector in China and have made numerous trips to China. Our goal is to connect China and Asia to Latin America using MidAmerica as the centrally located hub.
Francis Slay
What does the regional China hub proposal mean to the City?
New investment. New markets. New residents.
Charles Dooley
What does the regional China hub proposal mean to the county?
Quite simply, this could be the kind of game-changer that will position us and this entire region to become not only the economic engine of the state, but an economic engine for the country.
Steve Ehlmann (St. Chuck)
What does the regional China Hub proposal mean to the county?
It means a lot if we can pull it off. I have served on the commission, and I know it would mean new opportunities for exports for regional businesses, including those in St. Charles County. It would ensure a thriving, vibrant airport for the region, and I think we would see some investment in the county by Chinese companies.
Mark Kern (St. Clair)
How does the regional China hub proposal affect St. Clair County’s own plan?
MidAmerica St. Louis Airport, which is owned by St. Clair County, has already received two air cargo test flights from China. The second was this past November, and that 747 carried 100 metric tons of cargo, so it was at near capacity. This new trade route has been about seven years in the making on the Illinois side of the river. We believe MidAmerica is the right choice with the infrastructure needs of the air cargo community already in place.
Many cargo insiders believe MidAmerica’s low landing fees, thousands of acres of available land and direct connection to all major interstates, as well as its rail and river infrastructure, position it as the long-term, viable heavy-cargo. We would like to work regionally on this, but if that doesn’t happen, we will continue moving forward. We came up with this idea in 2004. Since then, we have been targeting the private sector in China and have made numerous trips to China. Our goal is to connect China and Asia to Latin America using MidAmerica as the centrally located hub.
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^yikes! the question was about a regional China hub not MidAmerica.
Kern's question is little more direct as it varies slightly from the others. So I cCan't blame him for pointed response.
Yikes though is a good way to put it, I get a kick on how he makes a point of them pursing the idea before the others and implies the fact that he wasn't invited to the party at the same time in his comments. I can't decide if he is little more insecure in their position, freight forwarders are a fickle bunch and can easily jump to another runway, and/or if his second hand knowledge/connections is telling him that Lambert is about to snare somthing big.
Yikes though is a good way to put it, I get a kick on how he makes a point of them pursing the idea before the others and implies the fact that he wasn't invited to the party at the same time in his comments. I can't decide if he is little more insecure in their position, freight forwarders are a fickle bunch and can easily jump to another runway, and/or if his second hand knowledge/connections is telling him that Lambert is about to snare somthing big.
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Lambert awaits word on China hub deal
Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge, director of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, told KMOX she’s hearing industry rumors that the Chinese have already picked St. Louis for a trade hub but aren’t saying so publicly, perhaps until after the Chinese president comes to the U.S. later this month.
Read more: Lambert awaits word on China hub deal | St. Louis Business Journal
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -deal.html
Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge, director of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, told KMOX she’s hearing industry rumors that the Chinese have already picked St. Louis for a trade hub but aren’t saying so publicly, perhaps until after the Chinese president comes to the U.S. later this month.
Read more: Lambert awaits word on China hub deal | St. Louis Business Journal
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -deal.html
I wonder what the context of her contents. I don't think it shows well or would go over well with the Chinese delegation in my opintion if your Airport Director is stating speculation or hearsay or even if her sources our correct. I believe it is very different, especially from the parties involved, if KMOX had stated it from Alex as an example rather her.
The other way to look at it of course, if she was given a green light. If so, my next big leap in speculation has to do with the DNC convention. Having the Chinese announce a push to encourage consumer consumption of US products starting with a need to get a air cargo hub started to meet the demand would be a political win and good timing to announce your convention pick. Once again, big jump in speculation on my part
The other way to look at it of course, if she was given a green light. If so, my next big leap in speculation has to do with the DNC convention. Having the Chinese announce a push to encourage consumer consumption of US products starting with a need to get a air cargo hub started to meet the demand would be a political win and good timing to announce your convention pick. Once again, big jump in speculation on my part
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^ Then again, consider the context. KMOX wrote the primary article (Kevin Killeen), titled "China hub deal not dead yet".
Link: http://kmox.cbslocal.com/2011/01/06/chi ... -dead-yet/
Talk about a self-defeating approach to journalism. If the implementation of a full multinational trading pact between the world's two largest economies, based at Lambert, doesn't occur immediately, then some journalists are ready to title that failure, whether the original writer of the article or the news editor seeking more scandalous headlines. Whether or not this is the predominant trend of StL-based media, to be self-defeating and anticipating being let down, is for another discussion. But, if I was Director Hamm-Niebruegge, I'd surely want to counter such perceptions.
After all, this is a discussion with the Chinese, with implications on long-term mutual cooperation and both economic development & potential illiquid investment. Speaking generally of their business culture: while the Chinese are able to act relatively quickly in domestic business, they are more often to pursue bilateral agreements at a more measured, deliberate pace. And, often following through on decisions firmly and with much dedication. I wouldn't think they'd follow-through lightly; Lord knows they're not going to find a better value proposition for air hubbing than through StL.
I very much could see President Hu Jintao visiting StL either before or after traveling to DC & Chicago, and I actually would anticipate this should the "Big Idea" reach fruition. Such major partnerships usually require much fanfare and ceremony. I personally wonder to what degree President Obama will participate (especially because this isn't Chicago); he may travel to StL as well for a signing ceremony.
And while I don't think any potential "hub" announcement is tied to the 2012 Dem Convention announcement (this is business, not politics), it sure would be a shot in the arm to StL's attempts to land the convention, with POTUS able to participate in what surely would be a job-boosting development. That'd be one helluva photo op.
Link: http://kmox.cbslocal.com/2011/01/06/chi ... -dead-yet/
Talk about a self-defeating approach to journalism. If the implementation of a full multinational trading pact between the world's two largest economies, based at Lambert, doesn't occur immediately, then some journalists are ready to title that failure, whether the original writer of the article or the news editor seeking more scandalous headlines. Whether or not this is the predominant trend of StL-based media, to be self-defeating and anticipating being let down, is for another discussion. But, if I was Director Hamm-Niebruegge, I'd surely want to counter such perceptions.
After all, this is a discussion with the Chinese, with implications on long-term mutual cooperation and both economic development & potential illiquid investment. Speaking generally of their business culture: while the Chinese are able to act relatively quickly in domestic business, they are more often to pursue bilateral agreements at a more measured, deliberate pace. And, often following through on decisions firmly and with much dedication. I wouldn't think they'd follow-through lightly; Lord knows they're not going to find a better value proposition for air hubbing than through StL.
I very much could see President Hu Jintao visiting StL either before or after traveling to DC & Chicago, and I actually would anticipate this should the "Big Idea" reach fruition. Such major partnerships usually require much fanfare and ceremony. I personally wonder to what degree President Obama will participate (especially because this isn't Chicago); he may travel to StL as well for a signing ceremony.
And while I don't think any potential "hub" announcement is tied to the 2012 Dem Convention announcement (this is business, not politics), it sure would be a shot in the arm to StL's attempts to land the convention, with POTUS able to participate in what surely would be a job-boosting development. That'd be one helluva photo op.
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"Dooley said we should have some good news to report later this month or next about making Lambert-St. Louis International Airport a Chinese trade hub. Slay said he expects two to three flights from China to start this year."
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... ounty.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... ounty.html