I'm looked at stlrealtors.com and it wasn't a big help. Anyone have a suggestion of a realtor and a contact site for that person? I've been looking at www.upperendleasing.com or www.samandsandy.com. Anyone have experience with these companies?
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If I'm not mistaken, I think Sam and Sandy are under investigation. I wouldn't use them.TAdams wrote:I'm looked at stlrealtors.com and it wasn't a big help. Anyone have a suggestion of a realtor and a contact site for that person? I've been looking at http://www.upperendleasing.com or http://www.samandsandy.com. Anyone have experience with these companies?
I was at this event: http://www.bomastl.org/cde.cfm?event=377308 for work last week and the speaker, Brian Grace with SNR Denton, spoke quite a bit about the status of the China Hub.
The impression I got was that after last year's debacle of a special session they put out the amended $60M dollar package this year as a feeler to see what kind of support they could muster. He said there likely won't be much support for it this session, as it is an election year and most of the legislators are more worried about getting re-elected than making any waves.
However, he said that next year, because of the lawmakers that will forced to step aside by term-limits, it will be much more politically feasible to get funding for the China Hub passed. He certainly didn't make it sound like a slam dunk, but he was very optimistic.
I know quite a few people on this board worked hard on this last year, so they would certainly be in a better position than me to evaluate Brian Grace's assessment of the situation, but I just thought I would pass along an update from somebody who is working on this in Jeff City.
The impression I got was that after last year's debacle of a special session they put out the amended $60M dollar package this year as a feeler to see what kind of support they could muster. He said there likely won't be much support for it this session, as it is an election year and most of the legislators are more worried about getting re-elected than making any waves.
However, he said that next year, because of the lawmakers that will forced to step aside by term-limits, it will be much more politically feasible to get funding for the China Hub passed. He certainly didn't make it sound like a slam dunk, but he was very optimistic.
I know quite a few people on this board worked hard on this last year, so they would certainly be in a better position than me to evaluate Brian Grace's assessment of the situation, but I just thought I would pass along an update from somebody who is working on this in Jeff City.
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^Absolutely, term limits for some of the biggest impeders of the Trade Hub will make it so very much more politically feasible for passage of some sort of incentive plan meant to allow for this industry to develop and prosper. It all comes out to who will suffer if it passes (i.e. low income housing developers) and how much they will "donate to the reelection campaigns" of the remaining "no-nothing" legislators to sway their votes towards the negative. Keep hope alive, especially if Saint Clair County continues to shame Jeff City.
Watching legislation get made is a lot like watching sausage get made, only a lot slower and everyone's still hungry afterwards.
Watching legislation get made is a lot like watching sausage get made, only a lot slower and everyone's still hungry afterwards.
Good news!
STL Biz Journal: FedEx's Global Freight Forwarders Operations setting up shop in STL
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... louis.html
Memphis moving up to STL to further international trade... Shows the vitality of what we've got going!
STL Biz Journal: FedEx's Global Freight Forwarders Operations setting up shop in STL
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... louis.html
Memphis moving up to STL to further international trade... Shows the vitality of what we've got going!
Nice article from the Beacon. Curious on what Tilley has in store but tough to get optimistic with the crowd in Jeff City.
https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/23 ... erpage=478
China Hub group to regroup, revive bid to make Lambert cargo hub
In Economy
By Jo Mannies, Beacon political reporter
2:41 pm on Tue, 03.27.12
By the end of this week, leaders of the stymied effort to transform Lambert St. Louis International Airport into an international cargo hub hope to have their mission back on track.
State House Speaker Steve Tilley, R-Perryville, says he expects his chamber’s soon-to-be-unveiled economic development bill to resurrect proposed state tax breaks for freight-forwarders, to encourage them to direct more cargo shipments in and out of Lambert.
https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/23 ... erpage=478
China Hub group to regroup, revive bid to make Lambert cargo hub
In Economy
By Jo Mannies, Beacon political reporter
2:41 pm on Tue, 03.27.12
By the end of this week, leaders of the stymied effort to transform Lambert St. Louis International Airport into an international cargo hub hope to have their mission back on track.
State House Speaker Steve Tilley, R-Perryville, says he expects his chamber’s soon-to-be-unveiled economic development bill to resurrect proposed state tax breaks for freight-forwarders, to encourage them to direct more cargo shipments in and out of Lambert.
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"There's an old Vulcan proverb: Only Nixon could go to China."
And now, he's also off to Brazil...
Latin America could be the key to establishing long-term utilization of Lambert & STL as an International Trade Hub, as well as being the linchpin between East Asia and Latin America. While Brazil and China are two of the fastest-emerging countries economically in the world (as well as being two of the BRICs), they haven't been able to engage each other through aerial connections very well, owing to the curvature of the Earth's effects on long distance flights.
If we can establish STL as the meeting point between the two, we would recognize significant traffic at Lambert as well as make STL geographically significant all over again. On a global scale, it redefines STL's purpose...
And now, he's also off to Brazil...
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... esses.htmlGov. Nixon and St. Louis businesses head to Brazil
Gov. Jay Nixon will lead a delegation of Missouri businesses to Brazil to sign an agreement to open and expand new markets in that country as well as expand cultural and educational partnerships with the state.
Businesses including Boeing, Monsanto, Orscheln Products, Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica Inc., Solae and Missouri State University will join the governor in Brazil from April 14 to 18....
Latin America could be the key to establishing long-term utilization of Lambert & STL as an International Trade Hub, as well as being the linchpin between East Asia and Latin America. While Brazil and China are two of the fastest-emerging countries economically in the world (as well as being two of the BRICs), they haven't been able to engage each other through aerial connections very well, owing to the curvature of the Earth's effects on long distance flights.
If we can establish STL as the meeting point between the two, we would recognize significant traffic at Lambert as well as make STL geographically significant all over again. On a global scale, it redefines STL's purpose...
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After all, St. Louis become an important city based on geographic location, and has had that role usurped for the same reason.
Looks like some good news or at some action on the local front. Would be nice if the city could up with some additional funds to tag team this. Maybe with some results you will see St. Charles County think of this as an overall benefit to the Metro region.
Midwest Cargo Hub gets $3 million in funding
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... on-in.html
Midwest Cargo Hub gets $3 million in funding
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... on-in.html
Regarding Latin America.
I was reading this article about SAB Miller moving some Latin coporate operations to Miami. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortord ... _mille.php
If AB In-Bev bought SAB Miller, and we were able to reach some deals with Latin America for exports...would it be logical to think that we will have some operations here in STL?
In general, is buying SAB Miller a big get for St Louis as for as jobs?
I was reading this article about SAB Miller moving some Latin coporate operations to Miami. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortord ... _mille.php
If AB In-Bev bought SAB Miller, and we were able to reach some deals with Latin America for exports...would it be logical to think that we will have some operations here in STL?
In general, is buying SAB Miller a big get for St Louis as for as jobs?
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^ Don't imagine it would bring jobs here, but who knows. STL is surprising close to much of Latin America, but we don't have the connections that Miami and possibly others cities have.
St. Louis started pushing this effort in the Midwest. Now other regions will probably finish their efforts before St. Louis' gets off the ground, unfortunately. Detroit appears to be biting off of St. Louis' efforts. Missouri potentially has caused St. Louis and the State to miss out on a great economic opportunity.
And there doesn't appear to be many naysayers in Michigan like there are in St. Louis.
Southeast Michigan Builds an Aerotropolis
AIRPORT CITIES
From Site Selection magazine, March 2012
Excerpts:
And there doesn't appear to be many naysayers in Michigan like there are in St. Louis.
Southeast Michigan Builds an Aerotropolis
AIRPORT CITIES
From Site Selection magazine, March 2012
Excerpts:
"At the former Ford plant adjacent to the airport, developer Jacoby is advancing an aerotropolis concept that most recently welcomed a $100-million, 400-employee headquarters operation from Porsche. Lots of metropolitan areas would like to be home to an Airport City or Aerotropolis — an airport-anchored area home to commercial, industrial, retail and residential developments. But few cities that aspire to hosting one have the built-in assets required to see one take shape. Detroit does, and efforts have been under way since 2010, under the Detroit Region Aerotropolis moniker, to turn the 60,000 acres (24,300 hectares) around the Detroit Metropolitan (DTW) and Willow Run Airports into a world class Airport City. Among the Detroit Region Aerotropolis’ advantages are its two airports — one that serves as a major hub for Delta Airlines and its chief airport for Asian flights and one, Willow Run, that handles most of the region’s air cargo and general aviation activity.
"Nine local governments along the I-94 corridor and surrounding our airports have come together to form a unique working relationship,” says Wayne County Executive Robert Ficano. “Intergovernmental agreements have been executed to streamline development entitlements processes to get permits and agency approvals within 60 days. Wayne County is very proud to be part of the unique collaboration on the Aerotropolis project."
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And once a half-dozen other cities invest in passenger and cargo flights and services, the naysayers in MO will point to one that "fails" and claim they were smart to not try something.
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^After which they will yell incoherent non-sense about how the state should and shouldn't spend "their" tax dollars despite the fact that about .00000000001% comes from whatever hill-billy-ass district they are there representing.
Followed by all of the St. Louis Representatives cowering in their seats for fear of saying anything that upsets the "important" delegates from out-state, once again failing to show any balls whatsoever while at the same time completely emasculating our city while allowing it to be held hostage to the wims of high school degree toting "economists" in the MO capital.
But, on the plus side... GUNS!
Followed by all of the St. Louis Representatives cowering in their seats for fear of saying anything that upsets the "important" delegates from out-state, once again failing to show any balls whatsoever while at the same time completely emasculating our city while allowing it to be held hostage to the wims of high school degree toting "economists" in the MO capital.
But, on the plus side... GUNS!
Signed a trade agreement with a Brazilian state...
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -with.html
Its pretty obvious that both South America and China want to do business with us. We have the Serengeti of runways as well miles of highway and rail funneling Missouri goods through St. Louis. Its mind-boggling that some of those in Jeff City can't grasp the benefits of this Hub.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -with.html
Its pretty obvious that both South America and China want to do business with us. We have the Serengeti of runways as well miles of highway and rail funneling Missouri goods through St. Louis. Its mind-boggling that some of those in Jeff City can't grasp the benefits of this Hub.
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Missourah doesn’t want it because:
1. Paid special interests from low-income housing developers scared of losing tax credits donate to specific campaigns;
2. A select few politicians (see above) have stonewalled anything and everything coming their way involving the Trade Hub;
3. Advocates overly focused on passage of common sense legislation, not realizing the political ramifications; and
4. Boorish politics in an election year.
Not really cynical, just really, really pissed off...
I read earlier today that, nationally, only 85M Americans pay Federal taxes (side note: Happy Tax Day). That’s only 27% of the US population paying taxes. Right now, I’m anticipating a new political slogan of “I am the 27%”. But, before sliding off-topic, here are my questions:
1. What percent of Missouri’s state tax revenues are collected from the Saint Louis Metropolitan Statistical Area? (Of this amount, what are corporate taxes paid and individual taxes paid?)
Or, if STL seeks to invest in regional industrial infrastructure partially with State tax dollars, that comes out of what portion of State taxes generated?
2. What percent total of Missouri’s state tax revenues are generated from KC and STL?
3. Subtracting that, what percent is paid for by the rest of MO?
Or, how much more in State taxes does Urban MO pay over Rural MO?
4. What representative percent is paid by the constituency of objecting Senator Jason Crowell? (Constituency within all or part of Bollinger, Cape Girardeau, Madison, Mississippi, Perry, and Scott Counties)
5. What representative percent is paid by the constituency of objecting Senator Chuck Purgason? (Constituency within all or part of Camden, Howell, Laclede, Oregon, Shannon, Texas, and Wright Counties)
Then, seeing the data all set up in front of us, can we then see that the objectives of STL, home of 40%+ of MO’s GDP, and also the State’s largest contributor to State Revenues, should have a stronger say in economic development? And, would this be done despite the politically-motivated, biased, xenophobic, and/or bought influence from low income housing real estate developers, who combined reflect constituencies with State Revenues of, what, 2% tops? For all we know, they may even reflect losses in revenues…
Therefore: How much overwhelming majority in favor of the Trade Hub consists of actual MO taxpayers?
And: How much overwhelming majority in favor of the Trade Hub consists of elected representatives whose constituents are actual MO taxpayers?
Someone from the Post-Dispatch or other group with lots of researchers on hand: Get on this. Hard numbers could win a Pulitzer nomination...
1. Paid special interests from low-income housing developers scared of losing tax credits donate to specific campaigns;
2. A select few politicians (see above) have stonewalled anything and everything coming their way involving the Trade Hub;
3. Advocates overly focused on passage of common sense legislation, not realizing the political ramifications; and
4. Boorish politics in an election year.
Not really cynical, just really, really pissed off...
So here’s a question…newstl2020 wrote:^After which they will yell incoherent non-sense about how the state should and shouldn't spend "their" tax dollars despite the fact that about .00000000001% comes from whatever hill-billy-ass district they are there representing.
Followed by all of the St. Louis Representatives cowering in their seats for fear of saying anything that upsets the "important" delegates from out-state, once again failing to show any balls whatsoever while at the same time completely emasculating our city while allowing it to be held hostage to the wims of high school degree toting "economists" in the MO capital.
But, on the plus side... GUNS!
I read earlier today that, nationally, only 85M Americans pay Federal taxes (side note: Happy Tax Day). That’s only 27% of the US population paying taxes. Right now, I’m anticipating a new political slogan of “I am the 27%”. But, before sliding off-topic, here are my questions:
1. What percent of Missouri’s state tax revenues are collected from the Saint Louis Metropolitan Statistical Area? (Of this amount, what are corporate taxes paid and individual taxes paid?)
Or, if STL seeks to invest in regional industrial infrastructure partially with State tax dollars, that comes out of what portion of State taxes generated?
2. What percent total of Missouri’s state tax revenues are generated from KC and STL?
3. Subtracting that, what percent is paid for by the rest of MO?
Or, how much more in State taxes does Urban MO pay over Rural MO?
4. What representative percent is paid by the constituency of objecting Senator Jason Crowell? (Constituency within all or part of Bollinger, Cape Girardeau, Madison, Mississippi, Perry, and Scott Counties)
5. What representative percent is paid by the constituency of objecting Senator Chuck Purgason? (Constituency within all or part of Camden, Howell, Laclede, Oregon, Shannon, Texas, and Wright Counties)
Then, seeing the data all set up in front of us, can we then see that the objectives of STL, home of 40%+ of MO’s GDP, and also the State’s largest contributor to State Revenues, should have a stronger say in economic development? And, would this be done despite the politically-motivated, biased, xenophobic, and/or bought influence from low income housing real estate developers, who combined reflect constituencies with State Revenues of, what, 2% tops? For all we know, they may even reflect losses in revenues…
Therefore: How much overwhelming majority in favor of the Trade Hub consists of actual MO taxpayers?
And: How much overwhelming majority in favor of the Trade Hub consists of elected representatives whose constituents are actual MO taxpayers?
Someone from the Post-Dispatch or other group with lots of researchers on hand: Get on this. Hard numbers could win a Pulitzer nomination...
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^That's where I was going with my post, if anyone couldn't tell 
Minor note, you should adjust your 27% to reflect the effect on non-tax paying persons (ie children). When this is taken into account I believe just about ~50% of adults in America end up paying net taxes. So...we are the 50%!
As for the rest of your post, absolutely someone should get on this. It would take a little bit of man power for sure but would certainly paint a clear picture of the economics involved in the discussion.
I don't have numbers on hand, but I believe the StL metro is inching closer to being 50% of MO's total GDP. I would *guess* this corresponds very closely to the taxes paid as well, although it may be much higher due to the statistical concentration of wealth in major cities/urban areas.
In short, I don't think there is any way in hell that StL has anywhere even close to something representative of its collective power in Jeff City. It really is a joke.
COME ON PD! Help us out! Don't let us down! If nothing else, it will show MO where its priorities should be. Although this likely won't happen anyway as I have noticed a significant correlation between people that don't really contribute anything and their inability to comprehend and retain knowledge.
Minor note, you should adjust your 27% to reflect the effect on non-tax paying persons (ie children). When this is taken into account I believe just about ~50% of adults in America end up paying net taxes. So...we are the 50%!
As for the rest of your post, absolutely someone should get on this. It would take a little bit of man power for sure but would certainly paint a clear picture of the economics involved in the discussion.
I don't have numbers on hand, but I believe the StL metro is inching closer to being 50% of MO's total GDP. I would *guess* this corresponds very closely to the taxes paid as well, although it may be much higher due to the statistical concentration of wealth in major cities/urban areas.
In short, I don't think there is any way in hell that StL has anywhere even close to something representative of its collective power in Jeff City. It really is a joke.
COME ON PD! Help us out! Don't let us down! If nothing else, it will show MO where its priorities should be. Although this likely won't happen anyway as I have noticed a significant correlation between people that don't really contribute anything and their inability to comprehend and retain knowledge.
China Eastern is buying twenty (20) 777's from Boeing...
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f6878.html
Again, this looks very, viable to most. Come on Missouri
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f6878.html
Again, this looks very, viable to most. Come on Missouri
Denver revs up "airport city" idea.
St. Louis and Missouri are referenced.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/26532 ... rport-city
St. Louis and Missouri are referenced.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/26532 ... rport-city
Hate to say it but maybe it's time to change the thread name to something benign.
Seems like we're not 'poised' for anything.
Seems like we're not 'poised' for anything.
Wow. This is a joke, right? Is this a mirage? Unbelievable. And didn't an aviation expert based out of Colorado call St. Louis Aerotropolis "pie in the sky" and a waste of time and money. Check out the promotional ad (airportcitydenver.com). First Detroit now Denver. This is sickening, sad and ridiculous.matguy70 wrote:Denver revs up "airport city" idea.
St. Louis and Missouri are referenced.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/26532 ... rport-city
Three questions:
1. Where did local leaders drop the ball? I know state Congressional and local leaders were behind it, but did they not get key state representatives on board sooner?
2. Is information about these new initiatives from other cities (Detroit and Denver) being sent to key state leaders?
3. Where does the local effort stand now? I know it has secured a measly $3-million bucks, but are airport officials talking to cargo airliners.
My observations:
* Denver has enough new infrastructure projects (airport hotel, transit expansion, destinations etc.) to sell the idea to Colorado officials and potential cargo carriers. It has the land too. It doesn't have competing ideas from two different states. The downside with Denver is that it doesn't have the true central location, a major river port, six class A rail lines or interstate service that St. Louis does. St. Louis has a connector to the proposed NAFTA superhighway.
* St. Clair County, Illinois came up $500-million, but Missouri couldn't do a mere $65-million over eight years. There is no true regional effort. Now we see why Missouri and Southern Illinois are laggards. Others are now learning from the region's mistakes.
* So much bitterness still remains over Lambert's runway expansion and American Airlines' downsizing of St. Louis that the China Hub/Aerotropolis was easily viewed as another "white elephant". That mindset needs to be reversed with a public education campaign.
* Although they did a good job for the most part, there wasn't a public education campaign (tv and print ads) in St. Louis by the team charged with getting Aerotropolis St. Louis off the ground.
* The local media hasn't been as kind to St. Louis' efforts as it appears media outlets are demonstrating towards efforts in Detroit and Denver. The media in St. Louis (St. Louis Post-Dispatch business writers in particular) have been especially negative, in my opinion.
* St. Louis should form a regional effort touting BOTH airports. Building jobs in either state (OR both states) will benefit the entire region.
* Look for Kansas City to jump into the fray. While St. Louis looks over and up to Chicago for regional ideas and inspirations, K.C. looks over and up to Denver and Minneapolis. K.C. has the rail and central location, plus it sits directly on the proposed NAFTA superhighway.
* A St. Louis collaborative (politicians, businesses, educators etc.) needs to pressure key Missouri officials harder for support and economic incentives before international air cargo gets away from it. Encourage them to "remember" election time.
Tough to be optimistic with less than a week left in Missouri legislator with no tax credit in sight and the wishful/pie in the sky of someone floating $500 million in bonds on the other side of the river considering that Chicago is going to finance outright $62 million of a $200 million cargo facility.
http://enr.construction.com/yb/enr/arti ... =172608965
$200M O'Hare Cargo Facility Expected to Open Next Year
05/14/2012
Chicago Tribune
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By Kristen Mack, Chicago Tribune
May 14--A new $200 million cargo facility on former military land at O'Hare International Airport is expected to open next year.
Aeroterm, which was chosen as developer for the project in 2009 under then-Mayor Richard Daley, plans an 820,000-square-foot facility with an aircraft ramp that can accommodate planes including Boeing's 747-800 series.
The company will cover $130 million of the $200 million cost, with $62 million coming from airport funds. Daley acquired the onetime military land in 1996. The cargo facility will take up 65 acres.
http://enr.construction.com/yb/enr/arti ... =172608965
$200M O'Hare Cargo Facility Expected to Open Next Year
05/14/2012
Chicago Tribune
Text size: AA
By Kristen Mack, Chicago Tribune
May 14--A new $200 million cargo facility on former military land at O'Hare International Airport is expected to open next year.
Aeroterm, which was chosen as developer for the project in 2009 under then-Mayor Richard Daley, plans an 820,000-square-foot facility with an aircraft ramp that can accommodate planes including Boeing's 747-800 series.
The company will cover $130 million of the $200 million cost, with $62 million coming from airport funds. Daley acquired the onetime military land in 1996. The cargo facility will take up 65 acres.
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^Some towns/States just get the job done and have a vision. Not here!
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In Houston, Southwest Airlines is paying for a $100M expansion to handle international flights: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UUJKB00.htm
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Back in the saddle...
Kit Bond leading Trade Delegation to China with World Trade Center - STL
Source: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 0f31a.html
Now that we're done with the MO General Assembly meeting for the year, and the wingnut obstructionists of the past are largely term-limited out, we can catch back up to where we were a year ago...
Kit Bond leading Trade Delegation to China with World Trade Center - STL
Source: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 0f31a.html
Now that we're done with the MO General Assembly meeting for the year, and the wingnut obstructionists of the past are largely term-limited out, we can catch back up to where we were a year ago...